From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #241 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Tuesday, 4 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 241 Today's Subjects: ----------------- T-Shirt Offer by ??? Chopped Liver's Tshirt design top 10 reasons.... Re: The t-shirt thread top 10 reasons.... -Reply #9 (was Re: top 10 reasons....) Re: top 10 reasons.... -Reply Re: tour dates? T-shirt ideas Seattle Leaf Sign Up Cake LTD: Kiss Your Ass LTD: She Cries LTD: Studies in Love #12 LTD: Deep Water Jewel Imposter LTD: Sassy LTD: Sassy [none] T-Shirt points.... Re: T-shirt idea ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Nicholson Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: T-Shirt Offer by ??? Someone posted a while ago about offering to buy T-shrts from an upcoming concert. I asked this person to get the @^%! You, Im sensitivve one. i havent received any response. If *YOU* are this person, please respond to me, charles Nicholson. thanks! roland@mailhost1.csusm.edu Information doesnt want to be free. It wants to be expensive. ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 00:34:27 -0500 Subject: Chopped Liver's Tshirt design Here it is: http://www.auburn.edu/~juddjam/pics/tshirt1.gif If you'd like other designs posted just let me know. (no binhex please ;) In decent quantities you can get a Tshirt around here (including house artist's design) for $9, well a couple of years ago anyway. I'm sure with the talent on the list we know someone that can do a shirt and feel guilty if it turns out less that ideal ;) Besides repeat business, i found the only 100% sure motivator for the T-aritsts i've worked with is to know them personally. And since we don't have much repeat business..... Someone's gotta be in a club that gets Tshirts done semi-regularly out there. I say a free T to the person that takes charge- on me! This idea's gotta fly and be done well too. James _________________________________________________________________________ Auburn University Eng. Network Services Web/Lab Guy Computer Science Grad Student http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:05:30 -0500 Subject: top 10 reasons.... Paul "I miss the old HFS" Kim said: > Let's start some top ten lists of stuff. Waste more bandwidth. How about the top then things we would say to a greek who threw a frisbee at jewel from right behind us: 10) err, dunno, i'm just tossing an idea out here! Or more seriously, what single do you thing jewel should release next from POY? Foolish Games? (Not what is the best song- what would people like and radios play?) James _________________________________________________________________________ Auburn University Eng. Network Services Web/Lab Guy Computer Science Grad Student http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam ------------------------------ From: teffta@crypt.erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:12:42 -0400 Subject: Re: The t-shirt thread Ok, my 5 cents on the t-shirt thing: 1 - this "ringer" thing sounds too trendy. If Jewel is not anything, it's that. 2 - for colors, I like green, but I would never wear lime green (ever notice limes are not really lime green in color?). What would be great is white with big blue wrapped around, so that the shirt ends up about half blue and half white. A full big-blue motif (graduated blue, with stars) would be neat-looking but contribute significantly to the cost of the shirts. 3 - I doubt Jewel would have the time to make us a design but I hope someone asks her anyway ;-) 4 - Don't even think about buying them from any idiot who sends unsolicited email offering to make them, especially at $18 a pop! 5 - We'll never get anything designed by committee so everyone just pool your ideas and get some kind of a vote together. ------------------------------ From: Brian Mendonca Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 08:25:53 -0400 Subject: top 10 reasons.... -Reply I really hope she releases "Daddy" next. I really like "Foolish Games," but I think it may be too intense (some might say melodramatic) to receive much airplay. ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: #9 (was Re: top 10 reasons....) > How about the top then things we would say to a greek who threw a frisbee at > jewel from right behind us: > > 10) err, dunno, i'm just tossing an idea out here! This is a horrible horrible pun. I love it. > 9) Hey man, nice shot. > > Or more seriously, what single do you thing jewel should release next from > POY? Foolish Games? (Not what is the best song- what would people like and > radios play?) > I so rarely listen to the album(true)...which is autographed (gloat gloat) but looking now, I think Morning Song is a natural. It's *great* live, plays up the sexual side that they seem to be using, good length (3:35), possible education (Nin and Miller--didn't we get that question here?), and it's a good song, too. (Did I mention that?) Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us "You have a fire down in genius, subtlety And you slip through the fingers of ambiguity." "You can always detect the breaking of a voice Or you can always defect and walk away from the choice." *****Please hold your flames. It's a joke. ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Tue, 04 Jun 96 08:43:58 EST Subject: Re: top 10 reasons.... -Reply On Tue, 04 Jun 1996 08:25:53 -0400 you said: >I really hope she releases "Daddy" next. I really like "Foolish >Games," but I think it may be too intense (some might say >melodramatic) to receive much airplay. > I'd like to see "Daddy" as well, but I think it might not be very Radio Friendly. Especially since her first two releases were top 40 kind of stuff. "Amen" would be a good one to showcase her voice. I still get chills when she moves up (or is it down) the octave scale on this song. Of course I'd be happy with any of them being released. Heck, Atlantic could release some of the old ones of Innerchange Days or Rare Angels. Why not? Dean Harris ------------------------------ From: James McGarry Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: tour dates? On Mon, 3 Jun 1996 Simbop@aol.com wrote: > Could someone people send me some of Jewel's tour dates? My computer stalls > every time i try to get on a web page. I think the last update of we received only covered up to June 2 (Dallas). So post 'em, if ya got 'em ;-) James. Aaron's page gave the most up-to-date tour info: http://www.nebula.net/~lazlo/jewel/tour.html which Hiranya had previously posted to the list on April 14... ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Tue, 04 Jun 96 09:13:36 EST Subject: T-shirt ideas We've seen some good ideas, but the most obvious seems to be left out. I'd like to see a picture of Jewel on the shirt. God knows there's plenty to choose from out there. Would this be some sort of copyright violation? Of course if it is, putting lyrics on the shirt probably is too. Dean Harris ------------------------------ From: "Ken Winchenbach" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:42:32 +0000 Subject: Seattle Leaf Sign Up This is the first (and possibly only) announcement for leaf sign-ups on the Seattle tape tree. Being a leaf entails contacting your branch (who will be named later), and either trading them for the Seattle tape, or sending them a blank and return postage. If you are interested in getting this tape, and are not yet a branch, then please read on and follow the sign up instructions. The Tape: It is a complete (well, almost complete) show from the Puss Puss Cafe in Seattle. The date was May 3rd 1995. It's a solo show. The show is fairly good quality for an audience recording. It's marred slightly by the noise of the espresso machine, but that's good for a few laughs. It has quite a few of the non-album songs we've come to love, including a lot of the Rare Angels songs, and a few Innerchange Days songs. And of course, it has stories! Unfortunately the last three songs of the show were lost in an unfortunate accident with a canoe. We don't have those on tape, but instead I substituted versions of those songs from other concerts. The songs are: Comfortably Numb, Deep Water and Chime Bells. So the versions on this tape are not actually from the show, but at least you'll get the idea. I've also included as filler Jewel's new song Carnivore from her first show with the band. I thought everyone who's missing the tour would like to hear her new sound, and hear a new song before the album comes out! Here's the info on the tape. It consists of one 90-minute tape. Puss Puss Cafe, Seattle WA 5/03/95 Side A Side B - -Walk Away -Angel Needs A Ride - -Little Sister -Race Car Driver -Who Will Save Your Soul -God's Gift To Women - -Sometimes It Be That Way -Down At The Bridge - -She Cries -Angel Standing By - -Morning Song -Near You Always - -Cold Song -Tiny Love Spaces - -Pieces Of You -Comfortably Numb* - -I'm Sensitive -Deep Water* -Chime Bells* Filler: Carnivore The Size: Because of my upcoming committments, I am only able to administer a tree of a certain size. I have ten branches and I have asked them each to make ten copies. That's only 110 people in the tree, which was the size of the Innerchange tree, back before this phenomenal growth of the list. So demand is sure to outrun supply on this tree. My hope is that after these 110 people receive their tape, they will then turn around and take care of the rest of the needy. Either through private trades, adopt-a-newbie deals, or a second tier to the tree. The Deadheads regularly run trees with multiple layers. I prefer not to, because of the loss of sound quality. However, in this case it might not be a bad idea because I could only support a limited amount of branches. Anyway, I leave it up to the rest of you to figure out how to assure that everybody can get a copy. How To Sign Up: Okay, here's the info. Please follow these instructions exactly. The first one hundred who sign-up correctly will be part of the tree. I'm sorry to say that the rest will be on their own. Please don't jam the list up with requests for the tape. Privately email some members of the tree once it gets going, or suggest a method to everybody for more tapes to be spread. To sign up, please send me the following information. Send it in an email message with the subject heading Seattle Leaf. If that is not the subject, you won't be signed up. If the info is not complete, you won't be signed up. I'm not trying to be the Tape Nazi, it's just that my filtering software won't work unless things work this way, and I don't feel like wading through hundreds of messages. 1. Name 2. E-mail address 3. State or Country That's it. Send me that info, and I will send you back a message as soon as I can telling you whether you're on the tree or not. Please don't send more than one sign up. Once I create the tree structure, I will post it on the list and you can find out who your branch is. that's all for now... ---------K e n---------- <> walden@nh.ultranet.com http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~wink/ "You must live as you think, or sooner or later you will think as you live." ------------------------------ From: Truthseecr@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:23:43 -0400 Subject: Cake The other day I saw this underground type of magazine that had a picture of a woman who looked an awful lot like Jewel on the cover, but there was no mention of her or an article. I did manage to find in the credits that the model on the cover was indeed Jewel. So is Jewel on to a modeling career now? "Jewel, the super model." ;-D Just kidding. It's a cool cover with candy raining down Jewel. Peace, Carolyn ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 02:27:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: LTD: Kiss Your Ass Kiss Your Ass by Jewel Kilcher What time should i pick you up tonight to make me seem more selectable What kind of flowers should i bring your mother to make me seem more delectable I got no problem with family events I like lemonade, camping, kids, and tents I'll do anything you ask no matter the task My whole purpose on earth is just to Kiss your ass What kind of drugs should I take tonight to make me seem like I'm introverted What kind of porn mags should I bring your brother to make me seem like I'm still perverted I got no problem with family events I like lemonade, camping, kids, and tents I'll do anything you ask no matter the task My whole purpose on earth is just to Kiss your ass Teach me something I don't know But I swear I'll be something someday I strain my ears listnin too hard to what you say How then ?? time should I cruise your block on my tiny red tricycle Screaming your name sweet heart in vain This ?? ?? has got me in a pickle I got no problem with family events I like lemonade, camping, kids, and tents I'll do anything you ask no matter the task ????? You'll be promiscuous And I'll be ?? cuz my whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth is just to kiss your ass ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 02:27:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: LTD: She Cries She Cries by Jewel Kilcher Time passes quickly for our lady of the hour She brushes her long blonde hair >From her face only to find a tear But she don't know why she's been crying She looks inside herself To maybe find an answer But she's willingly distracted By the man who like's her glitter She says, "Fool, I ain't gold." She don't even know she cries Cuz she's so tangled up in lies In her head she plays a game Pretending that she's not the same Lady who is cheating on her husband With a man she hardly even knows She says, "Ignorance is bliss." But when he asks her name She must fumble for an answer She's been called so many But now she can't remember So she just makes up another And she don't even know she cries Cuz she's so tangled up in lies Now the dirty deed is done She heads into the bathroom She washes her hands in the sink And thinks it could clean her conscience If only she could find one And slowly she turns and heads For the door as if this were all a dream She has seen her sweet husband's face But only like a fleeting glimse Of all those bridges she's been burning All those bridges she's been burning And she don't even know she cries It should come as no surprise Cuz she's so tangled up in lies ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 02:26:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: LTD: Studies in Love #12 Studies in Love #12 by Jewel Kilcher The doorway frames You a perfect picture silouette Blue sky of regret Enough to hang out Your legs seemed to tremble At least I imagine that they do Then again, it's probly easy For you Please don't open your mouth my dear I can read all the signs I can take it from here There's no need to explain It's perfectly clear The yellow wall paper peels A strange halo around your head It's funny how you notice these Stupid things instead You say something awkward But I wish that you wouldn't A whole life of you wish you could's But just couldn'ts Please don't open your mouth my dear I can read all the signs I can take it from here There's no need to explain It's perfectly clear I try not to fight too much It only just makes me mad Spent half my life loving you Think of all the love that I could have had Five years of kisses Packed in my bags And this tiny moment fits All the big things we ever had I can't quite pinpoint When it left or what for Love always steps lightly Away from the door Please don't open your mouth my dear I can read all the signs Hell I've known you for years There's no need to explain No there's no need to explain There's no need to explain It's perfectly clear ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 02:26:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: LTD: Deep Water Deep Water by Jewel Kilcher When you find yourself falling down Your hope's in the sky But your heart like grape gum on the ground And you try to scrape yourself up But you keep seeping out like cheap gin through a broken cup And you try to find yourself And the abstractions of religion and the cruelties of everyone else And when you're standing in deep water And you're bailing yourself out with a straw And when you're drowning in deep water And you wake up making love to a wall Well it's these little times That help to remind It's nothing without Love Love, Love It's nothing without Love It's nothing without Love And you realize your only friend has never been yourself Or anyone who cared in the end And you try and you see yourself leaking out And the only one who liked you is yourself anyway That's when suddenly everything fades or falls away Cuz the chains which once held us are only the chains which we've made Sacrificed our pride Sacrificed our health We must demand more Not eachother But more from ourselves Cuz when you're standing in deep water And you're bailing yourself out with a straw And when you're drowning in deep water And you wake up making love to a wall Well it's these little times That help to remind It's nothing without Love Love, Love It's nothing without Love It's nothing without Love ------------------------------ From: Truthseecr@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:24:24 -0400 Subject: Jewel Imposter For those of you on America Online who read the Jewel message board, it seems that there is an imposter pretending to be Jewel. Jewel's actual screen name is JewelJK, or at least the record company set it up for her. The imposter is using a capital i for the L in Jewel, so it looks legit, but isn't. I think it's a very sneaky, dishonest, and overall sh%$y thing to do. So don't be fooled by this idiot. Peace, Carolyn ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 02:26:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: LTD: Sassy Sassy by Jewel Kilcher See Sassy wake up she's in love Can't you tell by the ring on her finger Can't you tell by her fifty dollar shoes That she confuses love with the people she uses But don't worry about nothing, no worry at all It's just a temporary conjunction Even Spring's got to fall See Sassy wake up a little girl She looks, so thin and so fragile, so weak Papa sad that she's too cute for words So Sassy never learned how to scream But don't worry about nothing, no worry at all It's just a temporary conjunction Even Spring's got to fall Hush you baby don't you cry Poppa's gonna buy you some pudding pie Hush you baby don't distress Poppa's gonna buy you a real nice dress As though that could mend your heart As though it could keep you from being torn apart As though it were your destiny To face every man you meet On your knees See Sassy wake up on the other side She stares at her wedding dress and starts to cry She's got big eyes but they don't see too clear She says My God how did I end up here But don't worry about nothing, no worry at all It's just a temporary conjunction Even Spring's got to fall See Sassy wake up she's in love See Sassy wake up she's in love ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 02:26:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: LTD: Sassy Kiss Your Ass by Jewel Kilcher What time should i pick you up tonight to make me seem more selectable What kind of flowers should i bring your mother to make me seem more delectable I got no problem with family events I like lemonade, camping, kids, and tents I'll do anything you ask no matter the task My whole purpose on earth is just to Kiss your ass What kind of drugs should I take tonight to make me seem like I'm introverted What kind of porn mags should I bring your brother to make me seem like I'm still perverted I got no problem with family events I like lemonade, camping, kids, and tents I'll do anything you ask no matter the task My whole purpose on earth is just to Kiss your ass Teach me something I don't know But I swear I'll be something someday I strain my ears listnin too hard to what you say How then ?? time should I cruise your block on my tiny red tricycle Screaming your name sweet heart in vain This ?? ?? has got me in a pickle I got no problem with family events I like lemonade, camping, kids, and tents I'll do anything you ask no matter the task ????? You'll be promiscuous And I'll be ?? cuz my whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth My whole purpose on earth is just to kiss your ass ------------------------------ From: Laura Capello Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:24:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [none] hey peoples.... for the tee shirt idea, i think very cool... but leave off the emails and names of the people on the list...ringers are cool.. and i agree with ed that we should try to get jewel's input, or at least acceptance, of the idea... color doesnt really matter to me, as long as it's not black or white and we should at least try to put it to a vote... or, if anyone wants to take the inshitive (?) to make a shirt, let it be known.. hell, we may have more than one shirt floating around the list... as for jewel's incident with the frisbee, it happens to everyone. and i dont blame her for leaving the stage either... too damn disrespectful... and if those guys didnt really mean to hit her, then why the hell would the throw thier frisbee to the stage.... TO GET ATTENTION MAYBE? that's about it... for those of you who are looking to get boots (many of you, i know), i have "rare angels" and "innerchange", as well as a boot from new york on the way (i hope at least)... simply email me and i'll give you my addy so you can get them... take care fellow angels... duff's having problems getting back on the digest and she misses you all... later, capello ------------------------------ From: Michael Szabo Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 12:18:00 -0400 Subject: T-Shirt points.... I'm excited about the t-shirt idea! Whatever the type, color, or design... I'm particularly interested in whipping up some designs for the shirts, so we should really decided on a deadline to have submissions in by. (Is 2 weeks enough time for most people?) Also, are we able to integrate photographic color images into the t-shirts? Someone needs to check on what the printers limitations and requirements are... (I could call today and find out, but perhaps someone else among us has already done t-shirt printing before) For example, can they take a single color image and that's it, or do they need a four-color separation (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, and Black - a typical printing proceedure). Regarding the type of shirt we choose.. I think it requires a popular vote as do most others here, but must we have only ONE type of shirt? Is it possible for us to pick our prefered type of shirt out of, say, two choices? Would it cost that much more to have two different style t-shirts printed (even if they used the same graphics)? Ciao! Michael .-'| ___ : Michael Szabo / /.-' /'.--. .-;_. _.-'___ | Graduate Assistant, School of Architecture / ,. -<' / " |/ // | > /---/ : Kent State University /__/ \ \: ==// // / / / : Email: cheezy@newreach.net \ \---/--'--/'__/ : \_.>State University : WWW:http://www.newreach.net/~cheezy/personal ------------------------------ From: Charles Nicholson Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: T-shirt idea of course, thje other obvious choice is to stay with the ANGEL motif and do some sort of picture of jewel sprouting angel wings. Jewel's face would be looking up toward the sky, head titled at abut 20 deg, and with a slight smirky smile on her face as she does so cutely. Of course, we COULD have a subtitle, like Another Everyday Angel Just anther Everyday Angel Need a ride? etc... I could think up a lot more if this concept takes off. > We've seen some good ideas, but the most obvious seems to be left out. > I'd like to see a picture of Jewel on the shirt. > > Dean Harris > ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #241 ***************************