From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #498 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, November 17 2002 Volume 07 : Number 498 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan ["jake skyles" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan ["now and zen girl" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:23:04 -0500 From: "jake skyles" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan What I'm trying to say is there is a difference from saying it to your gay friends, or in a song like Pieces of you, and saying it in the context she did, calling someone a fag who is not, in front of thousands of her fans. We have established she was joking, and that she said she liked gays or whatever, I still don't think she should have said it the way she did. Jake >From: "Jewel Worshiper" >To: Jewel@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan >Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 16:05:10 -0800 > >>>You give a word its meaning by censoring it. The word is just a word. >>>And it is only offensive if it is meant in an offensive way.<< > >this is true. i mean... just look at the guys on Queer As Folk. They call >each other 'fag' all the time and it doesn't matter. --Thats a Great show, >by the way! Can't wait till season 2 comes out on DVD! :) > > > >--Jewel Worshiper-- >http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven/pale_shade_of_grey.html >(my Jewel Page) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Jewel is GOD >WWJD --- What Would Jewel Do > >"the hardest thing in the world is to live in it" ~buffy > > > > > >>From: Mc1Starr2000@aol.com >>To: jewel@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan >>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:08:45 EST >> >>In a message dated 11/15/2002 5:47:58 PM Central Standard Time, >>eggsnpancakes2@yahoo.com writes: >> >> > Agreed! This is one of the most offensive words in the english >>language. >> > She's stooping as low as Eminem now. Ick. Whether it was a joke or not >>-- >> > I'm sure not too many people found it funny. >> >> You give a word its meaning by censoring it. The word is just a >>word. >> And it is only offensive if it is meant in an offensive way. Telling >>people >>not to use the word will make it hurt twice as much when someone does use >>it. >> If everyone decided to use the word fag all the time and use it in >>different >>ways, then soon it will no longer apply simply to gay people and it will >>no >>longer carry as much meaning. If radio and TV stopped censoring all >>together, using cuss words would no longer be fun. If no one took them to >>be >>offensive, then they would lose their value. If you know someone who >>never >>curses and they use one of those words one day, think of how much more >>weight >>it carries than someone who uses some cuss word in every sentence. I >>think >>that Jewel making a joke of the word could be taken in a hurtful way. >>Especially when so many people do take it seriously. However, I doubt >>that >>any person in the audience felt personally insulted by her using it. >>Because >>Jewel has nothing against gays. If you find the word itself offensive, no >>matter how it's used, then YOU are the one making it hurtful and >>meaningful. >> Another thing is that Eminem does not stoop low. Everything he >>says >>and does is to make a statement. It may not appear that way, but think of >>how many people love him. No one in their right mind would love someone >>who >>insults every single possible category. Unless they understand his point. >>He insults everyone! I am included in many of the categories that he >>insults. But I take no offense to them. Think about it, what do people >>still find offensive? Insulting homosexuals and women. People still make >>a >>big deal out of that. So that is who he insults. He has so many gay fans >>and they are fans because they understand what he's trying to do. I'm a >>fan >>of his and I do not put up with people who seriously have something >>against >>homosexuals. I think anyone who does is ignorant. And many of his fans >>probably agree with me. If you don't understand him or take offense to >>him, >>you are proving his point. >> Okay, I am done now with my little speech. I hope that people are >>able to understand what I'm saying. >>Thanks, >>Tanya > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:53:26 -0500 From: "Stacy" Subject: [EDA] Fort Lauderdale pictures does anyone have some pictures from the June 15, 2002 Broward Center For The Performing Arts, Fort Lauderdale, Florida show? she was wearing a green halter top and that denim mini? if so can you please send me some files of them, thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 05:06:23 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan THANK YOU AND GREAT POST TO TANYA!!!!! i couldnt have said it better, i agreed with every single word! thanks alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:15:51 -0500 From: shawn e williams Subject: [EDA] NJC: need some advice sorry to post this on here, but i don't know what to do. friday at school, umm i got drunk at school. i got caught and blew a .08. i told them that someone gave me a bottle of orange juice and that i didn't know who gave it to me and that at first i didn't know that it had alcohol in it. now i can't go back to school until i have to go to some tribunal crap, but i was wondering should i tell them the truth, that i brought the alcohol, or stick with my story and say that i can't remember who gave it to me? ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V7 #498 ***************************