From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #489 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, November 26 2003 Volume 08 : Number 489 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] RE: EDA:New album interview ["Kerri" ] [EDA] Got Lake Tahoe Tickets [Lseids@aol.com] [EDA] flint center show! ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA] FLINT CENTER 11/20/03??? ["now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] RE: EDA:New album interview Here's the full link. I love her last answer, posted below. I agree completely. http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Nov-21-Fri-2003/weekly/22438 137.html Elfman: I'm sure there was a fair share of that (questioning) when this new album came out. Jewel: It's like that with every record. There's always somethin'. ... You know, "Once a folk player, always a folk player." ... I really think that if you look at a painter, it's absurd to say you can only use the color blue for the rest of your career. ... I think some of those fans - -- like, extreme fans -- who are like, "She quit folk music," if I went to their CD player, I bet they don't just have folk CDs. So shame on them. (She says this last bit forcefully, but then chuckles.) ... I'd like equal punishment for all. I'd love to find all the audience members' old pictures (and say), "You fake, you no longer feather your hair!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:50:46 -0500 From: Lseids@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Got Lake Tahoe Tickets Ticketmaster was all sold out, but I called the venue directly and they had tickets for both nights - so if anyone is looking - call Caesars directly. :-) Happy Thanksgiving! Laurie. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:10:24 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] flint center show! first off ill clear this up for ya... >>>Oh! And at the end, she tossed out little somethings (candies?) to the first few rows... and when she ran out of those, she took the flowers that had been on the table and gave them to this guy.... that lucky, lucky son of a ... gun. >>>>> those were her guitar pics she was throwing out to the fans... anyway, on to my attempt of a short review... the show was AMAZING!! my friend and i were having screaming competitions, it was so much fun! i am beginning to think that the eyelash bit is just a joke story... maybe the first time she told it at saratoga on 9/11/02 it was true cus she really was at a thing in new york the day before, but then when she told it again at the santa rosa show on 9/18/02 i was getting a bit suspicious... so then when she told it last thursday my friend and i were like "yeah uh huh sure jewel..." but that made it even funnier, cus we knew how many people were thinking it was true, and it was just hilarious. jewel was in a great mood! she was so goofy and happy! i just love her when shes silly!! so the songs... WOW! her voice was absolutely increadible!!! the venue had amazing sound as well. on per la gloria diadorarvi she hit this note and i can still here it... wow. some high points where definitely the 0304 songs she sang. we got to hear 2 find U for the first solo time... now that was increadible... all of the 0304 songs are so amazing acoustic. intuition was increadible, and haunting... she did stand which was really awesome as well, and she did 2 become 1 too. everything she sang was to absolute perfection! i am very pleased with my 8th jewel show. it is definitely up for either first or second place so far... its close competition with the saratoga 9/11 show last year... they might be at a tie hahahahah. soooooo DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS SHOW RECORDED... PREFERABLE ON CD???????? IF SO PLEASE EMAIL ME, I HAVE TONS TO TRADE!!!!! alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is there a gadget-lover on your gift list? MSN Shopping has lined up some good bets ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:12:13 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] FLINT CENTER 11/20/03??? DOES ANYONE HAVE THE 11/20/03 FLINT CENTER CUPERTINO SHOW RECORDED... PREFERABLE ON CD???????? IF SO PLEASE EMAIL ME, I HAVE TONS TO TRADE!!!!! if you think you will be getting this cd and would like to trade please email me as well. THANK YOU!!! alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:52:33 EST From: NeOblCar@aol.com Subject: [EDA] SJC: Unedited ... I give up Sorry about the length ... but here's my update on those with similar concerns I will say that this has been an educational experience in looking at the inner workings of the development of fanclubs over the years to the horrors we have today. My only conclusion is that Fansrule is a minor front company (for Marblehead) that has done little on their own other than acquire Fan Emporium's clients during the dot-com valuations in the past. At the end of this email is an article related to their similar acquiring of the Aerosmith fansite and what happened to their fans. You could replace Aerosmith with Jewel and the article could almost be rerun completely today. There is a pattern here with the complaints. It is Fansrule blaming everyone for why they couldn't deliver on their promises. The same "gosh we want to get you this stuff" crap we get today. By swallowing their requests for more time we've collectively granted them permission to take our money. I've straight-out asked for a refund (three times) and that request was ignored by the company with their familiar lines of "we took over on short notice. We'll be back to you shortly." So I've filed a company with PayPal (no chance since transaction is over 30 days old), my credit card (no chance since transaction is over 90 days old), the FTC (who will only look when big dollars are involved), and Mass. Consumer Affairs (same as FTC). My only next resolve is to just drag them into small claims court, which I might do if I can swing it with a visit to Mass this winter. But I really don't care about my $40 as much as I do the tens of thousands that was brought in on all members. Everyone should be just given the full value of their membership. == Rob == "All the perfect drugs and superheroes wouldn't be enough to bring me up to zero," Aimee Mann Disgruntled Hub Aerosmith fans rock in a hard place by Brett Milano Tuesday, June 26, 2001 Boston-area Aerosmith fan club members will walk a different way outside the band's concert at the Tweeter Center tonight, protesting what they say is shoddy treatment by the new management of the club. The club was taken over this year by the national organization Fans Rule, and members say they've been getting lousy tickets instead of the prime seats they've had in the past. ``We don't want to make Aerosmith look bad, because they're obviously our favorite band. But we feel like we've been had,'' says Bonnie Tallman of Dartmouth, who's been connecting with others on the fan club's online chat boards. ``Everybody's upset. There hasn't been one person I've talked to who's gotten a good seat. We're planning to meet at the Tweeter Center early and let our voices be heard,'' Tallman said. ``It's not going to be violent, we're just going to go in there with banners. We'd like to see if we can get ticket upgrades, or at least a backstage pass to meet the band. Just something to say they're sorry.'' The problems began in April, when fan tickets for the entire tour went on sale through an 800 number at 3 a.m., with club members given less than a day's notice. An estimated 39,000 fans immediately crashed the system, and Fans Rule has worked overtime since then to get the tickets out. But many fans say they've gotten their tickets barely in time for the shows, and that they've paid premium prices for less-than-great seats. Karen Nitsche of Westport said she only received her tickets for tonight's show on Thursday. And her seats are in Section 6, Row M - in the elevated section of the Tweeter Center pavilion, closer to the lawn than the stage. Though she was charged $75 for each ticket, she says she called the Tweeter Center and found that other seats in her section were selling for $65. Worse, Nitsche ordered tickets for two different shows and was charged $20 per pair for UPS overnight shipping - even though all her tickets arrived in the same UPS envelope. ``I got ripped off on the tickets, and I got ripped off on the service charges,'' she said. ``I used to see Aerosmith at Fall River Park when they were nobody. Now I'm 40, and this is about the only thing I look forward to.'' While waiting for her tickets, Nitsche reached Fans Rule marketing director Michael Saitow, who promised a surprise in her ticket envelope that would make up for the hassle. This turned out to be a year's free membership in the fan club, plus automatic entrance in a contest. Aerosmith donated about 30 prizes for the Tweeter Center shows, including autographed drumheads and a Joe Perry guitar. ``It's good for the lucky winners,'' says Nitsche. ``But that still leaves a thousand of us with crummy seats.'' In a Herald interview, Saitow insisted ticket prizes weren't jacked up: ``We paid $75 for all the tickets that we bought, and fans were charged face value. There's nothing else I can say on that.'' Nor does he blame any of the tour's promoters, such as the local promoter, SFX, for keeping fans away from the prime seats. ``The simplest way to put it is that there were a lot of new things going on this year - not just the fan club, but a lot of new people involved,'' Saitow said. ``We weren't able to get the first 20 rows at all of the venues. And we had to put more people at the concerts than we've ever done before. So that puts more people further behind. It's simple math at this point.'' ``We never should have taken on a fan club just before a tour. Therein really lies the problem,'' admits Joyce Logan, vice president of fan services at Fans Rule. ``Usually I like to read all the letters, to get to know the mind of the fans. We'll introduce them to what we do, and we'll do some contests together,'' Logan said. ``But with Aerosmith, we didn't have the honeymoon period. It's been devastating to me, because I want them to know that this office really cares.'' Aerosmith plays the Tweeter Center again Thursday. Both shows are sold out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:30:23 -0500 (EST) From: "kevin maguire" Subject: [EDA] Palm Desert Jewel... I got JACKED... Well this was a Jewel of a weekend... From Cupertino to 1000 Oaks to Palm Desert... with meet and greet in 1000 oaks and Palm Desert, which were cool but so quick... you barely have time to say like "Hi, my name is..." take a photo and your out of there... Jewels Asst. Kim Rocks! she does some work for FansRules, and somethign else she is like the road manager thing or something, wears many hats! Anyways my friend Kathy jacked me up twice this night at the Palm Desert concert... Jewel was about to Play Carnivore for me... then Kathy yells out Rosy and Mick... Jewel does that song... ok, its cool... well later on i yell out God's gift to women... jewel trys to remember this, so i have my video camera going...and was asking kathy to hold it for me, cuz i know jewel will need someone to hold the book for her... then all of a sudden, my friend Kathy is jumping on stage and stealing my spot to hold the book :( whats up with that? :( anyways, got to run to check out some local bands right now... Check out my site www.gotlocalmusic.com Kevin Gods Gift to women... The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #489 ***************************