From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #542 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, December 15 2002 Volume 07 : Number 542 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Re: ANWA ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA]- re: ANWA ["~* Venus Aphrodite*~" ] [EDA]- Jumping on or off? the band wagon ["~* Venus Aphrodite*~" ] [EDA] hotmail problems ["Amy Emerman" ] Re: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT?? ["Mark Austin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 07:33:41 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] Re: ANWA i LOVE ANWA! i have read it so many times, and have way too many favorites, one that always sticks out for some reasong is sara said, i just love that one. oh and shush is another that is probably my absolute favorite, and probably the only i have forever memorized in my head. its funny that some people think it is a huge thing to have read this entire book. i have read this book so many times and chasing down the dawn. i own like 7 harbacks, 2 paperbacks, and 1 childrens addition of ANWA and 2 copies of chasing down the dawn, and nedras book! ok i have multiples partly cus my dad is in the book business, but i wont let him sell them haha. anyway... alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:06:28 +1100 From: "~* Venus Aphrodite*~" Subject: [EDA]- re: ANWA well I have read ANWA. Even had i not been a Jewel fan I still wouldda read it, cuz I like reading poetry and writing my own!. My fave... I like Wild Horse and same as Shawney I also like Parking Lot. It's been awhile so I can't remember any others. I am re-reading CDTD @ the mo' cuz I came across the audio I got from a rep at my old work (a bookstore) that I had never bothered to listen to. It's nice to hear her reading something.. other than singing etc. I listened to it at night B4 bed so it was like having her read me to sleep *lol* Getting off the subject a little.... I would love to hear Jewel do another few songs with her mummy. But more along the lines of Face of Love or Little Bird, other than just backing vocals on Hands. One more thing I was reading the sleeve of the new silverchair album and they mentioned how the album was made without using some software ( I don't remember the name) pitch software or the like. Anywho they said that it is software that corrects the pitch of the recording and they believe it ruins the feel. Does anyone know if Jewel does or doesn't use this software?. Just curious. Caro the Noosa Angel _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:53:57 +1100 From: "~* Venus Aphrodite*~" Subject: [EDA]- Jumping on or off? the band wagon ok well it's kinda on the subject.... forgive me for being vague!. My attention span has been known to match that of a goldfish memory at times (for those who don't know a goldfish has the memory of 3 secs)so I may get off the trail of things. You've been warned. I just had a look at those pics of Jewel at Jingle Ball and WOW! like Amy said you could almost consider changing teams *lol* Anywhoo what I would like to say is that Jewel is looking so f**king bewdiful, one hot sheila hahaha. In CDTD Jewel mentions quite a bit how, like a lot of girls, she was an akward looking teen. Not to say that she was ugly, but man she gets better with age. She even says how she couldn't get a guy to look at her even if she'd set her self on fire at Interlochen. So it's not quite the story of the ugly duckling, but you get the gist. I think she will age gracefully. While it is hard to tell these days I think that Livvy (Olivia Newton John) and Susan Sarandon look great for their age. They don't look all plasticy. I am so proud of Jewel, with that winning smile in those pics she is happy. Not just performing, but by wearing those outfits she no longer feels akward. And she looks amazing. I think it's great that a woman can be sensual, not necessarily sexual, but comfortable with the way she looks and it shows that she is. And the lingerie dealy I think that it's great that she spends money on it. It doesn't have to be tarty which some (not you per say) think. I have some great lingerie, picked out by my man and I love parading around it for him, but it makes me feel good too. I wouldn't want to see her doing something tacky like playboy, but I think something done artfully can drive a man nuts imagining, not visualising. I hope all this makes sense if not e-mail me privately, spare the list!. Caro the Noosa Angel _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:30:34 -0500 (EST) From: "kevin maguire" Subject: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! HO! Its all about the Money.....Jewel is no fool. And is that wrong? Or just Smart? She has sold out somewhat, but i believe lots of artist do that. Her Christmas album is one great example. Put Classic Christmas songs on there, when you don't even believe in Jesus. These songs touch people, they like them, and jewel is $$$$ on them. I don't agree with that, but in this Capitalist society we live in, its all about the Money. Which is sad. I want to see Jewel and others sing about what they believe in, what they are passionate about. Not just put some tracks together that will make them money. Which by exploiting Jesus Christ like this, Jewel has done..... She is a spiritual person, but is not a Christian, from what we have learned. I still Love Jewel, and her talent, and her music..... But just a little sad she is not as true as i thought.... RE: Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 01:15:56 ESTFrom: DPS8315@aol.comSubject: [EDA] The Dirty behind SCC contests...My ThoughtsI want to applaud this:> A contest like this one is extremely difficult to administrate and the costs> and potential liabilities are huge - imagine the upkeep of this website> alone. There is no way that she is going to pay for this contest from> increased record sales. You will also notice that artists who have sold> 10,000 albums or more are not eligible, so any artist with enough fans to> really have an effect on Jewel's career (which by the way is doing fine)> can't participate in this anyway. It is far more likely that the artist(s)> chosen for the contest are going to be terrible than it is that he/she/they> will be so good that they boost up Jewel's career. From looking at the> list, it seems like they have done a pretty good job of choosing all kinds> of different artists, many of them very eclectic with little commercial> potential.But add this:I actually gave a lot of thought myself to the potential "behind-the-scenes" motives the Jewel team might have with everything that is Soul City Cafe... I don't think they're using it to promote Jewel's musical career, but I do think there's some huge money making potential.Consider this: Jewel has two albums left with Atlantic, correct? If she puts out one this spring and then a compilation of live appearances or other unreleased songs, she's out of her contract. She's already started a movie production company, and to the outside eye I think it's completely plausible that she's trying to build momentum for a possible launch of her own record label- not only to produce her own albums, but to sign all of these great-potential-money-makers (present and future Soul City Cafers) to her new label... and to make a killing off of the one or two that make it big.Is she that devious or ill-intentioned? I seriously doubt it... but it's definately an angle to be looked at.James The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:31:55 -0500 (EST) From: "kevin maguire" Subject: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! HO! Its all about the Money.....Jewel is no fool. And is that wrong? Or just Smart? She has sold out somewhat, but i believe lots of artist do that. Her Christmas album is one great example. Put Classic Christmas songs on there, when you don't even believe in Jesus. These songs touch people, they like them, and jewel is $$$$ on them. I don't agree with that, but in this Capitalist society we live in, its all about the Money. Which is sad. I want to see Jewel and others sing about what they believe in, what they are passionate about. Not just put some tracks together that will make them money. Which by exploiting Jesus Christ like this, Jewel has done..... She is a spiritual person, but is not a Christian, from what we have learned. I still love Jewel, her music her talent, her style.... but just a little Sad, she is not as true as i thought... km RE: Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 01:15:56 ESTFrom: DPS8315@aol.comSubject: [EDA] The Dirty behind SCC contests...My ThoughtsI want to applaud this:> A contest like this one is extremely difficult to administrate and the costs> and potential liabilities are huge - imagine the upkeep of this website> alone. There is no way that she is going to pay for this contest from> increased record sales. You will also notice that artists who have sold> 10,000 albums or more are not eligible, so any artist with enough fans to> really have an effect on Jewel's career (which by the way is doing fine)> can't participate in this anyway. It is far more likely that the artist(s)> chosen for the contest are going to be terrible than it is that he/she/they> will be so good that they boost up Jewel's career. From looking at the> list, it seems like they have done a pretty good job of choosing all kinds> of different artists, many of them very eclectic with little commercial> potential.But add this:I actually gave a lot of thought myself to the potential "behind-the-scenes" motives the Jewel team might have with everything that is Soul City Cafe... I don't think they're using it to promote Jewel's musical career, but I do think there's some huge money making potential.Consider this: Jewel has two albums left with Atlantic, correct? If she puts out one this spring and then a compilation of live appearances or other unreleased songs, she's out of her contract. She's already started a movie production company, and to the outside eye I think it's completely plausible that she's trying to build momentum for a possible launch of her own record label- not only to produce her own albums, but to sign all of these great-potential-money-makers (present and future Soul City Cafers) to her new label... and to make a killing off of the one or two that make it big.Is she that devious or ill-intentioned? I seriously doubt it... but it's definately an angle to be looked at.James The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:34:18 -0500 (EST) From: "kevin maguire" Subject: [EDA] New Artist Jewel and Soul City, and planning out her Record Empire....I want a piece of that Rock too! i have a few friends that are very talented musicians. And i am seriously trying to help them make it to the next level. I love their music, and really believe in their talent. I looked a little at soul city, but its kinda hard to figure out how to sign up. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:03:44 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: [EDA] hotmail problems Yeah, I've been having lots of hotmail problems recently. It's time for a REAL email address. ACtually, Mike, maybe you can subscribe me to the jewel list from my aol address freckledangel@aol.com WOuld that be possible or do I have to go through the usual route? Thanks Amy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:22:30 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: Re: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT?? Hey everyone, Jewel is not Christian? Are you really sure about that? I don't think making a holiday album is selling out either... Well, can someone verify the religion thing? Jewel is constantly mentioning god (no god in specific) or anything, and was Mormon until she was 8. So, someone let us know! Mark >From: "kevin maguire" >Reply-To: kevin.maguire@excite.com >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT >Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:30:34 -0500 (EST) > >SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! HO! Its all about the Money.....Jewel is no fool. >And is that wrong? Or just Smart? She has sold out somewhat, but i >believe lots of artist do that. Her Christmas album is one great example. >Put Classic Christmas songs on there, when you don't even believe in Jesus. > These songs touch people, they like them, and jewel is $$$$ on them. I >don't agree with that, but in this Capitalist society we live in, its all >about the Money. Which is sad. I want to see Jewel and others sing about >what they believe in, what they are passionate about. Not just put some >tracks together that will make them money. Which by exploiting Jesus Christ >like this, Jewel has done..... She is a spiritual person, but is not a >Christian, from what we have learned. >I still Love Jewel, and her talent, and her music..... But just a little >sad she is not as true as i thought.... > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:27:54 -0500 From: beetlebugangelvw@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] RE: The Dirty behind SCC contests. SELL OUT?? In a message dated 12/15/2002 2:52:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, markisaustin@hotmail.com writes: > Jewel is constantly mentioning > god (no god in specific) or anything, and was Mormon until > she was 8. Just b/c she mentions "god" doesn't mean she's Christian...she could be Pagan or Wiccan...I am Pagan and have a god (and a goddess); I was raised Catholic, but that doesn't mean I have those beliefs...being raised a certain way doesn't mean you are that way. ANyhow, I'm not trying to start anything, just sharing my thoughts on this. And even though I'm not Christian...I love singing and listening to Christmas songs! LoL Gina ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:58:17 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: Re: [EDA] responses to emails Hey, I'd hate to keep this topic going but anyways, You are very very right, I really should've sent it to that person in specific if I was going to single them out... I was really tired and in a bad mood that night because of the past weeks events I've experienced. I feel more and more like an ass and really sorry about sending it to begin with. I expressed how I felt about something in a horrible mannor that wasn't even me. Again, I'm very very sorry for phrasing it that way and singling out, and at least when people look back at the archives they will see that too. But the main reason I'm continuing this topic is that one thing about that post bugged me. I'm not sure if what you meant this towards the whole thread, someone elses post, or just my e-mail in particular but I didn't consider it hate mail. I done hate anyone, and in the e-mail I also said I was sorry for being harsh and that I'm sure he was a great person. I also stated that he was probably one of the biggest Jewel fans ever. So yeah, it was harsh, but I wouldn't call it hate mail. Again, I don't hate one soul on this world, and do not feel hate towards anyone. I just blew a little beef I had with one thing someone did out of proporsion and wasn't too friendly about it. I know some bad replies came out of this and I'm sorry I caused that. So yeah. I'm still really sorry and wish I never sent it to be begin with. So ok. Unless I feel like I have to respond to something else about this again, I will try to forget about all this and only learn to be a better person from this bad experience. I'm really really sorry again, and didn't mean to hurt anyone. Michiel, I'm very very very sorry, I don't hate you at all, and wish I did things differently, and not so immaturely. Nothing about your posts on liking Jewel or fantasizing or anything disturbed me or really bothered me, and I'm sorry and asshamed if I ever came across that way before. I just wanted to hear a little more of your enthusiasm focused on her music and art... But keep saying whatever you want, don't change just for one person. I'm also sorry for sending it to the whole list. Again, I think you're a great person and a huge fan and supporter of everything about Jewel, music/art and her person as a whole. Im sorry. Peace, Mark >From: "Elizabeth Nguyen" >Reply-To: porkch0p31@jewel.zzn.com >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] responses to emails >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:05:03 -0800 > >Hey everyone. Haven't had time to read many of the posts lately >because of tests and all, but I have glanced at some of them. I'm >not going to say who's "side" I'm on or anything. I just have one >thing to say. If you have a response that is to one or two >particular people, can we just send it to that SPECIFIC person? If >you're addressing just one person, why make it a public notice? I >know, I wouldn't like to get have my hate mail (hehe .. wait, I >don't get real hate mail .. just hate email ;-) ) put on display for >everyone to see. It's bad enough to get flames in the first place. >It's just embarrassing to have everyone see it too. It's one thing >to share a story, or ask a question or contribute to a conversation, >but when it's strictly a response to one or two people, just send it >to them please. Plus, people must remember these emails will stay >in the archives forever and ever. Do you want people to look >through years later and say, "my goodness, this person said this and >that?" Yeah .. there is no real point to this post I suppose. >Anyway, I hope everyone is doing well. I, unfortunately, have had a >total of 7 hours of sleep for 4 days. Ergh ... > >Elizabeth, the tennis-ball-whacking angel > > >Thus conscience does make >cowards of us all; >And thus the native hue of >resolution >Is sicklied o'er with the >pale cast of thought > - >Shakespeare, "Hamlet" >Perfect for the Jewel Kilcher Fan! Get your Free E-mail at >http://jewel.zzn.com >___________________________________________________________ >Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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