From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #99 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, March 23 2003 Volume 08 : Number 099 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] Defending Jewel ["Mark Austin" ] RE: [EDA] Defending Jewel [Michiel ] [EDA] Another Question... [ReducedToYou@aol.com] [EDA] Re: SELL OUT? [JewelBlues@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Defending Jewel ["charlie zidon" ] [EDA] Selling Out ["charlie zidon" ] [EDA] FWD: JeweLink: March 23, 2003 [Mike Connell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:46:18 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: Re: [EDA] Defending Jewel I'm 100% with you, Steve. Great post! (Sorry for the one liner!!) Peace! Mark _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 19:07:25 +0100 From: Michiel Subject: RE: [EDA] Defending Jewel what does you convince that the next record of jewel after this intuition record will be accoustic!!! you can?t give any predications before jewel will mention this...... until then i believe that it is a gossip and not based on 100% facts... but i do agree with the defence of our angel jewel, the artist we all like and adore. bye michiel the dutch jewelfan - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-jewel@smoe.org [mailto:owner-jewel@smoe.org]Namens Stephen Hallowes Verzonden: zondag 23 maart 2003 8:19 Aan: jewel@smoe.org Onderwerp: [EDA] Defending Jewel Hey Guys I'm gonna take my usual position now... and put up a defense for all these posts talking about Jewel's new album and how you're all not too keen. Keep in mind, I understand a lot of what you're saying - and in *some* sense, I agree with you. I mean, I'm personally remaining very open-minded about the album, which is getting me very excited... but I can definitely see where you're coming from. This post is half my own personal beliefs, and half me playing devils advocate. Keep that in mind. I'm gonna divide this into parts... 1. The idea that Jewel is going more pop for commercial reasons: Just year and a half ago, Jewel released This Way saying she didn't want to conform to a formula for commercial success, and just wanted to release the music she liked. Why do you all assume that's changed? Just because she's veering away from the music *you* may like, doesn't mean she's selling out under the advice of her record company. To me, from the messages we've gotten from her, she sounds really excited and creatively juiced by this album. Her original explanation of why she's making the record, in my opinion, has a very solid artistic basis. I don't understand why you can't give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she's doing this for creative reasons, not commercial ones. As for Lester Mendez.... I know that pop producers are often the most talented and best at their craft. Pop songs require the most amount of expertise as far as production goes - particularly making a lot of those artists sound good. Imagine a guy with this much skill teaming up with someone who actually *has* talent. That's an amazing thing. Plus Jewel herself said she hasn't written songs this well with anyone since Steve Poltz - that should be enough for most of you to give the guy a chance. We were all a little worried when Dann Huff was announced as the producer on This Way - and yet that album wasn't country sounding at all. Jewel's musical influence is undoubtedly going to be more important than Lester Mendez's influence... it's his *skills* she's after, not his sound. 2. The idea that the lyrics are going to be meaningless: Jewel has said about 800 times that she's focussing as much on writing intelligent lyrics as she is on experimenting with the music. The lyrics to the new single seem to be all about following your heart and your intuition... a topic that isn't so different from a lot of what Jewel has written about before. Also, they seem interesting, creative and well-crafted. I'm personally looking forward to another 12-13 *new* songs with *new*, never before heard lyrics. 3. The idea that changing her music/image is a BAD thing. *How* is experimenting with her style a bad thing? You guys make it sound like she pulled off this masterplan by "drawing" everyone in with her acoustic-folksy music and then cleverly changing styles... bwahahaha. Experimenting is a GREAT thing and an absolute MUST for any artist that wants to grow. Think about it... Jewel has been writing in the same way since she was 16 - with her acoustic guitar. She needs to start branching out or she's just gonna become redundant. It's a natural course for her. Someone on this list said about this, "I now know how Bob Dylan fans must have felt when he went electric". But imagine if he hadn't gone electric? All the fantastic music we would've MISSED OUT on! Think about that. I'm not saying all of you are going to like the new album.... nor do you have to. But put that down to your own tastes, and not Jewel "selling out". Because the fact is, that's what this is about - your tastes. Jewel is just doing her thing. If you don't like it, don't accuse her of selling out to some commercial bar you think has been set by her record company. Just say "ok... this doesn't appeal to my taste, maybe the next album will" and go and make some hot chocolate. In conclusion, I have two things to say - first of all: This new album WILL help her as a musician, whether you like the music or not. What I mean is - experimenting, even if the result isn't appealing, is always a good thing... her music and her will be better for it. Also, if you do hate this next album, bask in the knowledge that the album after this is going to be solo acoustic. Steve. PS - I do think it's a good idea to reserve judgement until you've heard the music. I mean none of us have even heard the first single and we're accusing Jewel of "selling out"... it's jumping the gun a bit, don't you think? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:34:09 EST From: ReducedToYou@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Another Question... i'm noticing that people are titling their posts "Message To Jewel" and whatnot...does/can Jewel actually read what we're saying? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:16:28 EST From: JewelBlues@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: SELL OUT? OK--here is the dea lon SELL OUT: Some artists have NEVER sold out (SOLD OUT MEANS: Never written a song for purely COMMERCIAL/RADIO FRIENDLY reasons or endorsed a PRODUCT or Organization to Monetary Gain.....and are thus regarded as Rock Gods: Neil Young., Bob dylan, Joni Mitchell, Jackson Browne, Bruce Springsteen, somewhat Tori Amos. The list is short: a list of those who HAVE sold out is endless: Elton John < Rod Stewart, The Beatles(started OUT as a SELL OUT and turned into an ARTISTIC ONLY BAND--thats AMAZING--a reverse SELL OUT!!), The Rolling Stones,(In the 80'/s and 90's they SOLD OUT), BRITNEY, CHRISTINA, and all the other Pop girls. I have no definite opinion on Jewel til lthe new CD is released. JewelBlues@aol.com But the list can go on. I would be interested ina list of MORE WHO HAVE NOT SOLD OUT--EVER!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:39:07 +0000 From: "charlie zidon" Subject: Re: [EDA] Defending Jewel And the winner for best jewel fan DO DATE goes to... STEVEN HALLOWES!!!!!!!!!! AMAZING LETTER! I was thinking the EXACT things in my head, you just put it in writing before me:)! I LOVED IT! YOU ARE A TRUE Jewel fan! One of the few on this list that doesn't just want jewel to be who they want her to be! AMAZING.... I agree with your WHOLE letter! Charlie From: Stephen Hallowes To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] Defending Jewel Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:19:01 +1100 Hey Guys I'm gonna take my usual position now... and put up a defense for all these posts talking about Jewel's new album and how you're all not too keen. Keep in mind, I understand a lot of what you're saying - and in *some* sense, I agree with you. I mean, I'm personally remaining very open-minded about the album, which is getting me very excited... but I can definitely see where you're coming from. This post is half my own personal beliefs, and half me playing devils advocate. Keep that in mind. I'm gonna divide this into parts... 1. The idea that Jewel is going more pop for commercial reasons: Just year and a half ago, Jewel released This Way saying she didn't want to conform to a formula for commercial success, and just wanted to release the music she liked. Why do you all assume that's changed? Just because she's veering away from the music *you* may like, doesn't mean she's selling out under the advice of her record company. To me, from the messages we've gotten from her, she sounds really excited and creatively juiced by this album. Her original explanation of why she's making the record, in my opinion, has a very solid artistic basis. I don't understand why you can't give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she's doing this for creative reasons, not commercial ones. As for Lester Mendez.... I know that pop producers are often the most talented and best at their craft. Pop songs require the most amount of expertise as far as production goes - particularly making a lot of those artists sound good. Imagine a guy with this much skill teaming up with someone who actually *has* talent. That's an amazing thing. Plus Jewel herself said she hasn't written songs this well with anyone since Steve Poltz - that should be enough for most of you to give the guy a chance. We were all a little worried when Dann Huff was announced as the producer on This Way - and yet that album wasn't country sounding at all. Jewel's musical influence is undoubtedly going to be more important than Lester Mendez's influence... it's his *skills* she's after, not his sound. 2. The idea that the lyrics are going to be meaningless: Jewel has said about 800 times that she's focussing as much on writing intelligent lyrics as she is on experimenting with the music. The lyrics to the new single seem to be all about following your heart and your intuition... a topic that isn't so different from a lot of what Jewel has written about before. Also, they seem interesting, creative and well-crafted. I'm personally looking forward to another 12-13 *new* songs with *new*, never before heard lyrics. 3. The idea that changing her music/image is a BAD thing. *How* is experimenting with her style a bad thing? You guys make it sound like she pulled off this masterplan by "drawing" everyone in with her acoustic-folksy music and then cleverly changing styles... bwahahaha. Experimenting is a GREAT thing and an absolute MUST for any artist that wants to grow. Think about it... Jewel has been writing in the same way since she was 16 - with her acoustic guitar. She needs to start branching out or she's just gonna become redundant. It's a natural course for her. Someone on this list said about this, "I now know how Bob Dylan fans must have felt when he went electric". But imagine if he hadn't gone electric? All the fantastic music we would've MISSED OUT on! Think about that. I'm not saying all of you are going to like the new album.... nor do you have to. But put that down to your own tastes, and not Jewel "selling out". Because the fact is, that's what this is about - your tastes. Jewel is just doing her thing. If you don't like it, don't accuse her of selling out to some commercial bar you think has been set by her record company. Just say "ok... this doesn't appeal to my taste, maybe the next album will" and go and make some hot chocolate. In conclusion, I have two things to say - first of all: This new album WILL help her as a musician, whether you like the music or not. What I mean is - experimenting, even if the result isn't appealing, is always a good thing... her music and her will be better for it. Also, if you do hate this next album, bask in the knowledge that the album after this is going to be solo acoustic. Steve. PS - I do think it's a good idea to reserve judgement until you've heard the music. I mean none of us have even heard the first single and we're accusing Jewel of "selling out"... it's jumping the gun a bit, don't you think? , _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:38:39 +0000 From: "charlie zidon" Subject: [EDA] Selling Out This is only directed to certain people I think.... Some of you (SOME) are taking the "selling out" thing WAY to far!!! She is doing what SHE wants. Even if she is technically "selling out" don't you think if you were a musician that it would be fun to get more and more people to like you!? GIVE HER A BREAK! And if it is such a big deal to you, then you aren't much of a fan in the first place. I don't know about you, but I SUPPORT Jewel's decisions... Charlie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:52:26 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: [EDA] FWD: JeweLink: March 23, 2003 Here is the latest issue of JeweLink, directly from Jewel's "people", if you want to get a copy of this directly as each issue comes out, you can sub- scribe to it by sending a blank email to join-jewelink@list.jeweljk.com ******************************************** JeweLink - The Official Jewel Communications List ******************************************** In this edition of JeweLink: ***SOUTHLAKE 4/26 TICKETS UPDATE ***EXCLUSIVE XM RADIO JEWEL CONCERT! ***MICHAEL ESSANY SHOW UPDATE ***JEWEL TO APPEAR IN "IN STYLE" MAGAZINE ***"FOOLISH GAMES" INCLUDED ON "SONGBIRDS" CD ***SERVE THE EGO REMIXES AT JEWELJK.COM ***MUSIC QUEST SEMI-FINALISTS POSTED AT SCC! ******************************************** ***SOUTHLAKE 4/26 TICKETS UPDATE On Saturday, April 26th, Jewel will be headlining a benefit concert on the second night of the Art In The Square Festival in Southlake, Texas. Proceeds from this event are to be distributed among more than a dozen North Texas charities. A limited quantity of tickets will be made available to the public, beginning this coming Saturday morning, March 29th. We *think* tickets will be available through Ticketmaster, but check local (Southlake area) advertising for this event just the same. ******************************************** ***EXCLUSIVE XM RADIO JEWEL CONCERT! During their Women's History Month celebration, XM Satellite Radio will be broadcasting an extensive schedule of live concert recordings and Jewel is among the artists honored. Audio engineer, MrBB, produced an exclusive one-hour Jewel concert for XM listeners that will broadcast during their "Women On The March" All-Weekend-Finale. Tune in to channel "XMLive" next Saturday evening, March 29th at 9:00 p.m. est. It will broadcast again early Sunday, March 30th at 2:OO a.m. est. This exclusive Jewel concert will also be rebroadcast at numerous times during the first week of April. There's quite the lineup of concerts scheduled during next weekend's celebration - 48 concerts, 48 women in 48 hours! You can download the entire XM Live schedule by going here: http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=168 The material for the XM Live Jewel concert was recorded at one of the most memorable performances on her solo acoustic tour last year, at The Lowell Memorial Auditorium in Lowell, Massachusetts on November 15, 2002. ******************************************** ***MICHAEL ESSANY SHOW UPDATE Jewel's appearance on Michael Essany's new E Network show, which we previously mentioned may broadcast this month, will be delayed in airing. The show is scheduled to be edited in April and it may now air sometime closer to Jewel's album release. We'll keep you updated. ******************************************** ***JEWEL TO APPEAR IN "IN STYLE" MAGAZINE Jewel will appear in the June issue of "In Style" magazine in the Beauty Talk section. This issue hits newsstands toward the end of May. ******************************************** ***"FOOLISH GAMES" INCLUDED ON "SONGBIRDS" CD A 2CD compilation titled "Songbirds" is released in the UK tomorrow (March 24th) featuring some of the biggest hits by female artists over the past 30 years. Jewel's "Foolish Games" is included. ******************************************** ***SERVE THE EGO REMIXES AT JEWELJK.COM Want to shake your groove-thang? Two of the chart-topping "Serve the Ego" remixes are now posted on Jewel's home page for your dancing pleasure. Just make sure you push back the furniture before clicking the link--things could get broken. Yep, these are the mixes that shot to the top of the club charts last year, and sparked Jewel's passion for beat-based music, which she's exploring further on her new CD! Check them out at Jewel's home page or by going directly to: http://www.jeweljk.com/low/home.html The Atlantic Records CD maxi-single containing these "Serve The Ego" remixes and several additional remixes is available from the www.jeweljk.com store. ******************************************** ***MUSIC QUEST SEMI-FINALISTS POSTED AT SCC! The Music Quest Semi-Finalists are posted! Get over to Soul City Cafe's Music Quest page to see who survived the first two tiers of judging. An incredible list of talent has emerged from a massive submission pile and it looks like we're going to have a battle royale of bands (and solo artists) in the next few months! Check it out at: http://www.soulcitycafe.com/general.asp?cpg=artbeatupdate&cnm=contestm ******************************************** Jewel performance information and TV broadcast scheduling updates available 24 hours a day at: http://jeweljk.com/low/calendar.html ******************************************** - --- You can help a friend subscribe by having them send a blank email to join-jewelink@list.jeweljk.com To view selected back issues of JeweLink, please visit the JeweLink Archive at the www.jeweljk.com calendar page. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #99 **************************