From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #112 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Tuesday, 2 April 1996 Volume 01 : Number 112 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ouch...can't we all be friends? Providence Pre-Concert Party? a PBS comment re: Videos Imitation Re: a PBS comment Re: Imitation Re: ouch...can't we all be friends? Bobby D and Jewel Re: tidbits and Jewel at Tower Re: jewel-digest V1 #103 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:45:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: ouch...can't we all be friends? To me, anyone who uses the term "posuer" is an elitest thinking "Noone can possibly feel and percieve the way that I and my little band of buddies do. Therefore, anybody I see as tying to invade my territory is a phoney." Well, anyway, I feel the humanity in Jewel's songs. And that, to me, is honesty. I will complain, though, about the directors of her videos. It seems that THEY are the ones who don't know what to do with her style. It's as if they can't catagorize it, and thus can't portray it correctly. It is confusing, first hearing the songs and reading the lyrics, then seeing a video that struggles convey the mood. On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Scott Hamilton wrote: > hello, everyone: > > i'm a firm believer in the right to express an opinion, but i was a bit put > off when i read the following on the juliana hatfield list: > > >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:33:12 -0600 > >From: [name of sender deleted to save him/her flame-mail] > >To: juliana@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu > >Subject: Re:jewel > > > >who does she think she's fooling? have you heard this chick on MTV singing > >judt like Juliana trying way too hard to be her. Give up Jewel! There's only > >one Juliana you sorry poseur!!! > > > > yikes! reactions? Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ From: reach@fishnet.net (James Reach) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 10:52:29 PST Subject: Providence Pre-Concert Party? I am interested in hosting a pre-concert party for Jewel fans on April 18th in Boston or Providence prior to her performance with Dylan. If anyone is interested in coming or helping with the planning, please E-Mail me. Let's have a killer time! ------------------------------ From: Steve Melisi Date: 1 Apr 1996 14:28:41 -0500 Subject: a PBS comment Off the subject but as a longtime volunteer at WGBH (the PBS station here in Boston) I have to put in my two cents about public television. The comments are right regarding the annoyance of pledge breaks (which average 8 minutes) and that the "good shows" are only on during pledge times. But the fact is that pledge breaks raise money. Big money. Face it: PBS wouldnt do them all the time if they didnt work. And with the cuts that the government has been making in PBS funding, it is even more critical that money come from the viewers, who enjoy "good shows" all year long. I'd be perfectly happy to debate this privately and not on the jewel list, but this point must be made: PBS is essential! - -steve m (smelis@it.berklee.edu) ------------------------------ From: Derek Mok <4dm@qlink.queensu.ca> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:48:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: re: Videos > I will complain, though, about the directors of her videos. It seems > that THEY are the ones who don't know what to do with her style. Remember, though, that a music video is not like a feature film. In a music video, the artist tends to have quite a bit of control over the product. In a film, of course, the director is the boss -- the center of all creative aspects of the production, responsible only to the producers. I think that Jewel, despite her obvious musical talent, may sometimes also do curious things with her own style. It is my belief that she still has plenty of room to grow. Her flawed videos may (not necessarily, but possibly) be reflections of her own artistic immaturity (to some degree). Feel free to flame, but please try to make your criticisms of my criticism intelligent and well-analyzed. Damn, that sounds so snobbish. Derek "Tanky" Mok. ------------------------------ From: SilverKat1@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:57:20 -0500 Subject: Imitation In a message dated 96-04-01 10:30:36 EST, you write: > Even if imitation did exist, so what? Musical styles are there to be >admired, and to inspire others. I agree... Sarah McLachlan's music inspired me to start singing and playing guitar in 91, Tori Amos' music inspired me to play the piano in 92, Jewel playing at the Innerchange influenced me to get something started at local coffee places here... Take care Kim ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Lee" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:30:33 -0500 Subject: Re: a PBS comment > Date: 1 Apr 1996 14:28:41 -0500 > From: Steve Melisi > Subject: a PBS comment > To: jewel@smoe.org > > > > Off the subject but as a longtime volunteer at WGBH (the PBS station here in > Boston) I have to put in my two cents about public television. The comments > are right regarding the annoyance of pledge breaks (which average 8 minutes) > and that the "good shows" are only on during pledge times. But the fact is > that pledge breaks raise money. Big money. Face it: PBS wouldnt do them all > the time if they didnt work. And with the cuts that the government has been > making in PBS funding, it is even more critical that money come from the > viewers, who enjoy "good shows" all year long. I have a problem with that though...the only time this year that i was watching PBS (the show was 'Les Miserables in concert...anyone else see it?) happened to be during pledge season and I missed half of what i was watching because i couldn't stand the breaks - - Majesta ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 15:39:49 EST Subject: Re: Imitation On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:57:20 -0500 you said: >In a message dated 96-04-01 10:30:36 EST, you write: > >> Even if imitation did exist, so what? Musical styles are there to be >>admired, and to inspire others. > >I agree... Sarah McLachlan's music inspired me to start singing and playing >guitar in 91, Tori Amos' music inspired me to play the piano in 92, Jewel >playing at the Innerchange influenced me to get something started at local >coffee places here... > >Take care >Kim > > Hey Kim, Does this mean we'll all soon be scrambling to find bootlegs and promo discs of your music? Maybe you could "offer" us a taste sometime. Thanks, Dean ------------------------------ From: Christopher Garland Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:44:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: ouch...can't we all be friends? Dear friends 'o' Jewel I agree with Scott. Both Juliana and Jewel are excellent artist, but aside from their name's sounding remotely similar when you say them really fast while holding your tounge, in a drunken stupor, Ms. Hatfield and are young Alaskan friend have very little in common...certainly not singing styles. Let's all just assume that Juliana was sending the world a mean 'ole April Fools Joke...OK. Take care Hold hands and look both ways when crossing a street Use the Force and Smile Lots Christopher E. Garland On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Scott Hamilton wrote: > hello, everyone: > > i'm a firm believer in the right to express an opinion, but i was a bit put > off when i read the following on the juliana hatfield list: > > >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:33:12 -0600 > >From: [name of sender deleted to save him/her flame-mail] > >To: juliana@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu > >Subject: Re:jewel > > > >who does she think she's fooling? have you heard this chick on MTV singing > >judt like Juliana trying way too hard to be her. Give up Jewel! There's only > >one Juliana you sorry poseur!!! > > > > yikes! reactions? > > scott > > ps--i'm not trying to stir up trouble, just discussion. 'cause while i'm a > fan of both artists, i'd never really noticed the similarity in their > singing styles until i read this. whaddya think? > > ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Lee" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:15:53 -0500 Subject: Bobby D and Jewel Anyone know anything about Bob and Jewel's April 15-16 dates in Toronto? Cost, location??? - Majesta ------------------------------ From: Chip Davies Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 17:55:05 EST Subject: Re: tidbits and Jewel at Tower Dear Psychopath, On the other hand there have been a couple of good singles produced over the 30-odd year history of RnR (Hell, even the Minutemen liked CCR, though they maintained Dylan wrote propaganda songs). Actually I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I would simply like to cling to the naive idea that every once in a while the public's preference and the musical aesthetic intersect. I hope Jewel is one of those dots. BUT, I digress. The Tower appearance was key. The audience appeared to be over 100 people. Jewel is quite the glamourpuss these days, sporting a black spaghetti strap evening dress. She was by her own admission talkative with a brief political commentary "Buchanan and Dole...[can] drop dead" (uproarious applause), as well as a possible connection between nostril flaring and optimum guitar harmonics. For me the highlights were "Sometimes it be That Way", "Little Sister", and "Fat Boy" (title?) which evoked a heavy sigh from Jewel at the end. She prefaced her finale with more thanks to KROQ for playing her and you for getting the CD. She had her new custom guitar with her which depicts a twilight sky with inlaid stars. Together, Jewel and that guitar are the most inspiring sights on the pop horizon. It was good to meet James Reach (who btw is cataloguing Jewel's lyrics) and great to say hi to Jewel. ok that's it. almost, Rugburns Wed at Euclid Tavern ------------------------------ From: Chip Davies Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 18:06:00 EST Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #103 Sorry, I couldn't resist so flame on this is for psychoben's benefit: Well we're big rock singers we got golden fingers and we're loved everywhere we go. We sing about beauty and we sing about truth, at ten thousand dollars a show. We take all kinds of pills to give us all kinds of thrills, But the thrill we'll never know, Is the thrill that'll gitcha when ya git your picture On the cover of the Rolling Stone. -Dr. Hook and his medicine band ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #112 ***************************