From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #437 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, October 14 2003 Volume 08 : Number 437 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL [JewelBlues@aol.com] Re: [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL [] [EDA] Ignorance cont. [] [EDA] Watch out (Jewel Today) [CleaningDuster@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Watch out (Jewel Today) [] Re: [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL ["Sandy" ] Re: [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL ["Melissa Bruce" ] RE: [EDA] Jewel today ["Kovacs, Mirinda" ] [EDA] 1st part NJR/2nd part re: wrong/messed up Jewel lyrics : ) ["Meliss] [EDA] EDA Mark Austin I agree whole heartly [Deb Hall > HYPOTHETICAL comment---regarding above--out of curiosity--what about all the bands that SAY 'they OWE it ALL to to their FANS, like AEROSMITH, and Bon Jovi, and KISS etc." so some musicians DO owe something to their fansd and some DONT? justa hypothetical. ALSO DOES ANYONE KNOW IF JEWELS BAND REALLY QUIT? Jewelblues@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 1:50:58 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL Because a band states this and believes this doesn't make it true. It's just a really effective way to kiss ass on thier part. Good for them. Still don't beleive they do even if they believe so. I totally respect a musicians admiration for thier fans. But to operate under the belief that they do what they do because they owe it to anyone but them selves truly drains the honesty and art out of thier work. > > From: JewelBlues@aol.com > Date: 2003/10/13 Mon AM 01:17:07 EDT > To: jewel@smoe.org > Subject: [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL > > In a message dated 10/13/03 1:06:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: > > << > SHE OWES US NOTHING. I would hope no musician anywhere would change > themselves, specifically their music because of some FALSE belief they work for us, > or owe us something. It is at that point that their music is no longer honest > and that their art lacks intimacy. > >> > HYPOTHETICAL comment---regarding above--out of curiosity--what about all the > bands that SAY 'they OWE it ALL to to their FANS, like AEROSMITH, and Bon > Jovi, and KISS etc." so some musicians DO owe something to their fansd and some > DONT? justa hypothetical. ALSO DOES ANYONE KNOW IF JEWELS BAND REALLY QUIT? > Jewelblues@aol.com > 1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 2:03:52 -0400 From: Subject: [EDA] Ignorance cont. The EDA list has changed a lot over the past couple years, but i know that a lot of the originals are still lurking and around. And I know that a lot of newbies have a shared love and understanding of not just jewel but music as a whole. But it still saddens me to read a lot of stuff like the earlier post's. We witnessed somewhat of a debate between my self and another EDA which concluded with a private email to me in which they said "she panders to us!" about Jewel. I concluded my last post to the list by saying scary. Well thats nothing compared to how i feel about a comment like "she panders to us!". I don't even know where to start, so I will end it by saying, How self important can we be?? 1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:31:33 EDT From: CleaningDuster@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Watch out (Jewel Today) Dear fellow EDA's, I just wanted to give a warning to everybody on this list: the warning is to make sure the opinion you express on this list is the opinion shared by everybody else or else you will get countless emails judging you, calling you names, and generally putting you down! If you enjoy treatment like this please continue and post your own opinion! Chandini Davis P.S next time you write an email attacking them think about how its going to affect this person you don't even know ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 9:39:38 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [EDA] Watch out (Jewel Today) The moral of this story is Feel free to lash out a negative point of view on this list, (you have all the freedom in the world to do so). But dont worry about backing your claim up, because the minute a person with the extreme opposite point of view debates it, accuse them off attacking you and all will be well. How silly of me to think I was allowed to defend the person this list is dedicated too. And how foolish was I to try and use logic to do so. > From: CleaningDuster@aol.com > Date: 2003/10/13 Mon AM 03:31:33 EDT > To: jewel@smoe.org > Subject: [EDA] Watch out (Jewel Today) > > Dear fellow EDA's, > I just wanted to give a warning to everybody on this list: the warning is to > make sure the opinion you express on this list is the opinion shared by > everybody else or else you will get countless emails judging you, calling you > names, and generally putting you down! If you enjoy treatment like this please > continue and post your own opinion! > Chandini Davis > P.S next time you write an email attacking them think about how its going to > affect this person you don't even know > 1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:55:18 -0400 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL > HYPOTHETICAL comment---regarding above--out of curiosity--what about all the > bands that SAY 'they OWE it ALL to to their FANS, like AEROSMITH, and Bon > Jovi, and KISS etc." so some musicians DO owe something to their fansd and some > DONT? justa hypothetical. the problem here is while both things sound similar, they aren't. "we owe it all to the fans" said in an interview or accepting some award means "yeah, we got this award because of our fans" or "we have fame & success because of our fans" they aren't say "yeah, we owe the fans lots of free stuff, we should be at their beck & call & do what they want"... they are not saying they actually OWE you something... it's just a "saying".. like some might say "I owe this award to God for blessing me with talent" or "I owe it all to my dog for sticking by my side" they aren't actually saying they indeed do owe the award to God or their dog & are going to walk off stage & give it them, they mean, if it hadn't been for them, they wouldn't be where they are. (be warned, slight rant, and it's not directed at the person who wrote the email, it is just in general) So yes, if it wasn't for fans buying records, & supporting them, they might not be successful... but that doesn't mean that the artist actually OWES you anything just because of that. If you buy a CD, all the artist owes you is the music on the CD, that is what you paid for. They don't owe you an autograph.... when you buy tickets to their concert, they owe you the music they are playing on stage... they don't owe you a picture with them afterwards just because you stood outside for an hour waiting... and they don't owe you the concert of your dreams in the venues YOU want whenever & whereever you want it. They don't owe you a concert at all, unless they plan a tour & you buy tickets, & can't get your money refunded for them. So while it may be disappointing... they don't have to do it...and just because they were in a rush that day when you wanted an autograph, or they were tired that day you wanted the picture after the concert, does not mean they don't give enough back to the fans. ANY time she signs something, does a contest on her website, stops for pictures, she is giving you more than you are owed. People seem to forget that celebrities are real people... they have bad days, they get tired after promoting things on tv shows & radio stations & doing photo shoots & then playing a 2 hour long concert later.... all some people can think about around here is "me me me".... it's "well, *I* waited around for an hour after her concert, and it was cold, and what a b*tch, she didn't even stop & sign my 4 cd's & 2 books & 3 pictures! I hate her after all the support I've given her!" or "she owes us a better tour after cancelling an already bad tour, these venues suck & I don't want to see her in them, they aren't big 10,000 seat venues like I want, they'll only fit 1,000 people which means she sucks & she's not as popular as I thought, so I can't like her, and who cares about t-bones death, she could have replaced the bass player & kept the tour, she should do what I want because I bought her cd & helped her pay for those boots she's wearing" be glad she's even playing a solo acoustic tour, she doesn't have to. once and for all, SHE OWES US NOTHING. ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:08:47 -0700 From: "Melissa Bruce" Subject: Re: [EDA] HYPOTHETICAL well.... I don't know what else to say about this, that anyone hasn't already said, except for... *I'm gonna see Jewel!* *I'm gonna see Jewel!* ::cabbage patch:: ::running man:: *I'm gonna see Jewel!* ::sprinkler:: ::Mc Hammer:: *I'm gonna see Jewel!* ::kid-n-play:: ::road runner:: (oh wait that's my ISP not a cheesy 80's dance) :~ Hey! Did I tell you guys? I'm gonna see Jewel again? Woo Hoo! \ Is anyone else excited to see her (again) besides me!?!?! Is anyone else STILL excited that they just saw her (east coast)?!?! Let's here some more of those stories!! ya? May the force be with those of you that need it... :~ ciao! Melee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:16:04 -0500 From: "Kovacs, Mirinda" Subject: RE: [EDA] Jewel today I just have to say that the statement below is superb! I find it wonderful when a big name artist plays smaller venues. It shows that they are not in it just for the money. Sure, she could sell out huge arenas, but she is playing smaller venues to connect with her fans. It's not because she is a has been. :) Mi Rinda she's playing shows close to home, lets not forget she lives in California... and she usually plays a bunch of small solo acoustic shows there...to me, that isn't a lack of self respect, that ROCKS that an artist as big as her would be willing to play small places that usually do not get to see any big acts there. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:21:15 -0700 From: "Melissa Bruce" Subject: [EDA] 1st part NJR/2nd part re: wrong/messed up Jewel lyrics : ) NJR: Has anyone ever noticed, that when you do a spell check on the word "aahnold," it knows to suggest "arnold" like it gets the joke? ("it" being spell check... as if computer's have a sense of humor... I know I know computers can have a sense of humor too because people program them) lol This was not to offend anyone... it's just my lame sense of humor... and I was thinking about our (CA's) new governor Aahold and a lot of the magazine covers/newspapers that say "aahnold" and not arnold. anyway... ya. Jewel related: Has anyone ever sang a Jewel song wrong (like wrong lyrics) and either had someone correct them, or read the lyrics somewhere and be like, "*gasp!* I was singing that wrong the whole time?" ::sings:: Sov gett, vackra delfin... (spelling thanks to Angel Needs A Ride.com) funny to have that song stuck in your head for a few days, ya know? not knowing the language and all... I really butcher this one! ::singing:: sohoko nthe cracka fee, sohoko foya evinna tardy... see? so I just call it my cracker thief song (instead of Swedish lullaby) Ok, here are my messed up lyrics, because I mess up the whole song, I just put the whole song lol: "so go the cracker thief, so go leave me to be tardy, Me for sure, I'll clear Volandra clear Volandra Follati... so go the cracker thief so go leave me to be tardy More on 4, knock, though she said be she said be Follati... soooo gooo... ooon... oh dooooon't fear on I.... (ya none of it makes sense but whatever... at least I can keep tempo w/ the song!, listen to the song and read my lyrics, you'll see it fits lol :) ) Ok, your mish: post your funny lyrics! See if anyone made the same mistakes as you... or just laugh! it's fun : ) I'll post more of my messed up Jewel lyrics later (just the messed up lyrics part not the whole song) cause believe me... there are a lot of them that I have butchered through the years! lol! have fun w/ this! : ) it's better than arguing, right? ciao! Melee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Hall Subject: [EDA] EDA Mark Austin I agree whole heartly I agree Mark - with what you are saying, whole heartily. I wrote a big old letter last week and then changed my mind about sending it to y'all, I won't go into why I changed my mind but this one works, ok - so much for that on to Jewel - she is a very special soul and I am staying out of her business. I am a EDA from 1997 and always will be. Peace - Deb Hall - Higher Elevations Angel from Springdale,Washington Deborah Hall webmaster Higher Elevations Co. www.higherelevations.com higherel@yahoo.com A smile takes but a moment, the memory of it lasts forever. The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:09:16 EDT From: CleaningDuster@aol.com Subject: [EDA] jewel on aol cd Does anybody know anything abou this sessions@aol cd that is coming out tommorow and has jewel on it? You can listen to it today it says! Oh wait here i found the info: The cd is 11 and the jewel track is intuition with a bonus intuition video!! Chandini AOL Music: Sessions@AOL CD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:10:37 EDT From: SullMa84@aol.com Subject: [EDA] TRL Photo Booth on TV They are airing a special (right now actually!!) called TRL Uncensored #2. And they open it with Jewel's "session" in the TRL photo booth. Now I remember hearing about it through the list after it happened, but I thought it was just some friendly lil kissing. Hell no! Jewel lifts up her top, to expose her bare chest, at which Ty puts his lips all over:) Wow. They showed it, but censored of course. Yeah! x x x x x x x Request "Stand", the hot new, political single from Jewel! In My CD Player: Jewel -Intuition Dance Mixes (hit #1 on dance charts) Jason Mraz - Waiting for my Rocket to Come Simple Plan - No Pads, No Helmet, Just Balls Fav Song RN: "Top of the World" - By Dixie Chicks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:47:45 -0700 From: "Larry Greenfield" Subject: [EDA] Charity Auction for Jewel's new Acoustic Concerts Jewel has just set up a charity auction for front row tix and a "meet and greet" for her new west-coast swing of the acoustic tour. Info is at: http://jewel.stubhub.com/?cb=jewel - -=-Larry-=- ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #437 ***************************