From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V9 #306 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, November 9 2004 Volume 09 : Number 306 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V9 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] 0304 Expiration [MLewisFL@aol.com] [EDA] Re: Next Album [Theresa Bolger Gubrud ] RE: [EDA] Re: Next Album ["Matt Sullivan" ] [EDA] The single Atlantic wanted? ["Matt Sullivan" ] RE: [EDA] hello to all EDAs ["Mike Connell" ] RE: [EDA] 0304 Expiration ["Rohaus, Samantha L" ] RE: [EDA] 0304 Expiration [Jason Quattrini ] RE: [EDA] EDAs Dying? [W1GGY2@aol.com] [EDA] intuition video ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA] EDAs Dying? ["Philip Nelson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 01:23:27 EST From: MLewisFL@aol.com Subject: [EDA] 0304 Expiration Less than two months left to listen to 0304! Hurry before December 31! ml the hopeful for '0506' angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 01:52:05 -0600 From: Theresa Bolger Gubrud Subject: [EDA] Re: Next Album I agree -- and she HAS already said it's going to be lo-fi at a lot of her shows. She said at the instantlive shows they were recording for her to put songs on her next album, too -- a few live and a few in the studio, but for sure the next one is going to be lo-fi. I think that even though 0304 is my least favorite commercial album of hers, every artist experiments -- in all artistic areas. Picasso didn't start out being the Picasso we see in museums today -- at 16 he was so good at classical realism, what else could he have done but experiment later? The part of this for me that it is great is that she seems to be coming full circle in a way -- each of the styles in music has been expressed in SOME way by at least one of her songs (not even including covers). Everything from Jazz to Gospel to country, besides the obvious. I think that's really cool. And actually, the songs I've heard off 0304 that she has sung acoustically are great. I guess I'm just not into all the "extra" that makes up pop. But I really like the songs themselves, stripped down. Well anyway, looking forward to a new album -- hope it gets here soon!!!!! And that it has Does Anyone Believe in Love on it!!!! T On Monday, November 8, 2004, at 12:05 AM, jewel-digest wrote: > Maybe, just > maybe, she'll get attached again to making the kind of music that > hooked us all, > just her and her guitar, but now with 10 years (since POY) of > life-experience > under her belt. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:24:50 -0600 From: "Matt Sullivan" Subject: RE: [EDA] Re: Next Album What would you guys think if she named the new album 0506? >From: Theresa Bolger Gubrud >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] Re: Next Album >Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 01:52:05 -0600 > >I agree -- and she HAS already said it's going to be lo-fi at a lot of her >shows. She said at the instantlive shows they were recording for her to put >songs on her next album, too -- a few live and a few in the studio, but for >sure the next one is going to be lo-fi. I think that even though 0304 is my >least favorite commercial album of hers, every artist experiments -- in all >artistic areas. Picasso didn't start out being the Picasso we see in >museums today -- at 16 he was so good at classical realism, what else could >he have done but experiment later? The part of this for me that it is great >is that she seems to be coming full circle in a way -- each of the styles >in music has been expressed in SOME way by at least one of her songs (not >even including covers). Everything from Jazz to Gospel to country, besides >the obvious. I think that's really cool. And actually, the songs I've heard >off 0304 that she has sung acoustically are great. I guess I'm just not >into all the "extra" that makes up pop. But I really like the songs >themselves, stripped down. Well anyway, looking forward to a new album -- >hope it gets here soon!!!!! And that it has Does Anyone Believe in Love on >it!!!! T >On Monday, November 8, 2004, at 12:05 AM, jewel-digest wrote: > >>Maybe, just >>maybe, she'll get attached again to making the kind of music that hooked >>us all, >>just her and her guitar, but now with 10 years (since POY) of >>life-experience >>under her belt. _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 04:34:03 -0600 From: "Matt Sullivan" Subject: [EDA] The single Atlantic wanted? Okay I'm remebering in a interview or something (think it was an aol chat actually), where Jewel said she that Atlantic wanted to put one of her songs out as a single, and they knew it would be a huge hit, but she wouldn't let them because she didn't belive in the song or didn't think it was a good representation of her work...does anyone know what song it was. Someone had told me that it was a studio verison of Lemondrops & Clover...does anyone know what it was?!? _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:18:59 -0400 From: "Mike Connell" Subject: RE: [EDA] hello to all EDAs Elizabeth, the tennis-ball-whackin' angel said: > In regards to the list being slow ... It's just as slow as I've seen it > in the past. And also said: > Of course, in general, the activity is certainly at a lower > rate than in 1997-ish Thats an understatement If I ever read one. :-) Back then the list often topped out during one 2-month or so period with between 250 and 325 posts a day! A day! The digests of this list, always published daily or when list volume hits 18K of data since the last published digest, was 40K in size back then and there were days we had *fourteen* digests. I think we have two-digest days maybe six times a year anymore. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:16:23 -0600 From: "Rohaus, Samantha L" Subject: RE: [EDA] 0304 Expiration what does that mean? We are that to which we pray: Sammy ________________________________ From: owner-jewel@smoe.org on behalf of MLewisFL@aol.com Sent: Mon 11/8/2004 12:23 AM To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] 0304 Expiration Less than two months left to listen to 0304! Hurry before December 31! ml the hopeful for '0506' angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:56:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Quattrini Subject: RE: [EDA] 0304 Expiration > what does that mean? Heh :P Just that the '04 in "0304" is almost over :P I actually listened to the whole thing for the first time a few weeks ago, as well as This Way. After busting out some of my old Jewel stuff, I've decided that I like Spirit the best out of her albums. There are some good songs on her newer CDs, but having heard most of them live and/or on TV beforehand, I was somewhat dissappointed with some of the album versions. But that's OK, because she still rocks live :P SHould be interesting to see what the new album brings. ===== ]:o_ Jason Quattrini The Master Cow _o:[ |O = "I am a WERECOW! Moooooooo!!!!" = O| |_o= quattj@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/quattj/ =o_| __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:27:56 EST From: W1GGY2@aol.com Subject: RE: [EDA] EDAs Dying? I think what a lot of the current EDA's don't get is that the magic of the Jewel list had almost nothing to do with Jewel. Jewel was merely a catalyst - something we all had in common - but most of the best gatherings had little or no Jewel involved. At first, sure, we got together at Jewel concerts. Then we started getting together for other concerts. Then we started coming up with excuses to get together: Great EDA Adventure, LizStock, Hot Dog Fest, ChelsStock, Bearsville. Then the EDAF was born. Today it seems like you can't even pay an EDA to leave his or her house to come out to anything unless Jewel will personally be there to give them a kiss or whatever. Its sad because the old days were so amazing. They were by far the best times of my life. But until people are willing to take a chance and come out to a show for someone they've never heard of or to do some volunteering with the EDAF or go camping with a bunch of nutty strangers then it will remain pretty dead here indeed even if Jewel does come out of hiding. At least for me! Amy N. www.edaf.org In a message dated 11/8/2004 1:08:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: >>This list died when Jewel went on the commercial path. The magic of the artist communicating through and with the fans was lost instantly. Since a long time I think Jewel doesnt care anymore what is happening here. And I can imagine why she doesnt care. Just my 0.02<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:24:06 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] intuition video > I don't think most people caught on that Jewel was taking a stab at pop >music culture, but then again I don't think she made it very clear. The video for >"Intuition" should have been a completely over the top satire on pop music >videos, in my humble opinion. I mean it was a satire, but it should have really >been rammed down the public's throats. It would have been a poignant >statement. ........ ok....... umm i thought the intuition video came across very clear, to me and my friends, as a joke. knowing jewel it was very over the top. but i guess there are all those dumb people out there who dont know jewel, and dont know that she doesnt normally use fire hoses in her videos regularly... or do shots of her drinking soda with her shirt blowing open... i have also never seen her walk a run way in the middle of the street or dance with a light up sign behind her that says "BLING BLING" hahahaha. i thought that video was so obviously over the top. i think everyone was just so set on making a fuss out of her change that they just didnt want to see it. of course, maybe critics make a fuss about all of jewels changes because they wish she would be the way she was... but artists have to change. and sometimes its a drastic change that is needed. to really step out of your comfort box. that can really make an artist grow. try something new. and jewel did. i was very proud of her for that. it was a brave thing to do. as for this new album... oh my god! i cant wait! she really knows what she is doing. her voice is absolutely increadible and mature now... i cant wait to hear it on an album solo, live and acoustic... for the most part. yay!alisa. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find the music you love on MSN Music. Start downloading now! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:54:54 -0600 From: "Philip Nelson" Subject: [EDA] EDAs Dying? As someone who has lurked on the list and been a Rabid Jewel fan since 1998, I think the big change happed with the new management. Before the change, Jewel seemed accessible and had "fan advocates" that were always trying to give EDA a special bonus for being that loyal fan. I've always liked her music but the "perceived" accessibility of Jewel via this list catapulted me from someone who buys her CD's to someone who fly's around the country hitting jewel concerts. (I know I'm sick) ;-> I can't say it's all the fault of her new management team but for me that spark seemed to leave during this time. It's hard to believe but I didn't see a single concert during the recent tour. It's not that I was "rebelling" against Jewels changes, it just that I didn't feel that pumped about going. That being said, I love the new Jewel album and listen to it frequently... It's just that something clicked in my head and lumped Jewel in with any other touring act.. The little things that used to be part of the "deal" like Soul city Cafi, allowing a fan to direct her video, hooking up EDA with a few tickets to uber-cool events... Those are the things that made Jewel seem like more that just a singer on the radio. I also feel that this type of "involvement" with her fans are what made Jewel so successful even though her music wasn't quite the standard for Top 40... Rabid fans help convert others to Rabid Fans.. ;-> Sorry for ranting.. (This is probably my 10th post in 7years) Later homeys! Philip Nelson San Antonio, TX ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V9 #306 ***************************