From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V10 #66 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, March 18 2005 Volume 10 : Number 066 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V9 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Re: Jewel's new album [Theresa Bolger Gubrud ] [EDA] Alaska and Country Music LoL [gina brumley ] Re: [EDA] Jewel going country? [rawhite78@aol.com] [EDA] SJC: all you ever need to know about Freebird ["Allison Crowe Music] [EDA] Jewel going country? ["Lauren Bennett" Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel's new album I had not a SHRED of "argument" intended in what I wrote! Don't worry, just expressing my opinion on what I want. Melissa and I "know" each other (from trading and lists) and I know her intent wasn't argumentative either. We've already emailed back and forth privately about trades regarding these recent posts. So I'm not telling you "to chill" -- but don't worry, either. T On Thursday, March 17, 2005, at 12:05 AM, jewel-digest wrote: > If you guys are talking about the game I started (filling up a > hypothetical > cd), then I just want to say that I didnt mean to start drama or > anything. I > just thought it was a fun game. I really like the fact that everyone is > expressing their opinions on whether Jewels new record should be old, > new or both > material. But, theres a fine line between expressing opinions and > arguing and I > think its starting to turn into an agrument. Im not saying it is, and > im > probably still gonna end up getting a bunch of e-mail from EDA's who > think Im a > psychopath, telling me to chill out. But all Im sayin' is : If you > think Jewel's > new record should have old stuff, all the power to you, if you think > Jewel's new > record should have new stuff, all the power to you. Lets just respect > everyones opinion and just move on! > > BMak ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:09:23 -0800 (PST) From: gina brumley Subject: [EDA] Alaska and Country Music LoL OMG I can't believe they okay-ed drilling in an Alaskan nature preserve...well, under this administration, yeah, I guess I can believe it...'nuff said. No political arguments on the list. Email privately if you have beef with what I just said LoL ANYHOW...you guys, country music is not all guys with mullets singing about their dead Mom's, lost dogs, wayward women, and broken down trucks...have you guys ever listened to Allison Kraus? What a beautiful voice, such vocal talent. Martina McBride, Julie Roberts, Jo Dee Messina, Reba McEntire...the list goes on and on. If you take a good listen to "This Way," you'll hear that a lot of the material on that album could have VERY easily been played on the contemporary country radio stations, with little or no modifications. Gina Come to my BLOG: Beer Goggles It has been too many nights of being with, to now be suddenly without. Make Yahoo! your home page ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:11:50 EST From: rawhite78@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel going country? In a message dated 3/16/2005 11:27:37 PM Central Standard Time, jessicaboyd1977@yahoo.com writes: I second that. I guess the deliverance rednecks dig the yodeling. Too bad. They can't have her!!! lol [Deliverance] You got a pretty mouth. [/Deliverance] Man, gotta love the stereotypes. I guess based on my choice of music, accent, dress, livestock and farmer's tan I must be undereducated, backwards, inbred, simple-minded, and xenophobic (foreign being anything from out of state in this case.) Oh well. Now I know why that baby doll Jewel shirt I bought during the Spirit tour looked funny on me (besides being three sizes too small.) As for the music.... Country is a rather broad genre, ranging from Bob Wills/Patsy Cline to Big and Rich/Dixie Chicks, but Contemporary Country is just average meretricious pop music, but with boots. No heart, no soul, no depth, just another trick for another dollar. About the only thing worse than Contemporary Country is Crossover Country. Those horribly recut songs that kinda sucked on the Nashville station, but _really_ blow on the Adult A/C stations. Anyway, I don't really have a point, just the sounds of people gagging about Country music made me want to post. Rowdy 'This Lonestar beer in my cereal is keeping me alive.' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:38:50 -0800 From: "Allison Crowe Music Mgmt" Subject: [EDA] SJC: all you ever need to know about Freebird Happy St. Patrick's Day everyone!!! The Wall Street Journal has published the following feature on the song "Freebird" - and, you'll find a wee mention of Jewel near the middle - cheers, Adrian (March 17) -- One recent Tuesday night at New York's Bowery Ballroom, the Crimea had just finished its second song. The Welsh quintet's first song had gone over fairly well, the second less so, and singer/guitarist Davey MacManus looked out at the still-gathering crowd. Then, from somewhere in the darkness came the cry, "Freebird!" It made this night like so many other rock 'n' roll nights in America. "Freebird" isn't the Crimea's song; it's from the 1973 debut album by legendary Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd. The band's nine-minute march from ruminative piano to wailing guitar couldn't be less like the Crimea's jagged punk-pop. But it was requested nonetheless. Somebody is always yelling out the title. "I don't know that I've ever seen a show where it hasn't happened," says Bill Davis of the veteran country-punk band Dash Rip Rock. "It's just the most astonishing phenomenon," says Mike Doughty, the former front man of the "deep slacker jazz" band Soul Coughing, adding that "these kids, they can't be listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd." Yelling "Freebird!" has been a rock clichi for years, guaranteed to elicit laughs from drunks and scorn from music fans who have long since tired of the joke. And it has spread beyond music, prompting the Chicago White Sox organist to add the song to her repertoire and inspiring a greeting card in which a drunk holding a lighter hollers "Freebird!" at wedding musicians. Bands mostly just ignore the taunt. But one common retort is: "I've got your 'free bird' right here." That's accompanied by a middle finger. It's a strategy Dash Rip Rock's former bassist Ned Hickel used. According to fans' accounts of shows, so have Jewel and Hot Tuna's Jack Casady. Jewel declines to comment. Mr. Casady says that's "usually not my response to those kind of things." Others have offered more than the bird. On a recent live album, Modest Mouse's Isaac Brock declares that "if this were the Make-a-Wish Foundation, and you were going to die in 20 minutes -- just long enough to play 'Freebird' -- we still wouldn't play it." Dash Rip Rock often plays "Stairway to Freebird," a mash-up of the Skynyrd epic and Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" that Mr. Davis boasts lasts "less than two minutes. ... You're finished before people get mad." A few years ago, Mr. Doughty started promoting the Weather Girls' "It's Raining Men" as the new "Freebird," asking audiences at his solo shows to call for the disco chestnut instead. Now, he says, he gets yells for both songs at every performance. A harsh reaction to "Freebird" came from the late comedian Bill Hicks during a Chicago gig in the early 1990s. On a bootleg recording of the show, Mr. Hicks at first just sounds irked. "Please stop yelling that," he says. "It's not funny, it's not clever -- it's stupid." The comic soon works himself into a rage, but the "Freebirds" keep coming. "Freebird," he finally says wearily, then intones: "And in the beginning there was the Word -- 'Freebird.' And 'Freebird' would be yelled throughout the centuries. 'Freebird,' the mantra of the moron." How did this strange ritual begin? "Freebird" is hardly obscure -- it's a radio staple consistently voted one of rock's greatest songs. One version -- and an important piece of the explanation -- anchors Skynyrd's 1976 live album "One More From the Road." On the record, singer Ronnie Van Zant, who was killed along with two other bandmates in a 1977 plane crash, asks the crowd, "What song is it you want to hear?" That unleashes a deafening call for "Freebird," and Skynyrd obliges with a 14-minute rendition. 'Freebird': Three Approaches Getty Images Fight It On a recent live album, Modest Mouse's Isaac Brock was defiant: "If this were the Make-a-Wish Foundation, and you were going to die in 20 minutes -- just long enough to play 'Freebird' -- we still wouldn't play it." ZUMApress.com Try Overkill Former Soul Coughing frontman Mike Doughty suggests musicians play the entire song every single time it's requested. "That would put a stop to 'Freebird,' I think. It would be a bad couple of years, but it might be worth it." AP Just Roll With It Lynyrd Skynyrd's Johnny Van Zant went to a Cher concert a couple years ago, and couldn't resist yelling it himself. "My wife is going, 'Stop! Stop!' I embarrassed the hell out of her." Quote Source: The Wall Street Journal To understand the phenomenon, it also helps to be from Chicago. When asked why they continue to request "Freebird," Mr. Hicks's tormentors yell out "Kevin Matthews!" Kevin Matthews is a Chicago radio personality who has exhorted his fans -- the KevHeads -- to yell "Freebird" for years, and claims to have originated the tradition in the late 1980s, when he says he hit upon it as a way to torment Florence Henderson of "Brady Bunch" fame, who was giving a concert. He figured somebody should yell something at her "to break up the monotony." The longtime Skynyrd fan settled on "Freebird," saying the epic song "just popped into my head." Mr. Matthews says the call was heeded, inspiring him to go down the listings of coming area shows, looking for entertainers who deserved a "Freebird" and encouraging the KevHeads to make it happen. But he bemoans the decline of "Freebird" etiquette. "It was never meant to be yelled at a cool concert -- it was meant to be yelled at someone really lame," he says. "If you're going to yell 'Freebird,' yell 'Freebird' at a Jim Nabors concert." Still, Mr. Matthews treasures his trove of recorded "Freebird" moments -- such as baffled comedian Elayne Boosler wondering why the audience is shouting "reverb." And he argues that good bands simply acknowledge it and move on. "The people who are conceited, the so-called artists who get really offended by it, they deserve it," he says. But did "Freebird" truly start with the KevHeads? Longtime Chicago Tribune music writer Greg Kot says he remembers the cry from the early 1980s. He suggests it originated as an in-joke among indie-rock fans "having their sneer at mainstream classic rock." Other music veterans think it dates back to 1970s audiences' shouts for it and other guitar sagas, such as "Whipping Post," by the Allman Brothers Band, and "Smoke on the Water," by Deep Purple. More From WSJ.com They may all be right: It's possible "Freebird" began as a rallying cry for Skynyrd Nation and a sincere request from guitar lovers, was made famous by the live cut, taken up by ironic clubgoers, given new life by Mr. Matthews, and eventually lost all meaning and became something people holler when there's a band onstage. But as with many mysteries, the true origin may be unknowable -- cold comfort for bands still to be confronted with the inevitable cry from the darkness. For them, here's a strategy tried by a brave few: Call the audience's bluff. Phish liked to sing it a cappella. The Dandy Warhols play a slowed-down take singer Courtney Taylor-Taylor describes as sung "like T. Rex would if he were on a lot of pills." And Dash Rip Rock has performed the real song in order to surprise fans expecting the parody. For his part, Mr. Doughty suggests that musicians make a pact: Whenever anyone calls for "Freebird," play it in its entirety -- and if someone calls for it again, play it again. "That would put a stop to 'Freebird,' I think," he says. "It would be a bad couple of years, but it might be worth it." So what do the members of Skynyrd think of the tradition? Johnny Van Zant, Ronnie's brother and the band's singer since 1987, says "it's not an insult at all -- I think it's kind of cool. It's fun, and people are doing it in a fun way. That's what music's supposed to be about." Besides, Mr. Van Zant has a confession: His wife persuaded him to see Cher in Jacksonville a couple of years ago, and he couldn't resist yelling "Freebird!" himself. "My wife is going, 'Stop! Stop!' " he recalls, laughing. "I embarrassed the hell out of her." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:46:30 +0000 From: "Lauren Bennett" Subject: [EDA] Jewel going country? wow guys...Jewel in the Telluride festival!! This is great news...many respect singers/songwriters preform at this festival. Telluride is the biggest alt country/americana/bluegrass/folk festival in the country. This is great for her to play here!! Lauren ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:43:44 EST From: WhatWouldJewelDo@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Alaska and Country Music LoL Listen Gina, youre right, not ALL mullets, but come on, i mean a line like "its time to live like you were dying" is really deep, but it seems hollow coming from a guy whose highest degree is "kidergawden gwadu-ate'' THATS JUST MY OPINOIN, PLZ DONT KILL ME! lol, i just shudder at Jewel new genre being COUNTRY! I was totally chill wid tha transitions of her genre like, POY - Folk (AWESOME!) Spirit - Folk Rock Pop (LOVE IT!) Joy - Holiday ( ROX MY SOCKS!) This Way - Rock (I LOOOOOVE IT!) 0304 - Pop ( OMG MY DREAMS ARE COMING TRUE!! SCRRRREEEEAAAMMM!!!!!) next record - COUNTRY (EXCUSE AS I THROW UP) i personally hate country, but i mean, what 15 year old likes country anyway?? some people love country, and i respect that, the little bit of country on this way was chill 2, but 4 a whole record!? i think she should do these genres - ROCK POP FOLK and a little country, but not COUNTRY COUNTRY COUNTRY! Chillin oUt BmAk ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V10 #66 ***************************