From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #527 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, December 31 2003 Volume 08 : Number 527 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC - Xmas gifts & Neil Young ["Lew Morris - Coilback" ] Re: [EDA] NJC: Wierd/Bizarre/Cool Xmas Presents? [HaRt Angel ] [EDA] Here is the email from FansRule [Jason Hildreth Subject: [EDA] NJC - Xmas gifts & Neil Young Okay, well, here's a little page on the whole Skynyrd/Young thing (on the Sweet Home Alabama topic): http://home.earthlink.net/~thrasher1/jammin/lynyrd.htm As for my Christmas gifts, here's what I got: Beretta Cx4 Storm 9mm Carbine Rifle (which I just sold - I'm short on cash and it wasn't that impressive - but it did look very cool) Crate GX-15 practice amp (since my neighbors wouldn't appreciate me playing through my stage amp (full stack B-52 rig) setup in my apartment) Indiana Jones DVD set, South Park Season 3 set CDs - Outkast and John Lennon Cookware (mine was wore out) A small army....long story on that one that was it...don't have a lot of friends or family, so that was the extent of it....nothing too spectacular. If any of you are in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area (specifically Arlington) and need somewhere to go tonite (New Year's Eve) - head over to Monte Carlos...my band, Coilback will be playing there and doing the countdown as well. There's directions on our site (www.coilback.com ). We are hitting the studio next month too, so all of you that have been supportive of us on the list, make sure to drop me a line and I'll try and hook you up with a copy of the new CD when it comes out. Lew www.coilback.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:06:38 EST From: SullMa84@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Ahh!! FANSRule Files BANKRUPTCY! Dear Valued Fan, Some of you have received a notice in the mail that FansRULE filed for Chapter 11 protection on November 12th. This is a procedure which allows a company to reorganize under the protection of the Federal Bankruptcy court, and continue normal business operations. FansRULE took this step so that we could better serve, and protect our commitments to fans, artists, artist management groups and employees. This reorganization will help strengthen the company in doing business and ensure that FansRULE continues to operate and grow. Webre looking forward to a great new year.Since our filing, many of you have already enjoyed events held in New York, Washington, Manchester and Boston, to name a few. Tickets for all events have been shipped. Merchandise has also been shipped, or is in the process of being shipped. This restructuring will allow us to deliver all our services on a more timely basis. We are sorry for any confusion or concerns this notice may have caused you. If you have further questions, click here. x x x x x x x Visit www.46664.com to join the fight against AIDS Song of the week: Fallen by Sarah McLachlan CD of the Week: 2 Become 1 (single) by Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:09:49 EST From: SullMa84@aol.com Subject: [EDA] More on Fansrule Opps forgot to say that I got that in my email box, from fansrule. All I can say is karma baby! x x x x x x x Visit www.46664.com to join the fight against AIDS Song of the week: Fallen by Sarah McLachlan CD of the Week: 2 Become 1 (single) by Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:47:06 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: [EDA] Fansrule is bankrupt!! I have absolutely no idea how reliable this is, but fansrule, the folks doing the horrible job running Jewels website, is bankrupt. A guest posted this in the official Jeweljk forum: - ------------------------ "Fansrule is bankrupt! It's all coming together now. No wonder the forums are unmonitored. No wonder they hardly ever update the pages. No wonder we don't get E-mails anymore. Anyone want more proof that the old management was better? Good luck to you wanting refunds. At least Jewel is still great. I hope she fires the whole bunch." - ------------------------- If this is true, this will be a good start to the new year for us Jewel fans, in hopes that she will hire some people who can much better manage Unedited, the forum, and the rest of the site! I know its pretty rotten to cheer when a company dies, but lets face it, they were doing a pretty sub-par job with everything. But then again, this could be just a rumour. I sure hope not. Happy New Year, Mark _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:43:11 -0800 (PST) From: HaRt Angel Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Wierd/Bizarre/Cool Xmas Presents? No way!! You got microwavable popcorn with the packet-o-powdered cheese?!! That's more than "kinda cool." *laughing* I haven't had or been able to find that since my middle school/junior high days. Where'd your Dad get it from? I want some too! ~HaRt - -- SullMa84@aol.com said.. -- Did anyone get any wierd or bizarre or really really cool Christmas presents? I got popcorn that you make in the microwave n u put powdered cheese on it from my dad, which i tought was kinda cool.. Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:00:55 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Hildreth Subject: Re: [EDA] Fansrule is bankrupt!! It isn't a rumor. I got an e-mail from the company itself since I had bought tickets in the past and they have indeed filed for Chapter 11 to reorganize. They say that everything purchased will go out and this will help them in the future. YEAH RIGHT :) Jason - --- Mark Austin wrote: > I have absolutely no idea how reliable this is, but > fansrule, the folks > doing the horrible job running Jewels website, is > bankrupt. A guest posted > this in the official Jeweljk forum: > ------------------------ > > "Fansrule is bankrupt! It's all coming together now. > No wonder the forums > are unmonitored. No wonder they hardly ever update > the pages. No wonder we > don't get E-mails anymore. Anyone want more proof > that the old management > was better? Good luck to you wanting refunds. > > At least Jewel is still great. I hope she fires the > whole bunch." > > ------------------------- > > If this is true, this will be a good start to the > new year for us Jewel > fans, in hopes that she will hire some people who > can much better manage > Unedited, the forum, and the rest of the site! I > know its pretty rotten to > cheer when a company dies, but lets face it, they > were doing a pretty > sub-par job with everything. But then again, this > could be just a rumour. I > sure hope not. > > Happy New Year, > > Mark > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months > FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ===== THE PENSKE JUGGERNAUT IRL Sam Hornish Jr. Helio Castroneves NASCAR #12 Ryan Newman (DA MAN!!!) #2 Rusty Wallace (DA OLD MAN :) ) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:02:41 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Hildreth Subject: [EDA] Here is the email from FansRule - --- questions@fansrule.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:51:15 -0500 > From: questions@fansrule.com > Subject: FansRULE Notice > To: spartyinmd@yahoo.com > - --------------------------------- FansRULE Dear Valued Fan, Some of you have received a notice in the mail that FansRULE filed for Chapter 11 protection on November 12th. This is a procedure which allows a company to reorganize under the protection of the Federal Bankruptcy court, and continue normal business operations. FansRULE took this step so that we could better serve, and protect our commitments to fans, artists, artist management groups and employees. This reorganization will help strengthen the company in doing business and ensure that FansRULE continues to operate and grow. We#8217;re looking forward to a great new year. Since our filing, many of you have already enjoyed events held in New York, Washington, Manchester and Boston, to name a few. Tickets for all events have been shipped. Merchandise has also been shipped, or is in the process of being shipped. This restructuring will allow us to deliver all our services on a more timely basis. We are sorry for any confusion or concerns this notice may have caused you. If you have further questions, click here. ===== THE PENSKE JUGGERNAUT IRL Sam Hornish Jr. Helio Castroneves NASCAR #12 Ryan Newman (DA MAN!!!) #2 Rusty Wallace (DA OLD MAN :) ) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:29:09 -0800 From: "Melissa Bruce" Subject: [EDA] Fw: FansRULE Notice (my email From FansRULE) FansRULE - ----- Original Message ----- From: questions@fansrule.com To: mbruce@socal.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: FansRULE Notice Dear Valued Fan, Some of you have received a notice in the mail that FansRULE filed for Chapter 11 protection on November 12th. This is a procedure which allows a company to reorganize under the protection of the Federal Bankruptcy court, and continue normal business operations. FansRULE took this step so that we could better serve, and protect our commitments to fans, artists, artist management groups and employees. This reorganization will help strengthen the company in doing business and ensure that FansRULE continues to operate and grow. We're looking forward to a great new year. Since our filing, many of you have already enjoyed events held in New York, Washington, Manchester and Boston, to name a few. Tickets for all events have been shipped. Merchandise has also been shipped, or is in the process of being shipped. This restructuring will allow us to deliver all our services on a more timely basis. We are sorry for any confusion or concerns this notice may have caused you. If you have further questions, click here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:43:37 -0800 From: "Larry Greenfield" Subject: Re: [EDA] Sweet Home AL - and a belated thought I never heard of any feud involving Neil Young or anything like that at all, but then again I didn't even know that he was in the lyrics of "Sweet Home Alabama," so I'm not any kind of expert at all. Jewel was great in Cold Mountain. Or was that Joey Adams? - -=-Larry-=- > [Original Message] > From: Mike Connell > To: ; > Date: 12/30/2003 11:18:49 AM > Subject: Re: [EDA] Sweet Home AL - and a belated thought > > > Gotta be perfectly honest about this. Even though that WAS my prime era in > music (my college years), and I had many albums by both and even had tix to > a Skynyrd concert that was to take place during the tour when the plane > crashed killing two (?) of the band members, either this is the very first > I heard of a feud between Neil Young and LS or my alzheimers is getting > worse. ;-) > > Seriously, I do not recall anyting about this. Guess ya gotta google this > one or wait for a reply from even OLDER guys like Larry or Adrian. (Where's > Igor when you need him? I miss that coot! I ought to pull out some of the > negatives and blackmail him back into joining the list) > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:40:19 -0500 From: "ray sibley" Subject: Re: [EDA] Sweet Home AL - and a belated thought the band lynrd skynrd (spelling) were in a plane crash, i dont remember what year, apparently their tour plane ran out of fuel. neil either in a statement or a song made a comment about them being dumb enough to not fuel the plane before leaving. anyway thats why in the song "sweet home alabama" theres a line that goes something like "southern man dont need neil young around" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Greenfield" To: "Mike Connell" ; "Jewel" Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [EDA] Sweet Home AL - and a belated thought > I never heard of any feud involving Neil Young or anything like that at > all, but then again I didn't even know that he was in the lyrics of "Sweet > Home Alabama," so I'm not any kind of expert at all. > Jewel was great in Cold Mountain. Or was that Joey Adams? > -=-Larry-=- > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Mike Connell > > To: ; > > Date: 12/30/2003 11:18:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [EDA] Sweet Home AL - and a belated thought > > > > > > Gotta be perfectly honest about this. Even though that WAS my prime era > in > > music (my college years), and I had many albums by both and even had tix > to > > a Skynyrd concert that was to take place during the tour when the plane > > crashed killing two (?) of the band members, either this is the very > first > > I heard of a feud between Neil Young and LS or my alzheimers is getting > > worse. ;-) > > > > Seriously, I do not recall anyting about this. Guess ya gotta google this > > one or wait for a reply from even OLDER guys like Larry or Adrian. > (Where's > > Igor when you need him? I miss that coot! I ought to pull out some of the > > negatives and blackmail him back into joining the list) > > > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:49:33 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] Sweet Home AL - and a belated thought At 06:40 PM 12/31/2003, ray sibley wrote: >the band lynrd skynrd (spelling) were in a plane >crash, i dont remember what year, apparently their >tour plane ran out of fuel. neil either in a statement >or a song made a comment about them being dumb >enough to not fuel the plane before leaving. anyway >thats why in the song "sweet home alabama" theres >a line that goes something like "southern man dont >need neil young around" ???? Sweet Home Alabama came out years before the 1977 plane crash (which killed lead singer Ronnie Van Zant Steve Gaines and two others). Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:29:39 -0800 From: "Melissa Bruce" Subject: Re: [EDA] Sweet Home Alabama (the Zant/Young feud story) (quoted from hyperrust.org *these are not my words* but it should end all confusion! :) ) >> >>Neil wrote the songs Southern Man and Alabama for his After the Goldrush and Harvest albums, respectively. Each of the songs indicted the stereotypical southern racist attitudes that were somewhat prevelant in The South in the 60s & early 70s. Check the lyrics to see just what the songs have to say on the issue. A few years later (in 1974) Lynyrd Skynyrd decided to answer those songs from the "Southern Rock" point of view, and so was born the song Sweet Home Alabama. The song, which espouses some of the good things about Southern culture, includes the lines: "I hope Neil Young will remember, A southern man don't need him around anyhow" As a result of these songs, a lot of people assumed that there was a feud between Neil and Lynyrd Skynyrd. But the fact is that they were mutual fans! Ronnie Van Zant often wore Neil Young T-shirts while performing (check out Freebird -- the Movie) and it has always been rumored that he was wearing one when the plane went down. Neil had actually offered a couple of his songs (including one that later became one of his most popular - Powderfinger) to Skynyrd, but the plane crashed before they got around to doing anything with them. A couple of weeks after the plane crash, Neil performed his song Alabama at a concert in Miami -- and changed the chorus of the song to sing "Sweet Home Alabama" several times. Despite Ronnie Van Zant's respect for Neil, Ronnie's younger brother Johnny, who fronts the current version of Lynyrd Skynyrd, chooses to play to the crowd by taunting Neil when they play Sweet Home Alabama these days... :-( That's about as close to a "feud" as exists, because even while this taunting goes on at their shows, lead guitarist Gary Rossington has told Guitar World (in the April 2000 issue): "Like the Beatles, Neil Young was another guy who helped us get started writing real songs. It was because of his unique style, his chord changes and what his songs expressed - all the shit he did back then. As much as we loved his songs, when he wrote about 'Alabama and bullwhips crackin' ' we had to answer with Sweet Home Alabama. We toured all through Alabama for years, and it's pretty country, with plenty of great people. We weren't hanging out in the cities or with the politicians. So, we were just kidding him when we wrote that we didn't need him cuttin' down Alabama. We loved him so it was meant kind of tongue-in-cheek. He immediately sent a telegram to our manager saying he liked the song, which we thought was pretty cool. Then he came onstage in California and actually played the song with us. That was VERY cool." >> bla bla bla...bla bla :) you can read the rest of this excerpt at http://hyperrust.org/General/Skynyrd.html if you want to. and this concludes the whole "feud" myth. :) hehe (j/k) You can also watch the "story" behind the feud on VH1's 40 greatest celebrity feuds on Friday on VH1 ::check your local listings for ShowTime's:: (in the TVland (wo)man's voice) :) Melee the "I'm-not-that-old-but-I've-still-heard-of-the-zant-vs-young-feud-myth" haha... maybe that just means I watch too much TV lol ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #527 ***************************