From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #64 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, February 27 2003 Volume 08 : Number 064 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] jewel pics at wireimage.com ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA] NJC: Grammys [Minh Duong ] Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys [Dave0828@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys [GnG849@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys [Mc1Starr2000@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys ["Jewel Worshiper" ] [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video ["Mark Austin" ] Re: [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video [CackyH2@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video ["Fabio (wnet)" ] Re: [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video [CackyH2@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:17:29 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] jewel pics at wireimage.com wow, jewel looks increadibly wonderful in those recent pics at wireimage.com! i really love when she looks casual yet not casual... she just looks amazing. and there is also more of the pics of her with fred durst, owen wilson, luke wilson, and bruce willis. they look like they were having fun. its nice to see jewel out and about making friends ahahahahahahaha kidding. later, alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:56:54 -0800 (PST) From: Minh Duong Subject: [EDA] NJC: Grammy rebuttal My long and sarcastic diatribe on the article: >A lot of people are upset over Norah Jones winning > so much, believing that she doesn't deserve it. > That may or may not be true, but according to my > insider she was intentionally handpicked to win > it all. Why you ask? Simple... Was the source Deepthroat? Oh wait, he's dead. The trilateral commission is hard at work. > The Grammys were conceived not so much to award > quality music as it was to try to dictate the > direction of music. Er? Okay, this sounds like a blanket statement, but we'll see where it goes. > The board for this > year consisted of a number of angry executives > who don't like the "direction" music is heading > into. This may or may not be true, but the actual process goes something like this: Artists (or their representatives) register for award consideration. Small committees pick nominees out of that pool. The voting membership picks the winners. I don't know who these people are, but is it possible that a subvert group controls the choice of the winner? That depends on the number of voters and their profiles. For the Oscars that would be harder since the voting membership is 1500 people. Certainly a small group can influence the list of nominees and if voting membership is small, then this can happen. Considering that there are Grammys for practically every music category, the voting membership can't be small. > Believing they still have influence, they > picked out a collection of "classy" music headed by > Norah Jones and gave them all the awards. Their > intention in doing so was to try to change the > direction of music, to shift popular taste away from > the "trashy" music and back towards the music the > board prefers. The conspiracy continues! I suppose that they also sent in the "Smoking" man to ruin Michael Jackson. Personally, I never considered Eminem "classy" yet somehow he won a Grammy. I don't know about everyone else but I stopped listening to the radio years ago because of "trashy," overplayed music. But that is my opinion. Considering that Norah Jones has sold 7 million albums with very little airplay and mostly by word of mouth, it makes me wonder if those 7 million buyers feel the same way I do? > They're notorious for doing stuff > like that, that's why it took YEARS for Springstein > to win anything, why it took YEARS for the early > rock bands to win a Grammy, and why they would > showcase Simon and Garfunkel but wouldn't even > televise the R&B award. It takes years to win a Grammy? Who knew? I thought releasing an album would be enough. The Recording Academy represents a broad range of music from classical to rap and thus a broad range of people. Since they all vote in some categories, it takes time for an artist to be known much less rewarded for their work. Eminem will probably win in a few years when the members are more familiar with his work. Why did a newcomer like Norah win? Well, her album appeals to the most Academy voters because of its wide range of influences. Her album has elements of jazz, blues, country, and some pop. Certainly more voters would have heard her album unlike some of the other artists whose music is more category specific. Personally I think she is more talented than some of the other nomineess. Singer, song-writer, producer, piano player. That sounds like another winner: Alicia Keys. About televising the R&B award, there are 104 categories, so they can only televise 10-12 presentations. So if they televised the major music categories (not counting the performances), I figure the Grammys would last say six hours. They have to not televise some categories and some performances. > The joke among people just outside the inner circle > is that that board doesn't get it, and that for the > past several years, their plans have actually had > the opposite effect, as "hipper" awards like > those on MTV are more accurately setting the tone > for music, and people regard the Grammys as > being "lame," "boring" and "out of touch." The > board just doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that > they've completely lost any pull they MAY have once > had. Hipper? Anybody remember Milli Vanilli? They won a Grammy. They were hip. They were frauds, but they were hip. Wait, I thought the awards were about "quality" music. Nothing in the description says anything about hip. If you want hip watch the People's Choice awards or the American Music Awards or MTV Awards. Really doesn't the whole article sound like a bunch of sour grapes. Whoever wrote is clearly upset that their favorite didn't win. My question to that person is: So what? Winning a Grammy may give more press to an artist, but the amount of respect or prestige that artist receives from a fan is clearly decided by the fan. Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:57:06 -0800 (PST) From: Minh Duong Subject: [EDA] NJC: Grammys I guess every year about this time, I hear grumblings about Grammys and who SHOULD have won. Here are my two cents about the whole thing: 1) I am not surprised that Norah Jones won so many awards. I think she should have won. 2) Everyone has opinions about who they wanted to win. They are entitled to their opinions. 3) Not everyone is a voting member of Recording Academy so their opinions (and mine) about who should win don't count in the Grammy voting. 4) Regardless of the Grammys do you love your music any less if it didn't win Sunday? No? Then that's all that matters. The Grammys don't speak for everyone, and only you can speak for you. Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:30:42 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys Unfortunately the Grammys have become almost nothing more than a popularity contest. This is due in large part to the fact that it is now a television event. While there may be great work being made with far more artistic credibility or what have you, they aren't going to televise an award show that no one is going to watch because they haven't heard of the nominees or performers. The general public is going to watch because they are going to see people that they know. If you check the major critics top ten lists for last year you'll see almost none of the artists who were nominated on any of the lists. You'll see acts like Wilco and Patty Griffin. Until these artists are household names they're not going to be on the show. It's not right, it's not wrong, it's just the way it is. The Grammys are much less an award show than it is a television program at this point. It's about ratings and advertising dollars. Since when did real artists guarantee that? Mostly after they were dead. Later, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:46:53 EST From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys The Grammys are mainly for mainstreem artists which really sucks. Tori or Ani are never even nominated. But I'm really happy Norah Jones won so many awards. And I really liked the performances this year. I'm also happy No Doubt won something. Just because I'm a big fan. I really think Jewel, Tori, and Ani should have been nominated. I hope next year people will start to see that there is better music out there. You just have to listen for it. love megan, the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:55:47 EST From: Mc1Starr2000@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys In a message dated 2/26/2003 12:52:30 PM Central Standard Time, GnG849@aol.com writes: > > The Grammys are mainly for mainstreem artists which really sucks. Tori or > Ani > are never even nominated. But I'm really happy Norah Jones won so many > awards. And I really liked the performances this year. I'm also happy No > Doubt won something. Just because I'm a big fan. I really think Jewel, > Tori, > and Ani should have been nominated. I hope next year people will start to > see > that there is better music out there. You just have to listen for it. umm..my opinion...FUCK THE GRAMMYS! - -Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:12:09 -0800 From: "Jewel Worshiper" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys lmao!! i agree! :) - --Jewel Worshiper-- http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven/pale_shade_of_grey.html (my Jewel Page) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jewel is GOD WWJD --- What Would Jewel Do "the hardest thing in the world is to live in it" ~buffy "cheerleaders are dancers who have gone retarded" ~bring it on >From: Mc1Starr2000@aol.com >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Grammys >Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:55:47 EST > >In a message dated 2/26/2003 12:52:30 PM Central Standard Time, >GnG849@aol.com writes: > > > > > The Grammys are mainly for mainstreem artists which really sucks. Tori >or > > Ani > > are never even nominated. But I'm really happy Norah Jones won so many > > awards. And I really liked the performances this year. I'm also happy No > > Doubt won something. Just because I'm a big fan. I really think Jewel, > > Tori, > > and Ani should have been nominated. I hope next year people will start >to > > see > > that there is better music out there. You just have to listen for it. > >umm..my opinion...FUCK THE GRAMMYS! >-Tanya _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 22:53:55 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video Hey everyone! While everyone is busy smiting the grammys, etc. I thought I'd start a new topic for ourselves(I havn't been posting much lately either!) So, this has probably been done, but what is your favorite Jewel music video??? Its VERY hard for me to choose, You Were Meant For Me, Break Me, they all seem to stick out to me. Well, I bought a DVD player today! At Wal-Mart for 100 dollars, and I must say, it rocks my socks! I put a CD-R I had filled with Jewel mpeg files in it, and it seemed to make the quality better than the computer, and the sound as well! Anyways, the video for Jupiter came on, and there's just something about it that I love. Jewel is beautiful looking; very beautiful, the song is just magic and full of love, and the actual video content was really cool. Just a really magical video. I love it! Peace, Mark p.s. Were we all putting down the grammys back when Jewel got nominated? Yeah, she was more popular back then, and I agree its a popularity contest these days. But I guess one million records isn't enough! hehe, I still love her more than ever, the grammys don't matter. Lets forget about it. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 22:08:52 EST From: CackyH2@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video In a message dated 2/26/2003 9:25:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, markisaustin@hotmail.com writes: > Anyways, the video for Jupiter came on, and there's just something about it > that I love. > Jewel is beautiful looking; very beautiful, the song is just magic and full > > of love, and the actual video content was really cool. Just a really > magical > video. I love it! > > The jupiter video is probably my favorite too. That, and Down So Long. The direction of those two are so captivating and amazing. And, then there are the facts that the songs are great. That could have a lot to do with it - -Katie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:31:08 -0300 From: "Fabio (wnet)" Subject: Re: [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video Totally, I love the direction of Down So Long. It's really good. But my favorite is Break Me. I like it a lot. Fabio > The jupiter video is probably my favorite too. That, and Down So Long. > > The direction of those two are so captivating and amazing. And, then there > are the facts that the songs are great. That could have a lot to do with it > > -Katie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 22:31:15 EST From: CackyH2@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Favorite Jewel Video In a message dated 2/26/2003 10:29:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, fjjordao@wnetrj.com.br writes: > Totally, I love the direction of Down So Long. It's really good. > > But my favorite is Break Me. I like it a lot. > > Fabio I liked Break Me as well. But..I don't like the album version of the song. Erm, did anyone here see the Shakira video "The One"? Well, in the video -- peoples faces fade into someone else like in the "Break Me" video. That bugged me. I'm a big Shakira fan. But, it bugged me. - -Katie ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #64 **************************