From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #220 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Saturday, 25 May 1996 Volume 01 : Number 220 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Happy Birthday pics Re: New York Times review free tix for Miami Beach show Sunday 5/26 Mall ads/Rugburns/SOL+PBFGAB etc. Re: Sean Penn Re: Mall ads/Rugburns/SOL+PBFGAB etc. Jewel in Rolling Stone wwsys video evolution of artists... and RS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: snaficy@ucla.edu (siamak naficy) Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:03:08 -0800 Subject: Happy Birthday Happy Birthday to Jewel!!!!!--And anyone else (including myself, May 25th) who has their birthdays around this time. For that matter, happy un-birthdays to all the rest of you! Waiting With Bated Breath, Siamak "How many Angels Can Dance On The Head Of A Pin?...It Depends On The Tune"--J. O'Bar? ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 00:21:47 -0500 Subject: pics How large exactly is this zipfile? I hope it doesn't overload any inboxes. Admin types might not like you filling up their disk space with hugh mails, and people might be removed from this list by their administrators. It's a nice thought though, and anyone that wants to is welcome to go for it. Don't let me stop you. Just a concern, James _________________________________________________________________________ Auburn University Eng. Network Services Web/Lab Guy Computer Science Grad Student http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam >IF YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES THAT YOU DO NOT SEE IN THIS ZIP, CAN YOU SEND ME A >COPY. ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: New York Times review On Wed, 22 May 1996, Tom Proven wrote: > I agrree that it's very hard to classify Jewel. Professional weasels > love to peg someone as a certain thing. And then they rarely let them > out of the initial classification. Just like typecasting in the movies. Yo tambien! Me too! I concur in spades. > Do you think we'll ever see Jim Carrey in a dramatic role (which he did > very well in Doing Time on Maple Drive, and a couple smaller roles)? Gorsh, I remember seeing that movie (or at least the first half hour or so) > I love the fact that Jewel can do so many different styles; it's one of the > things that I keep coming back to. Normally I tire of artists after a > cer\tain amount of time. They seem to repeat themselves. They do it > well, but it's just not new anymore (not to piss anyone of but Troi kinda > seems that way to me, for example.) No! Not counselor Troi! Blasphemer! She's oh so new and innovative, changing her costume every couple seasons and stuff. Hee hee. > Jewel constantly puts out something > different. Listen to PoY and Adrian and then compare it to Carnivore, or > even A Very Big Girl. Such a wide range of talent. > Evolution is very important in lasting, but weasels need a single > identifier for the rest of her career. Will she be the yodeller? Will > she be the girl from Alaska (now how many times have you heard that bit? > ad nauseum) Yes, the playing up of her childhood spent in Alaska is bugging me. Every time she talks about it in interviews or on stage and stuff, it makes me wonder if she is annoyed about having to talk about it but telling where she has lived her whole life would be a long story. Kinda like when someone asks me where I'm from and I say "I go to Amherst College in Amherst, MA, but I'm from Aberdeen MD which is 45 min NE of Baltimore on I 95, nowhere near Washington DC." It just takes too long to say it. One of them "to make a long story short" things. But I can't help thinking that she is self-conscious of what she is saying when she tells people that she's from Alaska and doesn't say where she was born or where she went to school or where she lives and stuff. She's just thinking "yeah, you just keep thinking that I'm some backward Alaskan, you putz. Now let me touch your nose." A good example is Mike and Maty. Remember when she was on the show and Mike asked "Is that jacket from your homeland?" GGrrrrr. And Jewel said "no its from Arizona." I just wanted to punch him. And it seemed like Jewel was thinking throughout the rest of the interview "these two people are blorks." Then again, there is the comment she made at the very beginning of her show in Northampton in January. It was snowing outside and she said "It's snowing. I didn't come all the way from Alaska to have it snow." I realize she said it to be funny, but I was thinking "hey! you didn't come from Alaska, you're on tour! And anyways, you live in San Diego now" > [scat-singing to end] WWSYS performed live was cool, made me like the song more than my drooping interests had allowed me to. That was a convoluted sentence. And the scatting (is the study of scat, scatology? Are there scatalogists? is this scatalogical humor?) is cool. Paul "only a tongue can tell" Kim ------------------------------ From: doog@amber.ssd.hcsc.com (Doug Scofield) Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: free tix for Miami Beach show Sunday 5/26 howdy, i've got three extra tix for jewel's miami beach show sunday may 26th @ club 245, address is 245 22nd St, doors open at 9. i had planned on purchasing two but when i found out they were just $1.03, i decided to splurge :-) unfortunately the friends i was hoping to turn into converts just didn't see the light. if you're in the area (i live in boca, work in ft lauderdale) we can make arrangements. i'm planning on giving them away at the door if there's no takers. doog - -- doug scofield doog@mangonet.com boca raton, florida also doog@mail.hcsc.com every day we starve while we eat white bread and beer instead of a handshake or hug -- jewel ------------------------------ From: bs0017@epfl2.epflbalto.org Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 08:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Mall ads/Rugburns/SOL+PBFGAB etc. Please excuse a temporary change from my normal lurking status but a couple questions/observations came up: 1. A shopping trip to Potomac Mills Mall in Northern Virginia provided a Jewel related surprise. The mall plays constant ads over numerous monitors which yesterday included heavy, heavy rotation of a spot promoting POY 'on sale' at a local mall record store. In the time I was there, this clip including parts of the video for YWMFM played at least twenty times. 2. While we have heard a (very) little about Steve Poltz of the Rugburns in the 'Gay' discussions I have not heard about the extent of Jewel's participation on his record. I understand (from interview as part of the Radio Angels tape) that they co-wrote a duet for 'Taking the World by Donkey'. I notice the last track on this CD is 'Morning Song'. Does anyone know if this is a cover of 'our' Morning Song (my favorite track on POY) and is there Jewel participation in the Rugburns CD? 3. I became aware of Jewel through a copy of 'Save the Linoleum' salvaged from a local used CD store junk bin (you might be surprised what turns up in the $1.99 - $6.99 range). The other Jewel 'special' is Phyllis Barnabee Finally Gets a Bra. Can someone comment on why either of these titles were selected? 4. Atlantic seems good at providing collectable promos and commercial maxi singles for Tori. Is it perhaps time to push Atlantic to issue Jewel singles with B-sides of note? I would think the recent interest in Chime Bells alone would make its inclusion worthwhile. I have never understood why the labels cannot put out demanded material in limited numbers that would blow the 'bootleg' operations out of the water. The obvious best case to me would be a full CD 'prequel' of songs (live or outakes) not on POY but not destined for the new album. Since Jewel is not exactly short on material it would seem the issue of a low production cost (no studio time - no fancy production or promotions) disc would sell to a few thousand of us. Doug Smith ------------------------------ From: Damon A Schmidt Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 08:30:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Sean Penn Who? The Press starting wild rumors just because two people happen to be friends? I've never heard of that happening before. You must be losing your mind... Now before I get six hundred responses explaining that that post was a joke, this is, too... I've been griping about the Sean Penn thing for about eight months now. I was jumping up and down screaming "YES!!!" when I saw that Sean and Robin were getting hitche. Damond ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Fri, 24 May 96 09:21:45 EST Subject: Re: Mall ads/Rugburns/SOL+PBFGAB etc. On Fri, 24 May 1996 08:49:23 -0400 (EDT) you said: >Please excuse a temporary change from my normal >lurking status but a couple questions/observations >came up: > Well, here's my answers to your questions and response to your observations. :) >1. A shopping trip to Potomac Mills Mall in >Northern Virginia provided a Jewel related >surprise. The mall plays constant ads over >numerous monitors which yesterday included heavy, >heavy rotation of a spot promoting POY 'on sale' at >a local mall record store. In the time I was >there, this clip including parts of the video for >YWMFM played at least twenty times. > Cool! The Angel is becoming very big indeed. >2. While we have heard a (very) little about Steve >Poltz of the Rugburns in the 'Gay' discussions I >have not heard about the extent of Jewel's >participation on his record. I understand (from >interview as part of the Radio Angels tape) that >they co-wrote a duet for 'Taking the World by >Donkey'. I notice the last track on this CD is >'Morning Song'. Does anyone know if this is a >cover of 'our' Morning Song (my favorite track on >POY) and is there Jewel participation in the >Rugburns CD? > Yep. They co-wrote their duet "Old Lover's House". As far as I know this one song is the extent of her participation on the album. However, they sing several duets together on the Innerchange Days tapes. One of my favorites being "Silver Lining", thought I don't know why. :) RB's "Morning Song" is not the same as Jewel's. >3. I became aware of Jewel through a copy of 'Save >the Linoleum' salvaged from a local used CD store >junk bin (you might be surprised what turns up in >the $1.99 - $6.99 range). The other Jewel >'special' is Phyllis Barnabee Finally Gets a Bra. >Can someone comment on why either of these titles >were selected? > You make me jealous. I've been searching over hill and dale for the STL cd. I don't think it made it this far east... at least not around Cincinnati. Oh well, maybe some day. I've wondered about the names of these promos too. Can't come up with any explaination, except Jewel has a peculiar sense of humor... which I just love. >4. Atlantic seems good at providing collectable >promos and commercial maxi singles for Tori. Is it >perhaps time to push Atlantic to issue Jewel >singles with B-sides of note? I would think the >recent interest in Chime Bells alone would make its >inclusion worthwhile. I have never understood why >the labels cannot put out demanded material in >limited numbers that would blow the 'bootleg' >operations out of the water. The obvious best case >to me would be a full CD 'prequel' of songs (live >or outakes) not on POY but not destined for the new >album. Since Jewel is not exactly short on >material it would seem the issue of a low >production cost (no studio time - no fancy >production or promotions) disc would sell to a few >thousand of us. > >Doug Smith Good question. Why don't they? It seems that the record labels don't start releasing the live stuff until an artist becomes BIG. Then it's usually their hits in a live version. They still tend to leave off the more obscure stuff. Record companies don't seem to understand that some musical artists are BETTER live rather than in a studio. Sometimes all that mixing, editing and sampling can nearly ruin a song. Oh well, maybe someday they'll learn what we fans really want. Dean ------------------------------ From: Gregory Donavon Ooley Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:40:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jewel in Rolling Stone I was in a hurry so couldn't read the article, but I did have a chance to flip to the beautiful 2-page photo of Jewel in the new Rolling Stone. Call me male, but she is a knockout! Happy Stay - -Greg ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 17:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: wwsys video This has been nagging at my mind for quite a while, but I finally figured out what the weird problem is. Ok, I have this video tape put out by Gavin reports (one of the several influential music report companies) of videos from "hot" artists from last year (I think it was released in the summer or the fall; the campus radio station had it and I took it. Not illegally, mind you). So, it has WWSYS on it. Ok. When I saw WWSYS for the first time on MTV in its entirety (when Jewel was hosting Alt nation), something kept bugging me. Finally, today, I watched both versions (I taped Alt Nation as any good Jewel fanatic with cable access did) and kept stopping, starting, and comparing (its pretty tough doing this with only one tv and vcr) but I finally realized that these are two different versions of the same video. The differences are not huge. I mean its not like in one she's singing in the restroom and in the other she's running around in a beesuit. There are just a few different shot selections, especially towards the end, where one might have a closeup of Jewel's face and the other might have a longshot. The big tipoff that unsettled me in the beginnning was the absence of the "Jewel sitting down on the tiles" shot in the Gavin video that is captured on one of the Web pages. That was useless, wasn't it? Is it true that MTV (or as some put it, eMpTV) plays WWSYS every ten minutes like my hyperbolic brother says? And is it just me, or does it seem like the turnaround rate for these messages is getting longer and longer? And how come we suddenly get like a hundred messages a day? Is everyone that bored? And for you guys who went to the Paradise show, please send me a message so that I can get your email addresses. I have a bad memory. Matt Heinlein, I sent you a message but I got it returned for some unknown reason. I hope yer not out of school cause I just sent my blank for Radio Angels to ya. So if you read this, please respond and tell me that you exist, ok? Paul "the last of the famous international playboys" Kim ------------------------------ From: ALalas@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 16:41:21 -0400 Subject: evolution of artists... and RS sean wrote: >Look at groups like U2 and REM whose new albums pale in >comparison to their old ones and their live efforts have suffered >as well as in their attempt for alternativism and change they are >refusing to play older songs from their repetoire. Well shawn with REM's new album "Monster" i completely agree that it's not nearly as good as some older stuff "Green" for example. That's my personal opinion. I also hated some of their older stuff Shining happy people for example is one of the most over-rated songs of all time in my opinion. And then with U2 i must say that their middle works continue to be my favorites. Boy is Very rough as is October. It's called evolving. I also don't care much for Zooropa. It's personal preference. I'd be completely happy if the could continue to produce 5 more Achtung Babys or Joshua Trees. Those albums are so great i'd never get tired of them. Anyway it's a matter of preference. Some people think their changes are for the better, some think for the worse... Jack wrote about U2 and REM's latest albums... >they certainly don't "pale in comparison" to earlier efforts...) Certainly not but they are different... Angela wrote about rolling stone: >i didn't like the fact that she was wearing a bra top. we all > know she is beautiful. does she need to undress to gain more attention? why > did she agree to pose in that outfit? You make it sound like you know she was forced to wear it. Some people like to show off their bodies. Ever been to the beach, or the gym. Some people like attention, and some people are asked by their producers to pose in a more sexy outfit to get more attention. I don't know which one of those things prompted jewel to do this. Needless to say the fact that she did just have the bra top (haven't seen the picture myself) probably will gain her more attention whether you like that fact of not. It's not for us to tell her how to dress, or if she's allowed to become more popular or not for that matter. Brett responded to that with: >Amazing how things happen that way huh... It'd be neat if i knew what things he was talking about and it what way they happened... Jake ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #220 ***************************