From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #452 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, October 13 2002 Volume 07 : Number 452 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] serve the ego [Cember76@aol.com] [EDA] my thoughts on downloading music... ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA] [NJC] Michael Robertson on the music industry [Paul Schreiber ] [EDA] END WEBSIDESTORY CODE [mikec ] [EDA] NJC: Blank emails to the list from me are NOT from me [Mike Connell] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 01:28:00 EDT From: Cember76@aol.com Subject: [EDA] serve the ego anyone know where i can hear serve the ego online... December ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:12:42 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] my thoughts on downloading music... i was waiting for mike to say what he had to say about the ftp idea. i didnt think it would work. cant say i was for it, cus i wasnt. didnt really like it. i dont like downloading music. it always makes me feel wierd, and like im cheeting in a way. i just dont like it. plus my computer is slow. the only time i download music is when it is on an official website and they are giving it to me as a nice sample of the artist out of all their wonderful goodness haha. as for downloading jewel stuff... yeah it was on napster that i first heard nicotine love(my all time favorite version too), my body is changing... oh and pretty much all the songs from the innerchange days cds, and i was blown a way. i found tons of songs on there, but this was before when downloading was no big deal and i felt fine with it, and i wasnt an eda and i didnt know a thing about the music industry. anyway, i dont download any jewel now. i have all the versions of the songs they have online on the actual cds they are from, so i beat the computer hehehe. and the few that i dont, which i will be getting soon, i can hear at other people sites... before they get taken down that is. thats just what i do about all this downloading craze... i just dont download. i like having the real cd, the whole concert, you know? trading... with other edas... item for item... thats my favorite method.... and im stickin' to it! alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 05:16:22 -0800 From: "Eagle in Flight EDA" Subject: [EDA] A little about me... My experience at the bon jon Jovi concert in Anchorage Alaska where Jewel was Hey everyone! This is me Daniel... Eagle in Flight EDA It's 4:42 am I haven't gone to bed yet, I guess I feel like I just wanted to write something, something really about nothing. I love to write, I think it must be my natural talent. I have an amazing imagination, and I can laugh right now when I say that because its so true! First of all, I wanted to tell you guys... HAY you guys need to write MORE often, we have some really incredible minds just wasting away, and unless you guys start writing some of the stuff down that your thinking about, then NOONE will KNOW!! OK but first PLEASE!! PLEASE!! make it interesting ok! Noone wants to know how you like to organize the dishwasher ok! Well... maybe some people but not me! I was warned when I joined by Jewelnumber1fan that YOU guys can JUMP down each others throats about some of the smallest details! Is that true??? TRUE defenders of JEWEL??! Perhaps its your keen understanding that innocence must be maintained!! Well I was wondering WHO else on this list is from Alaska... from what I have been gathering, I am starting to wonder if I am the only active Jewel fan from Alaska. I was actually at that BON JOVI CONCERT jewel was at when I was 18 in Anchorage, Alaska... Let me tell you guys about that concert.... I was with a couple best friends Matt Grimm, and John Gaynor. We had tickets up in the benches on the sides off the main floor. Well we snuck under the gate and to the floor to get a closer. (you know how us teenagers are) Well We kind of weasled our way slowly to the front... I think I was about 9 rows of people from the front stage... and it got crazy!! First of all... You know how Alaskans are... they like to grow their High potent weed right?? well what happens when you have a bunch of these pot smokers smoking weed on the floor... everyone on the floor was getting a contact high... and they were losing their balance and falling backwards... when this happened it was like a domino effect... everyone fell backwards... and I saw it coming at me like a wave of people, it picked me up off the floor and pushed me backward into the people behind me... and then somehow the shock was absorbed and we were all pushed forward... so It was like the floor was moving under my feet but i was standing up against everyone around me. Near the end of the concert one of the main speakers exploded and caught on fire... and the band kept on playing! That was the best ever! It totally rocked! Well I thought you guys might like to hear about it since Jewel was there, and would like to know how the concert went. Well I will write more later... talk to you guys later!! - -Eagle in Flight EDA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 13:49:05 -0700 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: [EDA] RS: Jewel http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=1268 by JANCEE DUNN Photograph by Troy Jensen Jewel She's thankful that she's never had to do a t&a video, but she still knows why all those boys come to her show It's strange to think of twenty-eight-year-old Jewel as an old hand in the music business, but she is. Since her 1995 debut, Pieces of You, Jewel has weathered an endless parade of trends and has thrived, despite the fact that her music certainly doesn't resemble most of what's on the radio. She spent her summer on tour in support of her fourth disc, This Way, although she was unable to play the guitar for most shows due to a broken collarbone suffered when she was thrown from a rambunctious colt. For many of her gigs, the opening act was a new-talent showcase she calls Soul City Cafe. "I see a hunger for artistry that isn't too generic yet," she says. "Kids really want to support stuff that's at an underground grass-root level." Who are your heroes? Nina Simone and Ella Fitzgerald are two big heroes. Cole Porter, for songwriting. Anais Nin and Bukowski. What effect has being a female had on your career? I was raised in a household where I read Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky and Kant, and I was never taught that my mind was feminine. I'm aware that my body is, but I don't feel like the capability of my intellect has a gender, and I think that's why I wrote pretty aggressively from a young age. As for career, it's hard to say. The whole woman movement back in the Nineties was great, but I always felt like there were so many women before us -- it wasn't like we were doing anything new or anything better than Etta James and Joni Mitchell. I think right now it's harder to get played on the air as a girl. I think you have to be young and cute and sexy for MTV to want to play you. Whereas men definitely don't have that problem -- they can be fat and hairy. And that's great, but it isn't that way for women. As much as Madonna liberated women in music, I think she also set the standard for sex selling music. I've been able to get around it my whole life -- you know, I've never felt like I had to do a T&A video. I never have, and I probably never will. [Laughs] Unless I start going through a phase. When you scan the rock charts now, there aren't a whole lot of gals, are there? This may not be the most peppy of answers, but the music industry is a business, and most businesses are trying to get large returns. It's just part of life -- it doesn't make me bitter, but it's good to know what you're dealing with. And I think that, largely, with a lot of the corporate takeovers that are happening in the business right now, people are looking at selling addictions. It's just the biggest return you can have, if you can get people addicted to a kind of music. And pretty much all the music that's being sold right now has an addictive quality. It's usually selling sex -- addicting kids to sex. It's a marketed, very contrived effort, and there are musicians who fit right into it. But it doesn't really worry me - you can look through history and see it happen again and again, and then something will come up and change it. And like I said, I was able to debut in the Top Ten and have sold-out concerts despite it all, so go figure. You're an anomaly in a lot of ways. When I was eighteen, I wanted to build a career that wouldn't rely on radio, wouldn't rely on trends, and it's neat to see it pay off. It's neat to see that touring for years and concentrating on being a good live act has ensured that I may not have sold as many records as somebody else out on the road right now this year, but I'm selling out better. What advice would you give to women who are just starting out in the business? The same advice I give anybody. There are two reasons to be in this job. One is because you want fame, and one is because you want to have a long career and you like art. And you need to know which of those two things you're picking. Both are fine, but every day you make fifty decisions that are going to support one or the other. Your earliest musical memory, please. I think I just remember my mom and dad rehearsing during the days for their shows at night. They'd usually stand up against the wall and practice harmonies for hours, and I'd always harass them to teach me a song. What's the first concert you went to? Besides my parents'? I think my mom took me to Bonnie Raitt when I was pretty young. She made it to Anchorage, believe it or not. I don't remember it very well -- I remember long red hair. I must have been eight or nine. Hey, that was a cool concert for your first one. [Laughs] The next one was Bon Jovi, in the eighth grade. What's your place in pop music? How do you think people view you? I don't know. If I was just to look at my audience on any given night, there's about fifty percent girls, fifty percent guys. Some of the guys are there because they like my tits, some are there because of the rock music at the end of the show. Girls are there because they want to be me, or because they want to write, or because their boyfriends brought them. There's so many reasons and types -- there are little kids, and there are Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell fans who are in their forties and fifties. That's the cool thing about music: I don't have to worry about any of that. I just write music, and everybody gets out of it what they want. Defining Moment: Pieces of You, her 1995 debut, which was released at the height of grungemania and still managed to move more than 11 million units. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 13:55:36 -0700 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: [EDA] [NJC] Michael Robertson on the music industry Michael Robertson, former head of mp3.com and current prez of Lindows, wrote a series of interesting essays on the music industry. Two of them are: Killing Ants With A Hammer Drug Dealers Don't Sell Aspirin You have to grab them off the archive.org site, because they aren't "live" anymore. The essay list is here: ...you'll just need to prepend the URLs with the web.archive.org info noted above. What's scary (sad?) is that they are just as true today as when they were written, *four years ago*. Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / "Your attitude is your life." -- Robin Williams ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:37:34 EDT From: rawhite78@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] RS: Jewel Jewel said: > Some of the guys > are there because they like my tits, some are there because of the rock > music at the end of the show. Well, all I can say is, Fu** you, I'm sensitive.... :-) Rowdy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:07:07 -0800 From: "Eagle in Flight EDA" Subject: Re: [EDA] A little about me... My experience at the bon jon Jovi concert in A... Ok michele may have not told me, but someone I think did... sorry michele... didn't mean to point any fingers. Eagle in Flight EDA From: JeWeLNuMbEr1FaN@aol.com To: eagleinflight@danielrock.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [EDA] A little about me... My experience at the bon jon Jovi concert in A... DANIEL why did you say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Michele Trade Angelfood-http://hometown.aol.com/jewelnumber1fan/index.html *Jewel number 1 fan* Roll tide!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:10:23 -0800 From: "Eagle in Flight EDA" Subject: Re: [EDA] RS: Jewel Yea no doubt huh!!! C'mon Jewel give us Guys a little more credit than that... WE LOVE YOU for YOUR Awesome mind!! And your incredible voice!! (at least I do anyways) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [EDA] RS: Jewel > Jewel said: > > Some of the guys > > are there because they like my tits, some are there because of the rock > > music at the end of the show. > > Well, all I can say is, Fu** you, I'm sensitive.... > > :-) > > Rowdy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 22:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: mikec Subject: [EDA] END WEBSIDESTORY CODE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:19:39 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: [EDA] NJC: Blank emails to the list from me are NOT from me In case some of you were wondering what the heck I am doing sending blank emails to the list from this account and my AOL account (duckofprey@aol.com), it's not me sending them. It's either someone impersonating me, or someone's email account is infected with a vir us that sends out emails disguised as someone else (there's a few of those types of vir uses out there right now making life oh so pleasant for list owners) In either case, I am taking measures to stop this particular problem from occuring again. Mike ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V7 #452 ***************************