From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #247 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Thursday, 6 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: article Re: article Is she selling out? Re: jewel-digest V1 #246 Re: Is she selling out? My first T-shirt mock-up Tshirt Designs (5 total) Jewel Mag/CD Rom Jewel article in today Addicted To Noise Music News of the World a t-shirt design Selling Out and Frisbees my t-shirt cents Change of address Re: my t-shirt cents Frisbees and First show with Band Re: t-shirt Re: T-Shirts More T shirt stuff! appliances ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dean Date: Wed, 05 Jun 96 16:22:09 EST Subject: Re: article On Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:07:56 -0400 (EDT) you said: >Anybody read the article about Jewel? I saw it in my local newspaper. It's >mainly about the whole thing with the frisbee--nothing we don't already >know, but it did say that she was a neo-folkie. I have no idea what this >means so any help would be appreciated. > Doesn't neo mean new in some other language? I don't know. If it does, I guess this author is saying she's a new folk artist. Of course I still don't know what the hell (s)he means. :) >On another note, my new VCR decided it didn't want to tape the second half >of The Tonight Show last night so I'm also in a fairly bad mood. > Don't you hate it when your appliances thing they know more than you? I say you punish it by making it babysit with the clock radio. Geez! Sleep depravation makes me say stupid things. :) Dean Harris ------------------------------ From: Mike Connell Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 16:22:20 -0400 Subject: Re: article Will Chinda wrote: > On another note, my new VCR decided it didn't want to tape the second half > of The Tonight Show last night so I'm also in a fairly bad mood. You know, one of these days we MUST form a union to show these "mind of their own" VCRs just who is the boss here. Before you know it, they are gonna start telling us what tapes we can and cannot watch. D*mn things! Mike ------------------------------ From: Michael Andrew Carlson Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Is she selling out? I have been a Jewel fan for awhile now. I saw her last year, before all the hype. A couple of months ago, I saw her again in S.F. I am very disappointed. It seems that she is becoming what the modern public want her to be. I believe that unlike most one hit wonders that come out today, Jewel can never be liked by everyone...she has such a unique style that many can never like. What sucks is that it seems she is trying to become something that everyone will like. At her latest show she used a backup band, electrical guitars, and murdered some of her better songs by using the electrical guitar. WHAT IS THAT? I am woried. I love her music, but if she sells out like everyone else...that is not cool. Of course I want her to succeed, but I think I will miss the days when I could stand six feet from her in a club that holds a hundred. Mike ------------------------------ From: Lauren Wilshusen Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 16:51:27 -0700 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #246 > P.S. Anyone watch All My Children? Do you also see the Jewel/ Haley > resemblance? i don't really watch amc, but jewel look nothing lke haley, unless she's changed dramatically in the past few months... > > > End of jewel-digest V1 #246 > *************************** - -- "Holding my baby," said Kurt, "is the best drug in the world." ------------------------------ From: Jason Chung Szeto Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Is she selling out? Mike said: > unique style that many can never like. What sucks is that it seems she > is trying to become something that everyone will like. At her latest > show she used a backup band, electrical guitars, and murdered some of her > I love her music, but if she sells out like everyone else...that is not To me, Jewel using a backup band and electric guitars and such doesn't seem like a sell out Jewel has always been a very versitile singer, singing a wide range of styles. Playing solo on an acoustic limits this variety. For example, Race Car Driver and God's Gift are both songs that need a band to sound like how they were intended to.I personally enjoy seeing her expand into different generes of music. Though not all may work out, it is great to hear her express her musicality in different manners. Still, she is unlikely to abandon the style of play that has led to her success, the solo acoustic style. Think of her recent tour with a band as an experiment or a way to expand her musical ablility into new realms. jason. ------------------------------ From: Michael Szabo Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 19:43:11 -0400 Subject: My first T-shirt mock-up Here's my first rough-up for the jewel t-shirt... http://www.newreach.net/~cheezy/personal/jewel/wings1.jpg I kinda liked the idea of Jewel with wings... I don't think it's cheezy as much as it's CUTE... and in my opinion much of her music is cute too, so there. Anyhow.. remember that this is a very rough mock-up. I would take more care in rendering the wings in the background should people like the general idea of the design. Also.. I know I labeled the email address wrong - smoe.com instead of smoe.org... I was in a hurry :) I don't know if there would be any problem in using the jewel photo since there is most likely a copyright on it... It just seemed the most appropriate image for the concept. I'm looking forward to getting images of Jewel's drawings... I'm certain we can whip up some great designs from those. Ciao! Michael .-'| ___ : Michael Szabo / /.-' /'.--. .-;_. _.-'___ | Graduate Assistant, School of Architecture / ,. -<' / " |/ // | > /---/ : Kent State University /__/ \ \: ==// // / / / : Email: cheezy@newreach.net \ \---/--'--/'__/ : \_.>State University : WWW:http://www.newreach.net/~cheezy/personal ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 15:44:44 -0500 Subject: Tshirt Designs (5 total) http://www.auburn.edu/~juddjam/pics/tshirt/index.html Keep 'em coming. I was paid back in spades last night since my local NBC affiliate put the primary results up during the end of jewel's performance, and shrunk her down to a corner of the screen. That'll teach me to post political stuff on the list now won't it! ;) I know the boiling point of water too, can i sit next to jewel? I think jay appreciates her more now, even if he is as bad as a schooldaze bully making her yodel. I'm glad she got some satisfaction out of making him do it too. She looked pretty happy and well, i'm glad she's doing better. James ______________________________________________________________________ Auburn University Eng. Network Services Web/Lab Guy Computer Science Grad Student http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam ------------------------------ From: Silver Kat Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 19:51:20 +0000 Subject: Jewel Mag/CD Rom Hi there, Was in a bookstore tonight and saw a CD Rom type thing called something like - "The magazine you can hear" On the cover of the box was Jewel and on the back was a pic of Jewel, I assume, being interviewed... It said it was an interview of her... Sorry I don't have the title - just look out for the picture of her on the cover if you're browsing through magazines... Kim "And right there for a minute I knew you so well..." ------------------------------ From: Jeff_Smith@motorcity2.lotus.com Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:41:00 -0500 Subject: Jewel article in today Addicted To Noise Music News of the World Reprinted withour permission from Addicted to Noise Addicted To Noise Philadelphia correspondent Chris Nelson reports: The first thing Jewel Kilcher uttered into the microphone at the Mann Music Center on Friday (May31) was a gasping, "There's a lot of you, oh God! And only one of me!" The remark made a fitting epigram for Jewel's set during the Y100 Shindig. Having made the jump over the course of 15 months from coffee house singer to modern rock radio presence, she appears to be still adjusting to the larger venues her recent fame demands. The second annual Shindig was just the first of the half-dozen or so festival shows that will hit Philly this summer. Compared to the line-up at the city's other modern rock radio extravaganza (the WDRE Fest featuring the Toadies, Cracker, Filter, and Luna, and held just two days later), the Y100 roll book appeared almost geriatric. Its headliners included Lenny Kravitz, the Violent Femmes, and the BoDeans. Jewel took her place as ambassador of the newcomers, after performances by Dog's Eye View and Solution A.D. She begin her 40-minute set with the title song from her debut album, Pieces of You, and immediately clued the crowd in to her uneasiness by refusing to let the anti-prejudice song speak for itself. A few lines into the "faggot" verse, Jewel stopped to mock her summer shed setting and the current political climate with a fantasy in which stadium crowds waved lighters to rejoice at Bob Dole's death. The picture was somewhat cluttered, however, by apparent jibes at the Cranberries' Delores O'Riordan (said to be "too cool for body piercing") and Keanu Reeves (out to "prove he's not gay"). In the ten songs that followed, Jewel bandied an eclectic mix of musical styles, playing both by herself and with a three piece backing band. She bounced from the Dylanesque, to something that sounded like a show-tune rock number ("Race Car Driver"), over to a Etheridge-like chorus on "Foolish Games," before finally lighting on a yodeling number to close the show. Of all the material, Pieces of You's "Morning Song" worked most successfully. The band beefed up the song's slight country feel, and Jewel traded in the melancholy entreaty of the chorus for a triumphant declaration of having snared her man. The song emerged victorious, however, primarily because Jewel stepped back to let the material sink or swim on its own terms. The number stood as a rare moment when she abandoned her need to convince the audience that it was just little ol' Jewel up on that great big stage. Let's hope for more of those moments when Jewel tours behind her second album. Recording for her sophomore effort is slated to begin in July. ------------------------------ From: Truna@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:21:36 -0400 Subject: a t-shirt design how about we do this. there's a blue whisp that comes from the back to the front, where it forms into the shape of an angel. on the back we have the info and we are everyday angels ------------------------------ From: Sean Hooks Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 21:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Selling Out and Frisbees Date: 05-Jun-1996 09:16pm EST From: Hooks, Sean SHOOKS Dept: STUDENT Tel No: (201)-408-5581 TO: Remote INTERNET Address ( _IN%jewel@smoe.org ) Subject: Selling Out and Frisbees First of all, yes the frisbee incident is in an overall sense good, not because it gets Jewel exposure but because it might make her realize that large, unintimate shows at big venues like RFK are not for her. Like the person who wrote the selling out post, I want to be able to be six feet from her at a club surrounded by people who are, on the most part, there to see her, not just to see a big show or to see someone who they only know the hit song by. I am proud of Jewel for walking offstage in midsong, she shouldn't have to put up with that. I wouldn't want her to get a bitch rep ala Shannon Daugherty for instance because it gets her press(bad, contrary to popular belief, do you people WANT her to be a one hit wonder) and press of any kind is bad for the true fan. I know it's bad to wish that Jewel doesn't become rich and famous or maybe it's just not PC, but whenever I say it people yell at me for being selfish. Well, I'd just like her to take a Tracy Chapman-esque route. She has had to big radio hit singles(Fast Car and the new one-Give Me One Reason) but they were 9 years apart. I hope that WWSYS is Jewel's Fast Car, her Touch of Grey, not her You Oughta Know or her Nothing Compares To You. And it is also good that WWSYS will probably be forgotten by the time the new album comes out. And no, I don't think she's selling out. The WWSYS on Leno was extememly new sounding and very different from both the album and live band versions and the acoustic version-I like what Jewel did with it a lot, changing the way she sang the song, not the song itself. Just talking, and hoping I never have to see Jewel in a big stadium/arena. That would just really suck in my opinion. Later, Sean Hooks "Stay hard, stay hungry, stay alive...if you can And meet me in a dream of this hard land." - -Bruce Springsteen ------------------------------ From: Crunch Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 21:30:13 -0400 Subject: my t-shirt cents (i have now caught upo on my mail !) just thought i'd add my ideas to the t-shirt thread. i like the lime green. sure it hurts my eyes but i'll be wearing it not looking at it. and i don't really mind sticking out in a crowd. besides lime green and baby blue!) are supposed to be all the rage this year. sure this may be trendy, but without fashion we'd all look alike: boring. i like banded collars and sleeves alright, but they are best when paired with adidas-like stripes on the shoulders. and soccer shirts are the best! very comfy and look good on everyone. a logo on a soccer shirt must be kept simple though. i think a lime green soccer shirt would get me spending tooo much money, and isn't really right for a concert/fan shirt. the banded idea seems best to me. i implore everyone who is leaning towards a conservative approach: our shirt should not look like everyone elses, and it should look like it came from the nineties. please, put your flame throwers away. i'm just airing the other side. i'm sure that i will be more than happy with the end product. thank you Phillip Kelnhofer for getting us going !!!! love life truth crunch "never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever does." -margaret mead ------------------------------ From: mpenna@ix.netcom.com (Eric) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 19:04:28 -0700 Subject: Change of address My mail is all messed up on my current server, so if anyone has emailed me in the past two days, I didn't get it. If you want to reach me from now on, reach me at: VChesnutt@aol.com Thanx, Eric ------------------------------ From: Edward Hodgin Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: my t-shirt cents If you live anywhere like I do, ringers are about as common as regular conservative t-shirts. I think what will make this t-shirt stand out is the color and the logo, not ringers vs. conservatives. Make it look like a shirt from the nineties? Don't you realize these ringers are recycled from yesteryear? Not flame throwing; just throwing thoughts out in the open. ed ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Frisbees and First show with Band I'm thinking of bringing a frisbee to the show on June 14. Would that be like the guy who threw a shotgun shell onto the stage when Hole was playing. Or would that be too inappropriate? The first show wit hthe band was not May 4 in Ford Theater in LA, it was at Bimbo's on May 3. Just correcting something that's been bugging me. It could be a bit of that SF/LA rivalry. No sweat. Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us "You have a fire down in genius, subtlety And you slip through the fingers of ambiguity." "You can always detect the breaking of a voice Or you can always defect and walk away from the choice." ------------------------------ From: plus@seark.net (plus) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:04:32 -0500 Subject: Re: t-shirt > If we get enough interest, I don't see why we can't have two or >three different designs. i don't agree. i think that we should have one unique shirt to represent all of us. people might start making shirts on their own and claim they got it or something like that. i think we should have one uniform shirt. plus, it would be easier to identify with just one shirt everyone has instead of trying to find 3 different types of shirts. also to make it easier for the person who is taking charge of the t-shirt operation. the things we definitly need on the shirt are, 1. the title Everyday Angels 2. our site or mailing list thingy (all of the newsgroup t-shirts have their ng title on their shirts) 3. a catchy phrase (maybe something from a lyric or someone could make one up) 4. a picture we could have the everday angels across the back and the address below it. and another thing, if we do have green or blue, make sure it's not too dark so we can see the writing. on the other hand, if it is dark we could just make the letters white. now that's my 2 cents on the subject, plus ------------------------------ From: plus@seark.net (plus) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:04:41 -0500 Subject: Re: T-Shirts >Also, I don't think we would want to put the address Jewel@smoe.org on the >shirts. This is the address we all know because we're on the list. We >don't want people sending crazy ass messages to the list simply because >they "saw the address on a shirt". We could put the address used to sign up >to the list instead, which I think is jewel_request@smoe.org. I can't >remember since I've been on quite a while. no way, we do want the address on the shirt. that's to let people know what and who we are. people will see it and say "oh, they must be a jewel fan club on the net" which we are. plus it will get more people to join. but i don't see why we can't put the sign up thing either. we definitly do need the address though. or we could put the web site for everday angels. plus ------------------------------ From: dirk albrecht Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 21:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More T shirt stuff! Hi all, The T shirt ideas are great! I personally would like one of Jewel's doodles somewhere on the shirt. So, I thought I might scan the doodled napkin i have, in case anyone wanted one for a design. I think it's like the "standard" angel doodle, though mine has horns. Hmmm... Well, check it out if you want at: http://sdcc8.ucsd.edu/~dalbrech/jewelT.html He, heh, I wasn't sure what a "ringer" was but some guy just sat down across from me in the computer lab w/ a yellow shirt, white collar and armband, 3 white stripes on the shoulder...i think that's it... Anyway, I hope the deadline for designs isn't for a while, since I've been itching to do some drawing for a while now. These pesky finals are taking up all my time (though i'm procrastinating pretty well right now). later, dirk P.S. Thanks to all you angels out there... you know what for ------------------------------ From: Al Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 00:45:49 -0700 Subject: appliances Hello, Since some other people complained about their appliances, I thought I'd mention the problems I had with mine. Last week my fairly new VCR bit the dust. So, I accepted the fact that I would have to be content watching Jewel on Leno instead. Then, about 10 minutes before Leno came on, I came to the realization that the horizontal hold on my T.V. wasn't working. So, I ended up listening to Jewel while watching a bunch of squiggly lines. She sounded great though, so it wasn't a total loss. Allison "If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all" ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #247 ***************************