From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #200 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Thursday, 16 May 1996 Volume 01 : Number 200 Today's Subjects: ----------------- blah blah blah Without the Parentheses LTD: Life's a Great Big Mystery Show Re: Without the Parentheses LTD: Train Song (Pale Shade of Grey) LTD: The Circle Song review of May 12 show (finally) re: girlfriends and stuff... Re: jewel-digest V1 #198 Re: Jewel in Cleveland... Of Interest to NYers Only Re: LTD: Train Song (Pale Shade of Grey) House of the Rising Sun Re: Songs Jewel shouldn't cover ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gregdunn@indy.net (Greg Dunn) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:06:35 -0500 Subject: blah blah blah Just a brief blurb: I've finally gotten off my lazy bohunkus and finished my first WWW homepage. It was free (the flip side is: it's on AOL :) so I decided to just go ahead and do it. ObList: I have links to some Ecto and Jewel resources, to spread the good word. Plus pics of me, my wife and daughter for the morbidly curious. Comments and criticisms are solicited; it's by no means finished yet. http://members.aol.com/gregdunn/ Peace and music! - -- | Greg Dunn | "Information is not knowledge; | | GregDunn@aol.com | knowledge is not wisdom; | | gregdunn@indy.net | wisdom is not truth." | | Greg@gdunn.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil | -- Frank Zappa | ------------------------------ From: reach@fishnet.net (James Reach) Date: Wed, 15 May 96 20:52:59 PDT Subject: Without the Parentheses Did I read on this list that Jewel performed a new song, something like "Without the Parentheses" in Toronto? Now I also here she performed "Boy Needs a Bike." Does that mean she performed two new songs? James Reach ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: LTD: Life's a Great Big Mystery Show As requested... Life's a Great Big Mystery Show by Jewel Kilcher Went downtown just to be a martyr but a telephone pole beat me to it it was covered in barbed wire Saw a little boy's white teeth like wild horses encaged by an iron string Oh god...does not feel good unless he bleeds And daily crucifictions are hung up on street signs they use all sorts of names hope they never use mine these consonants and vowels that cannot scream nor howl only just hang around Oh god...how'd things get so turned around and in the office building 9 to 5 goes on trial the man is startin to crack but the ceiling stones smile and the boss comes in to see what fragile things his dull and pointless tongue can tear Oh god...he combed over a baldspot with a bit of hair Cause everybody needs somebody else to blame they can't curse themselves they take their doctor's name in vain they'd rather jump through hoops and theraputic groups than in their own minds delve oh god...why don't we believe in ourselves Sometimes I think Life is just a movie and these strangers are folks we really know sit back relax enjoy some popcorn Life's a great big mystery show Saw tiny faces that are tattered and torn but there's paint upon the mansion that is hardly worn I'd like to go inside but why I don't know as though I could peel the paint and feed it to the poor oh god...can't live like this anymore my landlord..no... my neighbor is as tolerant as a feeding shark but they tell me that her bite is much better than her bark she goes ramblin on from dusk until dawn sayin I should try bein' like her sometime oh god...think somethin's died inside her mind cause sometimes... Life's a great big mystery show - ---------------*---------------------- [scat-singing to end] Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us jewel/kristin\tanya/lush\happy/catherine\tori/stereolab\milla mary\massiveattack/bob\heather/juliana\dandys/orb\drunkenboat "Stories of rags to riches leave me in stitches and with a thread that's hard to follow" -Trash Can Sinatras ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 04:16:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Without the Parentheses James reach wrote: >Did I read on this list that Jewel performed a new song, >something like "Without the Parentheses" in Toronto? Now I >also here she performed "Boy Needs a Bike." Does that mean >she performed two new songs? Boy Needs A Bike is actually the song listed as Ride Away on Rare Angels. She said it was the first time she's done it since the last time she was in Toronto. Last time through, she never actually told us the title. The parantheses reference might be Carnivore. Going by memory, I think she said that in parentheses, the title is (Never Give Your Pink Fleshy Heart To A Carnivore), but without the parentheses it's just Carnivore. If I got that wrong, I'm sure I'll hear about it! She did a song called Fish Family. I saw her do it on her residency coffeehouse tour when she was just starting to tour (the same show she did Jessica at), and thought it was...strange. I've never heard anything about it since then, figured it was a one-shot thing, and was really surprised to hear it again. Here's a question for you James. How many songs do you have in the lyrics archive? And how many more do you know about that exist but you don't have lyrics for yet? I'm just wondering how many songs there are in total that we know she has either recorded or performed to date. Dan - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK danstark@netcom.ca Windsor, Ontario, Canada - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 04:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: LTD: Train Song (Pale Shade of Grey) One more time...by request...here's one for the kids in the heartland...keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. - ------------------------*------------------------------------ Train Song (Pale Shade of Grey) I try to recall what it was you said to me just then but this train keeps on rocking me back to sleep and I fear come tomorrow I won't even remember your name I'd make myself remember Make myself recall but these promises and these vows I made you now seem to have no voice at all The color of the canyons When first it was said I love you But these colors and these canyons now all seem silly and small I don't understand at all how these colors in my memory just fade into such a pale shade of grey and cold rails remind me of your cold feet and my eyes expect to see you behind every door but when I shut my eyes I can't even recall what it is that you wore My god was that only yesterday I can't even remember your face I feel so far away I make myself remember Make myself recall but these promises and these vows I made you now seem to have no voice at all The color of the canyons When first it was said I love you But these colors and these canyons now all seem silly and small I don't understand at all how these colors in my memory just fade away into such a pale shade of grey *I say to myself My god I used to love him I wanted to share with him my womb and my world But now I stare at him as though through a glass wall I say I used to love him but now I feel nothing for him at all My god how could this be Won't you please explain this to me Now sleep sings to me in a sweet and urgent voice And I fear that I have no choice but to forget these flowers these daisies you gave me, the offerings you made me the vows that we swore by, swearing we'd be together always and forever, the children we named and now we'll never have and I know I'm supposed to meet you I don't even think I'll remember your name tomorrow I make myself remember Make myself recall but these promises and these vows I made you now seem to have no voice at all The color of the canyons When first it was said I love you But these colors and these canyons now all seem silly and small I don't understand at all how these colors in my memory just fade away into such a pale shade of grey - ---------------------*-------------------- [scat-singing to end] Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us jewel/kristin\tanya/lush\happy/catherine\tori stereolab\milla/pwei\shawn/adrianborland/mary massiveattack/bob\heather/juliana\dandys/orb\drunkenboat/thesound "Stories of rags to riches leave me in stitches and with a thread that's hard to follow" -Trash Can Sinatras ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 04:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: LTD: The Circle Song And here we are again...heading for the top of the charts...just you, me, and the sandboxes between..so let's take a look at an old one by one of our favorites here..it's - ---------------------------*------------------------- The Circle Song (With You I Will Always Be) by Jewel Kilcher If you see me speak without words Know that I am speaking of the wind And if you see my words like wind know that soft tongues cut through stone And if you see my words like stone Know its wisdom lies in silence and if you see my wisdom in silence Then with you I will always be And if you doubt my true love is true Just see how you have no chains upon your hands And if you see you wear no chains You are free like poor men And if you see your freedom in being poor (How or You are?) pleased you'll be with the treasure of your mind And if you're pleased with the treasure of your mind Then with you I will always be And if you wonder how it is that I ___?(am?) Just watch the sun set slip away (space between sun and set intentional) and as you watch that sun slip away know some things are better left unseen And if you know things are better left unseen then night shall carry you in her arms and if you see I carry you in my arms Then with you i will always be With you I will always be - -----------------*--------------------- [scat-singing to end] Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us jewel/kristin\tanya/lush\happy/catherine\tori stereolab\milla/pwei\shawn/adrianborland/mary massiveattack/bob\heather/juliana\dandys/orb\drunkenboat/thesound "Stories of rags to riches leave me in stitches and with a thread that's hard to follow" -Trash Can Sinatras ------------------------------ From: Aaron Matthew Suever Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 01:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: review of May 12 show (finally) Hi All, Wow! She kicked ass!! (Oops, out of consideration for young or delicate ears, I will henceforth be replacing that phrase with "That donkey moved!" - I don't want to be accused, like Jewel, of having the mouth of a trucker ). Anyway, the show was in Grand Rapids (2 1/2 hours from me) in this little club called the Intersection (probably because it was located on the corner - some people are so clever with names!). We (me and fellow lister Karl, who I'd never met before) got there about 8pm. (btw, thanks for driving, Karl.) The place was supposed to open about 9, but the line already went from one end of the block to the other. Right after we got in line, people started handing out that Duncan and Jewel cassingle, "to keep everybody happy," they said with smiles. Lots of younger people this time than Feb. at the Blind Pig in Ann Arbor (yes! yes! I've seen her twice now.) Another lister who was kind enough to give me directions to the place spotted my cowgirl shirt and came back to say hi (thanks for the directions, Jennifer). Okay, so it's freezing in line, and they decide to let everyone in early. Foolish me had left my CD and a present in the car, but I wasn't budging from the line - I thought I'd go back out and get it later. After I got in, I found out that it would cost me ten bucks to re-enter if I left (who made this stinking policy!?) Well, we finally get in and it's like a long cave with the tiny little stage at the back. On our way in, we saw that they were only selling the black F@#K You, I'm Sensitive shirts, so I felt pretty cool in my beige and maroon cowgirl. We made a beeline for the stage and amazingly, not too many people were up front yet. We were about five people back, and maybe ten feet or so front and center from the mike. We immediately parked our kiesters (well, our feet - there were no seats), and tag-teamed a pit stop. Sorry about pulling a Carter on you, Jennifer. After a while, Duncan and his band came out. They seemed like nice guys. The bass player looked like Ethan Hawke. They played about 40-45 minutes. The crowd was appreciative, but anxious for Jewel, and Duncan kept saying "Thanks, you guys are really nice. Jewel will be out soon," but like he felt we were just being polite, so I felt kinda bad. As far as their sound goes, it reminded me a lot of Toad The Wet Sprocket, but Duncan's voice is deeper. They're certainly not the same though. All right, so they start doing a cover of Radiohead's "fake plastic trees" - which you can find on the Clueless sndtrk that Jewel got cut from - and Duncan makes some more strange comments about Jewel coming out any minute, if she's not already here, and he's just grinning over to stage right, where the band entrance is. I looked over and I think I saw her signing some people's cassingles, and just smiling away, but the crowd wouldn't move, and then she disappeared. I lose! I don't think anybody farther than twenty feet from the stage (and that means just about everyone due to the club layout) had a clue what Duncan was talking about. Oh, last highlite of Duncan's set: on one of the songs, right at the beginning, one guy's guitar cut out, so he's wandering around the stage and trying to get some help from the club's sound guys. Then he just stands there and smiles. Finally, just at the end, they get him wired back in and he plays the last verse to tremendous crowd applause, and Duncan, who's facing forward playing the keyboard for this song breaks into a big grin. -set break- Almost nobody moved. We inched forward so we were now maybe 4 or 4 1/2 people back. About five feet away, some drunk guy holding half a pitcher of beer yelled to his friend, "Aww, I gotta pee, but I'm not moving." I had to laugh and thank my stars I'd already taken care of that. He didn't move either, so he was probably in miserable ecstasy for Jewel's whole set. When sound check was almost done, everyone was squished so tightly together that I didn't even have room to cross my arms. Sardines have it good, man! Compared to us anyway. But it really wasn't so bad. I was too happy being where I was to care. My knees - which usually bother me a lot by the end of a show, even good shows - never complained. Then Jewel comes out. She looks very happy, not tired at all, and she's wearing this lavender long-sleeve turtleneck and purple, 50s or 60s-style slacks and jumps right into Tracy Chapman's "Behind the Wall", doing it a capella, which is a good crowd quieter, I think - receives your full attention right from the get-go. At any rate, she really seems to like starting with this, judging by how many shows she's opened with it. Every time I hear it though (it's on one of the compilations), I hear her singing it, and Tracy singing it, and Tracy singing "Fast Car", and her singing "Fast Car", but only in my head, and it drives me nuts, 'cause it would be so good. But I think it's kind of musician's etiquette to not perform someone else's biggest hits, unless they've got a bunch. Whatever the reason, Jewel doesn't seem to want to do it. No matter, that donkey moved! Next she did Little Sister, and that donkey moved again! She followed with a song with the refrain, "My whole purpose in life is to/kiss your ass!" -sarcastic, of course. Need I say it? That donkey moved! I tried to remember what song it was, but I couldn't place it. I know I've heard it before (maybe my first show), and I'll be really embarassed if it's on one of the tapes I have (I haven't had time to listen to Innerchange since the show). Anyway, she did a bunch more songs, and even though that donkey REALLY moved, I was bumming a little thinking that the band wouldn't come out. Just when I was sure of it, they did. COOL, COOL, COOL!!! The three D's were all pretty nice, good too. I think they only played on, maybe, six or so songs. It's hard for me to say because her voice usually gets most of my attention. At any rate, they have got THE CUSHIEST JOBS; they play a coupla songs, and get to hear Jewel EVERY NIGHT. They'll know more of her songs than all of us. I am so envious, I just wanna quit my job and be a Jewelhead (the first?!), following around to every show, maybe sell junk to the newbies to support myself. What I do know is this band thing deserves more exploration. BTW, in case anyone was wondering, the keyboard was a Korg, if that means anything. Big Blue was very blue (looked sorta green on TV) and so beautiful. And it's really not that big, looked just right in fact. Okay, the setlist (in no particular order, with maybe one or two songs missing): "Behind the Wall" "Marital Carnival" "Never Trust Your Pink, Fleshy Heart to a Carnivore" "House of the Rising Sun" - this was a cover with the band. If she didn't write her own songs, she could just do covers and never, ever run out of good stuff. That donkey moved! I think this was a seventies song. It was REALLY familiar, but I can't remember who did it (this is from the era just before I really started paying attention to music). The version I remember was in a male voice. I think Mick Jagger has also done this song. The chorus mentions New Orleans. "Love Me; Just Leave Me Alone"? - not sure of title, but that IS part of the chorus "The Raven" "kiss your ass" song "Sometimes It Be That Way" "1000 Miles Away" "She Cries" - a personal favorite (they're all faves, of course, but this one specially) Louisa and Her Big Blue Guitar - by audience suggestion, and she was really happy to do it - she didn't play it on Big Blue tho - something about it being a different tuning (can you tell I'm not a musician?) "Money" - no one's talked about this song since I've been on the list, but it was *my* first favorite on Innerchange Days. Such a great song. That donkey flew! She intro'd it by talking about meeting her roommates at Interlochen. She walked in and they were having some big philosophical discussion about marrying for love or something, and one said that she'd never marry a fat, ugly guy. Turns out that she (or her mother? -I know I've got this story all messed up) did marry some fat guy -"Oh, but he's rich!" "Pieces of You" - the last line was "Do you hate me/cause I'm pieces of you" - this was the first of many lyric modifications for the evening - sorry James, I didn't tape it, and my oral memory is horrible "You Were Meant For Me" - this was one of the early songs, and a lot of people were singing along (including me - it's one of my very favorites). When she got to "consoled a cup of coffee/but it didn't want to talk", she changed it after coffee, but I can't remember what she changed it to. Arrgh. And she just grinned as we all stumbled :} "Little Sister" "Foolish Games" "Near You Always"? - I can't remember if she played this or not "Angel Standing By"? - again, as I was tallying the songs when I got home, I'm not sure if she played this, or I'm just remembering all the times I've heard it "Morning Song" "Amen" - when she finished this, she had to wipe (a tear from?) her eye, and with good reason "Daddy" - by strenuous audience request from a group behind me (I was in full support however). When she did this in Ann Arbor, I could swear she left out the line "so go ahead and psychoanalyze that", but it was back this time. "I'm Sensitive" - this was, by far, the most modified song. She did a couple of verses and then she went crazy with it. When she got to "if we robbed the cynics and took all their food", there was something about Robin Hood instead. Then she stopped and the crowd went wild. Then she tailored a verse to the location - something about how she liked playing in Michigan, and she should come back real soon- which got tremendous crowd approval. Then she started asking for suggestions, "Okay, what should I sing about?" and she'd do a verse. "This is like exercise for me. Come on, what else?" And she did maybe four or five verses like that. As encores, she did a quick WWSYS, and then Chime Bells (people had asked for these right at the start, and she said she'd get to 'em later). She's got Chime Bells down to an exact science, whereas in February it was still a little loose. All in all, set length was about an hour and forty five, we were so lucky. We hung out after the show, hoping to meet her, and got to talk to fellow lister Jennifer and her friend (saving ourselves from Carter-dom). Last time I was too shy to talk to Jewel, but this time I was psyched. Some guy in the tour entourage kept saying she MIGHT come out, but only if we were really good. Well, turns out that after most of the people cleared out (a LOT of people stayed initially), she was too tired and was just going to go to bed :( Oh well, I guess the Toronto people did deserve a good show the next night too. And it is a long drive from Grand Rapids to Toronto. It was a long ride for me too. I didn't get home until 3:30, and Karl still had an hour or so to go. I took some notes on the show 'cause I was way too tired to post and I was afraid I'd forget by morning. Then I finally went to bed. Oh sweet bed! ------------------------------ From: ALalas@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 23:27:48 -0400 Subject: re: girlfriends and stuff... >On Tue, 14 May 1996 ALalas@aol.com wrote: >> Choppd liver wrote: >> >It would be sad if these people never understood the basis of her art. >> Why? if they still enjoy the music what's the difference? >Well, like the ant said in The Once and Future King, "I really like that 'Mammy >Mammy Mammy Mammy' song. You know, the one that goes 'Mammy mammy >mammy mammy.'" I've never seen this movie or book or play or whatever it is. Even so would anyone, chopped liver or anyone else like to translate this response into english for me? Yes, sometimes art is more meaningful if you know the source. Some people don't care. I LOVED wwsys before i knew who it was by or what she was about. I loved UtP before i knew what a Great person Tori Amos is. I could say this about almost every artist i love... I guess you are entitled to be sad for these people who don't know much about jewel other than she likes their music. It doesn't mean they are sad for themselves. On a semi-related note i had accidentally flipped to MTV and i saw Tori at the Virgin store in NY on MTV news. It was a great minute or so piece. I hope some of you saw it. They always seem to run a good video after the MTV news breaks. They did. needless to say it was wwsys! :) rafa wrote: >No more depression , but I'm becoming jaded Tori said something like this in the interview on MTV "being jaded just doesn't work anymore." ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Thu, 16 May 96 08:40:30 EST Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #198 On Wed, 15 May 1996 19:53:53 -0700 (PDT) you said: >I pulled out my Simon and Garfunkel CD for the first time in ages today >and I thought that I would love to hear Jewel sing "Bridge Over Troubled >Water" and since I hadn't mentioned any, so far, I thought I'd throw my >two cents in. > >Lisa Speaking of Paul Simon, how about her re-doing '50 Ways to Leave Your Lover'? Dean ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Thu, 16 May 96 08:33:56 EST Subject: Re: Jewel in Cleveland... On Wed, 15 May 1996 18:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Brian (Fongul) Bartel said: > Also, one last little >thing... George Gershwin wrote "Summertime" for his opera "Porgy and Bess". >Janis Joplin did a cover of it with the Full-Tilt Boogie Band a while ago. >Is it just me, or is Jewel exercising some Joplin-like qualities? This >questionis in NO way meant to say that Jewel is "stealing" or being in anyway >"unoriginal", so please don't flame me to death. She has alot of blues/jazz >singer tendencies to play around within given songs,and the band was wonderful >at keeping with her. Funny you should mention Janis. I played a couple songs for my sister (on the way home from my MOM'S college graduation no less) and my sister said 'She sounds a lot like Janis Joplin.' It kinda threw me for a loop so to speak. I never really thought about it before. But now that the idea has been thrown into my meek brain, I have to agree... just a little though. Dean Harris ------------------------------ From: Linus Gelber Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Of Interest to NYers Only Well: it's the big day! I'll be wearing black jeans, leather jacket, and a black t-shirt with the periodic chart of elements on it, and carrying a light green umbrella. Say hi if you see me. Short, glasses, brown hair (longish and infrequently kempt). Even better--I might not be as early as I hope to be (work late, etc.), so if you see me in front, please wave and holler. I'd rather join you than hang at the end of the line. Ciao - Linus - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Linus Gelber linus@panix.com Brooklyn, N.Y.C. - -o-<< WASTE cyrano@nycbeer.org Peripheral Visionary - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 08:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: LTD: Train Song (Pale Shade of Grey) On Thu, 16 May 1996, Tom Proven wrote: > Train Song (Pale Shade of Grey) [lyrics omitted, thanks though, Tom] Just wondering if this song really catches anyone else. There's something about it that when I play that Innerchange tape I find myself rewinding a couple of times to hear it again. I think it might even be my favourite Jewel song (tied with "Nicotine Love"). - --Neile ------------------------------ From: markmc@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Mark McCormick) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 09:16:38 -0700 Subject: House of the Rising Sun >"House of the Rising Sun" - this was a cover with the band. If she didn't > write her own songs, she could just do covers and never, ever run > out of good stuff. That donkey moved! I think this was a seventies > song. It was REALLY familiar, but I can't remember who did it > (this is from the era just before I really started paying attention > to music). The version I remember was in a male voice. I think Mick > Jagger has also done this song. The chorus mentions New Orleans. The version I have is Eric Bourdon (Sp?) and the Animals. I don't know who originally wrote the song though. While I'm posting one other question. Jewel is playing in the SF area sometime soon (promoted on Live 105) Is that in conjunction with the Free Tibet concert or is it another show? Thanks, Mark McC. Mark McCormick markmc@uclink4.berkeley.edu "I'm not the hero I could be" -Belly ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 12:16:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Songs Jewel shouldn't cover Ok, I have one. And it wouldn't be *bad* just not good. I don't know the title but it's that song that would be a total waste of her voice "John, Jacob, Jenglehumer-schmitt, his name is my name too....". Maybe that's cause i'm on actifed. Oh well. James _________________________________________________________________________ juddjam@eng.auburn.edu http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam Computer Science Grad Student Network Services Web/Lab Guy ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #200 ***************************