From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #544 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, December 17 2002 Volume 07 : Number 544 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] jewels religion ["now and zen girl" ] Re: [EDA] jewels religion [Mikajewel@cs.com] Re: [EDA] jewels religion [Dave0828@aol.com] [EDA] Life or something like it ["Jewel Worshiper" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel & christianity... [Dave0828@aol.com] [EDA] NJC:Sarah Mclachlan [GnG849@aol.com] [EDA] Re: jewelc Christmas Album [GAMGRIFF@aol.com] Re: [EDA] jewels religion ["Mark Austin" ] Re: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT?? [Pablo Subject: [EDA] jewels religion jewel has no religion. she has told us this for quite some time. she was mormon till she was 8, then she was just in her own beliefs. shes like me. and i like xmas songs too, and im the farthest thing from religious, and i speak of god as well, but he is not your god. and jewels god is not your god im sure. she has spoke of this several times actually. and about the whole xmas cd thing, she didnt do it for money, spirit was originally meant to be an xmas cd of all original xmas songs, but she found that to be too hard, hands was one of the songs though. but it was really hard so she decided to put out spirit as a normal cd and then make a cd of traditional xmas songs. she did it for the fun of it, cus she likes xmas songs. get off the whole money thing, cant anyone do anything for the art of the fun of it? alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:19:47 EST From: Mikajewel@cs.com Subject: Re: [EDA] jewels religion In a message dated 12/15/02 10:16:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, lemming523@hotmail.com writes: > get off the whole money thing, cant anyone > do anything for the art of the fun of it? alisa Yeah. I think Jewel does a lot for the fun of it! Good to see in today's world! Stephen The Everyday Speedy Angel "...losing is not always a disaster. If you know how to lose, you can become a great champion." ~Mika Hakkinen (Luxembourg 1998) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:31:54 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] jewels religion Yep - pretty much where myself and most people I know stand on it. It's all about a belief in something greater than yourself. It can pretty much be whatever you want it to be - as long as you know that it's not you. It's more about spirituality than religion. And, that's probably what Jewel has. But, I don't really know that we need a large theological debate. So that's just about all I'm going to say about that. Later, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:55:17 -0800 From: "Jewel Worshiper" Subject: [EDA] Life or something like it well... i just was posting that i finally saw this movie! It was really good! :) They should have put a longer clip of This Way in it though! ;) They played almost the entire song on Enough. Oh, and im glad they used the Album Version. Thats my favorite :) Anyway... does anyone else agree that they should have used Britney Spears version of the song "i can't get no satisfaction" or whatever its called, rather than the rollingstones? i think so! ;) - --Jewel Worshiper-- http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven/pale_shade_of_grey.html (my Jewel Page) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jewel is GOD WWJD --- What Would Jewel Do "the hardest thing in the world is to live in it" ~buffy "cheerleaders are dancers who have gone retarded" ~bring it on ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:42:36 EST From: DPS8315@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel & christianity... I think that songs like "Jesus Loves You" with lines like: "They say that you're only half-alive / Until you give extra whitening a try / Well I wanna see" and: Gonna pay a priest for a will-you-give-me-a-second-chance? They say abortion will send you straight to a fiery hell That is if the fanatics don't beat Satan to the kill - -Pretty much flies in the face of christianity in general doesn't it? Now personally I would surmise Jewel is a fairly true to her own spirituality kinda girl, so I don't think that she would write songs like these, that seem to be about herself, and still consider herself "christian" I want to cast my vote for thinking Jewel is not a sellout for doing Joy... Christmas is commercial for lots of Americans and I dont see why it shouldnt be for her as well. On a personal note, I think that one of the reasons I first got interested in Jewel was because WWSYS seemed quite politically and religiously charged for a popular debut. James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:11:46 +0100 From: "Floris Bos" Subject: [EDA] Sharing cover art Hi all, I've been trading and as a result of that I now have many shows on cd. However I don't have covers for all of them. I made some covers but due the the large amount of this costs I just made a few. I assume that more of you face this problem. Therefore I suggest that we do some cover sharing/trading. So if you made any covers and you're willing to share them please let me know. I of course will share the covers I made myself. I made them using Adobe Photoshop. I noticed that there quite a lot people with a website. Is there someone who wants to host covers on his/her website? That would be the ideal way to share covers I guess. - - Floris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Zoeken, voor duidelijke zoekresultaten! http://search.msn.nl/worldwide.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:28:16 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel & christianity... I believe that those lines and that song are much more in the context of a statement about our society and religion - saying that they have religious connotations as well is likely taking them out of their intended context. But, that's just my opinion. I may be wrong. Later, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:58:02 -0500 From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NJC:Sarah Mclachlan Does anyone know what Sarah Mclachlan is up to these days? I heard she had baby but I'm not sure if that's true. I know she was taking time off. But I wonder if she's ever going to do the Lilith Fair thing again. I hope so. Love Megan, the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:57:51 EST From: GAMGRIFF@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: jewelc Christmas Album In a message dated 12/15/2002 9:38:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: << Her Christmas album is one great example. >Put Classic Christmas songs on there, when you don't even believe in Jesus. > These songs touch people, they like them, and jewel is $$$$ on them. I >don't agree with that, but in this Capitalist society we live in, its all >about the Money. Which is sad. I want to see Jewel and others sing about >what they believe in, what they are passionate about. Not just put some >tracks together that will make them money. Which by exploiting Jesus Christ >like this, Jewel has done..... She is a spiritual person, but is not a >Christian, from what we have learned. > Jewel has said that from a business stand point a Christmas album does not make sense. You never get your money back, but it was a fun thing and that is why she made it. Jewel does not believe in any one religion, thats true. Neither do I,but I enjoy Christmas....John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:33:08 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: Re: [EDA] jewels religion you said: and >jewels god is not your god im sure is that necesarilly true? Ok, Jewel is not christian, more so just "spiritual" I guess. But if we are all believing in a higher being, what says that its not the same one? My point of view that all religions in some way believe in the higher being, and nothing really says its a different one. I'm not sure how to explain how I feel, but, perhaps every religion that has a higher being is just worshipping the same one? All religions focus on one single idea, the golden rule, which is "do on to others as you would have them do to you." There are many other similarities as well. So what says that we arent all worshipping the same god? Dont know if I got that across properly so yeah ;p peace, Mark Oh by the way hotmail must be really messed up this time of the year. If they are going to host millions of e-mails, they should be able to do it without me getting a "server too busy" message. Half of my e-mails havnt even been getting out recently!!! oh. I got it twice in a row too. I need to get a pay email or anything mroe reliable. Is yahoo any good for mail? >From: "now and zen girl" >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] jewels religion >Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:15:38 +0000 > >jewel has no religion. she has told us this for quite some time. she >was mormon till she was 8, then she was just in her own beliefs. shes >like me. and i like xmas songs too, and im the farthest thing from >religious, and i speak of god as well, but he is not your god. and >jewels god is not your god im sure. she has spoke of this several times >actually. and about the whole xmas cd thing, she didnt do it for money, >spirit was originally meant to be an xmas cd of all original xmas songs, >but she found that to be too hard, hands was one of the songs though. >but it was really hard so she decided to put out spirit as a normal cd >and then make a cd of traditional xmas songs. she did it for the fun of >it, cus she likes xmas songs. get off the whole money thing, cant anyone >do anything for the art of the fun of it? alisa > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:10:58 -0500 From: Pablo Subject: Re: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT?? I think she said her mom was evangelist and she must heve been at that time... check the lyrics of that song for her little long-lost brother Nikos... me, myself and noone else... Pablo on 15/12/02 14:52, Mark Austin at markisaustin@hotmail.com wrote: > Hey everyone, > Jewel is not Christian? Are you really sure about that? I don't think making > a holiday album is selling out either... > Well, can someone verify the religion thing? Jewel is constantly mentioning > god (no god in specific) or anything, and was Mormon until she was 8. So, > someone let us know! > > Mark > > >> From: "kevin maguire" >> Reply-To: kevin.maguire@excite.com >> To: jewel@smoe.org >> Subject: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT >> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:30:34 -0500 (EST) >> >> SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! HO! Its all about the Money.....Jewel is no fool. >> And is that wrong? Or just Smart? She has sold out somewhat, but i >> believe lots of artist do that. Her Christmas album is one great example. >> Put Classic Christmas songs on there, when you don't even believe in Jesus. >> These songs touch people, they like them, and jewel is $$$$ on them. I >> don't agree with that, but in this Capitalist society we live in, its all >> about the Money. Which is sad. I want to see Jewel and others sing about >> what they believe in, what they are passionate about. Not just put some >> tracks together that will make them money. Which by exploiting Jesus Christ >> like this, Jewel has done..... She is a spiritual person, but is not a >> Christian, from what we have learned. >> I still Love Jewel, and her talent, and her music..... But just a little >> sad she is not as true as i thought.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:44:01 EST From: JeWeLNuMbEr1FaN@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] jewels religion Why does it matter if Jewel is Christian or not? I personally believe what I wanna believe, i do believe in God but I'm not really sure if I agree with everything in the bible....Jewel is "spiritual" yea everyone has said that like 100 times, but she hasn't ever said what she believes i dont think...anyway, i agree with Mark, how do we know if we aren't worshipping the same God, we dont know what she believes in, that'd be a good question to ask her if we got to interview her, rather than lingerie questions ;) ~michele ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:03:56 EST From: StuartnDee@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel's answer about religion. Remember when we asked Jewel 10 questions? Mr.BB posted her answer about religion. Here it is. -Dee EDA Question: I was wondering what are your own spiritual beliefs? Jewel's Answer: I wasn't raised with any particular religion. I was concieved, however, in a fit of Mormon passion........which I find amusing. But I wasn't particularly raised with any religion and I guess I'm kind of I'm thankful for that. I've studied all religions and I find them to be very similar. I find more similarities than I do differences. I, like many people, of course find it grevious that so many wars are fought over the differences. I believe in God. I don't neccessarily think that means some guy in the sky watching you. I was raised on the land where you can't help but feel theres something bigger than you out there. And I like that. I like knowing that. I like having my little place in it. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V7 #544 ***************************