From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #496 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, November 16 2002 Volume 07 : Number 496 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan ["Mark Austin" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan [JeWeLNuMbEr1FaN@aol.com] Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) [Dave0828@aol.com] Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) [Dave0828@aol.com] Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) [Dave0828@aol.com] [EDA] Re: JEWEL ON GOOD DAY NEW YORK [JewelBlues@aol.com] Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) ["Jewel Worshiper" Subject: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan Hey all, I don't think its wonderful to be saying fag on stage, but News shows should be at least telling the whole thing, instead of trying to ruin jewels image. Jewel was talking about a dream she had when she was a teenager, in which she slept with bob dylan. She then went on to become famous, and even performed with him. She was thinking that her dream was coming true, but Dylan never made a pass at her. She said to the audience, jokingly, i should add, that he "must be gay, if he didnt want to sleep with me." she pointed out her top and mini skirt adding "just look at me" so, she wasnt going "Oh Bob Dylan is such a faggot." She was just joking. Also, is anyone aware if she actually sad "fag" or if she said "gay"? Saying "gay" shouldn't be offensive. You have a problem with homosexuals if you think so. Gay is an open word used in place of 'homosexual'. Okay, thats all I have to say! Bye everyone! Mark _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38:36 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan Alright, while well intentioned, this one doesn't have it right either. I'm going to wait and see if this dies down. If not, please remind me to transcribe the actual moment when I get more free time. Seriously, remind me. I just don't have time right now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:18:53 -0500 From: "jake skyles" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan Regardless of wether Jewel was joking or not, she shouldn't have said fag. That is very offensive to a lot of people, I was called a fag all through high school, it hurts when i hear people say that word jokingly or seriously. It's pretty much the same as saying nigger. I'm sure wasn't trying to offend anyone, but the fact that she even thinks it's okay to say is weird. Bottom line is she shouldn't have said it in fromt of 1,000 of her fans. Jake >From: Dave0828@aol.com >To: Jewel@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38:36 EST > >Alright, while well intentioned, this one doesn't have it right either. I'm >going to wait and see if this dies down. If not, please remind me to >transcribe the actual moment when I get more free time. > >Seriously, remind me. I just don't have time right now. 't have said fag. That is very offensive to a lot of people. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:52:43 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan Dave0828@aol.com, >Alright, while well intentioned, this one doesn't have it right either. You're right Dave ^.^;;; Sorry about that everyone, I was just typing on impulse, I was irritated by hearing that the News show (or possibly how it was quoted on the list?) made Jewel look like an ass. Sorry! ;p Mark _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:47:20 -0800 (PST) From: Princess Lauren Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan Agreed! This is one of the most offensive words in the english language. She's stooping as low as Eminem now. Ick. Whether it was a joke or not -- I'm sure not too many people found it funny. jake skyles wrote:Regardless of wether Jewel was joking or not, she shouldn't have said fag. That is very offensive to a lot of people, I was called a fag all through high school, it hurts when i hear people say that word jokingly or seriously. It's pretty much the same as saying nigger. I'm sure wasn't trying to offend anyone, but the fact that she even thinks it's okay to say is weird. Bottom line is she shouldn't have said it in fromt of 1,000 of her fans. Jake >From: Dave0828@aol.com >To: Jewel@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38:36 EST > >Alright, while well intentioned, this one doesn't have it right either. I'm >going to wait and see if this dies down. If not, please remind me to >transcribe the actual moment when I get more free time. > >Seriously, remind me. I just don't have time right now. 't have said fag. That is very offensive to a lot of people. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:20:54 -0330 From: "Mark Austin" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan Yes, fag or faggot is an extremely offensive word. However it was used in the song Pieces of You, but isn't it under a different tone? Im wondering if people found it just as offensive in that song. And, we are certain that she said fag and not gay? Im not critisizing anyone, donlt read this wrong, I'm just making sure. I'm sure it is also easy for words like that to "slip out" from Jewel, as she has admitted to swearing a lot when she was younger. She also said that she is trying to get out of that habbit. Mark _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:09:32 EST From: Getmamayo@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag. **********o.k. now that we've gotten it out of our system, let's move on please. Let's not be tooooooo sensitive and politically correct. ziad. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:16:22 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan Ok - I think that the last thing that I have to say about this is that she followed it up with "No, I'm just kidding, I love gays." At which point every gay person there that wanted to be heard let out a big holler all together. But, this isn't reported in these newspapers that don't care about context now is it? Later, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:14:20 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: [EDA] FWD: JeweLink NewsFlash! Here is the latest issue of JeweLink, directly from Jewel's "people", if you want to get a copy of this directly as each issue comes out, you can sub- scribe to it by sending a blank email to join-jewelink@list.jeweljk.com ******************************************** JeweLink - The Official Jewel Communications List ******************************************** READ THE JASON MRAZ INTERVIEW ON JEWELJK.COM! The infinitely appealing songs of SCC ArtBeat artist Jason Mraz are saturating the airwaves these days. If you haven't heard tracks from his debut CD, "Waiting for My Rocket to Come," you must be living on asteroid K213-EF2. Lately the San Diego troubadour has been spending his evenings opening for Jewel on the East Coast leg of the New Wild West Tour. In a recent interview with Jeweljk.com, he gives us the inside scoop on what it's like to tour with Jewel and tells us what's next for Jason Mraz. Check it out in the Tour section of www.jeweljk.com! 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Or I tell a joke and everyone is like....you are stupid thats not funny, lol....so yea i don't think it was bad for her to say that ~Michele Trade Angelfood-http://hometown.aol.com/jewelnumber1fan/index.html *Jewel number 1 fan* JEWEL KICKS ASS Roll tide!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:31:27 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) I'm sorry - I lost count between 550 - 600. And, that's not including the shows that I have yet to go to this month or the roses that I will give her at each of them. By the way, I see the + 10 for personally touched Jewel.... Are there bonus points available for having been kissed by Jewel? What about for having shared the stage with her for a song? Or, knowing how to play Jewel songs on the guitar? Oh well, in any case I think we know where I stand on the scoring table. By month's end I may be at 1000+. But, her crew is now aware of this - so contacting someone will do no good. LOL Later, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 23:15:06 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) Additionally, shouldn't there be some pretty good bonus points for owning any of the following: 1) Jewel signature model Taylor guitar 2) Guitar picks or setlists from concerts attended 3) Phyllis Barnabee Finally Gets a Bra 4) Shiva Diva Doo Wop 5) Tour programs 6) Other tour apparel - i.e. Jackets, Sweatshirts, pins, hats, stickers etc. 7) Other Jewel store items - Teapot - Tote Bags - Earings - Mugs / Cups etc. 8) Have had YOUR request played live at a Jewel concert 9) Jewel pertinent personalized license plate 10) Pet or child named after Jewel or Jewel subject matter (child must score higher I assume) 11) Special bonus - YOUR name is Jewel and YOU are a Jewel fan 12) Number of people that you are responsible for attending their first Jewel concert 13) Number of states (countries) in which you have seen Jewel perform 14) Number of times called in sick to work to attend a Jewel concert 15) Should you have to subtract points if you know the name of the group that originally performed 'I'm Too Sexy'? (referred to at the end of most current performances of Race Car Driver) Jewel doesn't have any space in her head reserved for this piece of information - you shouldn't either. (although, I'm guilty) 16) Do you gain or lose points if you were the inspiration for Race Car Driver? 17) You are greeted by crew members when you attend a concert. 18) Girls get extra credit points if they are inspired by Jewel to rip up t-shirts and jeans to look good - AND they look good doing it. 19) You are a girl and you have sustained a horseback riding injury. 20) You learned how to play guitar because of Jewel's inspiration. 21) You LIVED in a van - no camping or runaway from home for the weekend stories. 22) You have a picture of yourself with Jewel (extra bonus if it is signed). 23) Own any album or cd recorded by any other member of her family. 24) Own an original piece of her artwork. 25) Saw Ride With The Devil in the theatres (times number of viewings). Is this enough? Did I manage to duplicate any from the original list? Just a few extra thoughts to have fun with. Sometimes I feel as though I just have WAY too much time on my hands. LET THE SCAVENGER HUNT BEGIN!! Later, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 23:16:51 EST From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) One last thing.... you gain no points, in fact you lose them, if you wait near her house like a REAL stalker for her to come out. But, you lose three times as many points if you are a dumb enough stalker to do this while she is on tour. Later, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 00:19:40 EST From: JewelBlues@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: JEWEL ON GOOD DAY NEW YORK JEWEL called BOB DYlan a "fag" on Good Day New York --?? WHEN ? yestrday? WHY??? what were they talking about that she said "he is a fag". That makes no sense---Bob has been called lots of things in 40 years but a "fag" is not one of them! WHY would she sauy that? JEWELBLUES@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:32:12 -0800 From: "Jewel Worshiper" Subject: Re: [EDA] do you want to play (a game) phew! thank heavens for you obsessed people. now i don't feel so bad for my score... even though i made it to the stalker stange! lol. AROUND 465 pts! - --Jewel Worshiper-- http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven/pale_shade_of_grey.html (my Jewel Page) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jewel is GOD WWJD --- What Would Jewel Do "the hardest thing in the world is to live in it" ~buffy _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:53:02 -0800 From: "Jewel Worshiper" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan >>She's stooping as low as Eminem now. Ick.<< hehehheheheh! ;) i agree! ICK!!! :P!!!! - --Jewel Worshiper-- http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven/pale_shade_of_grey.html (my Jewel Page) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jewel is GOD WWJD --- What Would Jewel Do "the hardest thing in the world is to live in it" ~buffy >From: Princess Lauren >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:47:20 -0800 (PST) > >Agreed! This is one of the most offensive words in the english language. >She's stooping as low as Eminem now. Ick. Whether it was a joke or not -- >I'm sure not too many people found it funny. > jake skyles wrote:Regardless of wether Jewel was >joking or not, she shouldn't have said fag. >That is very offensive to a lot of people, I was called a fag all through >high school, it hurts when i hear people say that word jokingly or >seriously. It's pretty much the same as saying nigger. I'm sure wasn't >trying to offend anyone, but the fact that she even thinks it's okay to say >is weird. Bottom line is she shouldn't have said it in fromt of 1,000 of >her >fans. >Jake > > > >From: Dave0828@aol.com > >To: Jewel@smoe.org > >Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel didnt intend to insult Dylan > >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38:36 EST > > > >Alright, while well intentioned, this one doesn't have it right either. >I'm > >going to wait and see if this dies down. If not, please remind me to > >transcribe the actual moment when I get more free time. > > > >Seriously, remind me. I just don't have time right now. >'t have said fag. That is very offensive to a lot of people. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >Yahoo! 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