From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #151 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, April 11 2002 Volume 07 : Number 151 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: setlists and scalping [rawhite78@aol.com] Re: [EDA] IDIOT PEOPLE selling tickets for $ 300!!! ["Mary Olmos" ] Re: Re: [EDA] Ticket Prices ["Elizabeth Nguyen" ] [EDA] The Video!! [Uri Cancio ] [EDA] bad reception ["FabioJJ" ] [EDA] break me video [DixieJewelAngel@aol.com] Re: [EDA] bad reception ["FabioJJ" ] [EDA] Break Me video is horrible! ["jake skyles" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 21:02:30 EDT From: rawhite78@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NJC: setlists and scalping Hey, First I have to agree with Mike.. During the Spirit tour the setlists were basically the same. I went to the Dallas show on a Friday and the Houston show the next night, and though they were basically the same songs in almost the same order they were completely different shows. Different tone, different feel, different version of the same story :-) ) As for scalping I think I'll have to disagree with Sandy. The "if I don't buy it someone else will" theory doesn't work for me personally. I would rather not see the show than buy from the scalper. Not because I feel that it cheats jewel, or fans, but because I will not buy into that cycle. Sure, if I do not buy that $300 ticket someone else will, but I will feel better knowing it wasn't me that bought it. It goes beyond the show into personal ideals. As for the food/jean analogy... I have turned down jobs that pay lower than normal scale, even when I was way behind on the bills. Sure, someone prolly came in behind me and accepted the job, and sure I ate alot of ramen soup. But that still doesn't change the fact that I believe (in work and other things) if everyone would hold out things would get better.) If I had accepted the job it would have only reinforced the idea to the employer that he could get away with paying so low. So, yes I would like to see jewel up close, but to me it is not worth that much (and I'm not talking about the money.). my couple cents... rowdy "Calling it your job don't make it right" C.H.L. "Those who beat their swords into plowshares often end up plowing for someone else." "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:03:40 -0700 From: "Mary Olmos" Subject: Re: [EDA] IDIOT PEOPLE selling tickets for $ 300!!! >Okay, I'm not trying to be bitchy, but honestly people, what did you expect? >Did you really expect that no scalpers were going to get the pre-sale >tickets? People sign up to a gazillion fan lists just to get the pre-sale >stuff - there is no way to block *absolutely every* scalper in the >world...the idea of the pre-sale is to try and minimize it, and 20 people >bitchy to the list about how unfair it is isn't going to change it. There is a way to block out a lot of the scalpers and the "ebayers", mandate that the tickets be picked up the night of the show at the box office with a credit card and photo ID. There might be scalpers who are willing to meet you at the venue to give you your $600 pair of tickets, but I'm sure there won't be that many. OR, as Bob Dylan used to do, keep track of what seats were sold to whom, and if those tickets end up with a broker or on ebay, threaten to BAN that person from ever purchasing fan club tickets again. It's a lot of work, and the old Dylan fan ticket sales were not handled through ticketmaster, so everything was tracked manually. If it makes anyone feel a little bit better, some of the tickets on ebay could belong to season subscription holders who get their ticket assignments in advance of the regular on-sale, in Los Angeles a broker may have MANY season subscriptions registered with 1 venue, ensuring them a large pool of premium seats. But only those people (the J-Team?) who know what preimum seat assignments were released as part of the fan pre-sale would be able to say definitively how many of the tickets are season subscription or fan pre-sale. We did ok though the pre-sales, 3rd row in San Diego, 4th row (out of the pit) in Los Angeles, and 12th row (out of the pit) in Santa Barbara. Does anyone else care to share a report from Southern California? Mary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:28:37 -0700 From: Gerrit Subject: Re: [EDA] Ticket Prices Sandy wrote: > Just curious if anyone else (Canadian's particularly) found it odd that our > tickets are so much more? The expensive tickets at most of the US venues are > $45.50USD with the odd exception being higher, making the price of two tickets > ($91) converted into Canadian dollars $130.72... I paid almost $180 for two > tickets for the Toronto show! That's an extra $20/ticket....I just find the > difference in prices odd, they usually don't differ that much. Remember to count the TicketMaster handling charges? Gerrit ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:25:59 -0700 From: "Elizabeth Nguyen" Subject: Re: Re: [EDA] Ticket Prices Sandy wrote: > Just curious if anyone else (Canadian's particularly) found it odd that our > tickets are so much more? The expensive tickets at most of the US venues are > $45.50USD with the odd exception being higher, making the price of two tickets > ($91) converted into Canadian dollars $130.72... I paid almost $180 for two > tickets for the Toronto show! That's an extra $20/ticket....I just find the > difference in prices odd, they usually don't differ that much Wow, I thought my tickets were expensive ($50 each), but I thought it would be fun to go to the Vegas show (I'm from California) and the Hard Rock show is ridiculous! $75 for price range 1! For $50 in LA, I got 2nd row out of the orchestra pit. So that's like 7th or somehting. But yeah ... ahh! so excited about the concert. These are the best seats I've had yet. Elizabeth, the tennis-ball-whacking angel Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought - Shakespeare, "Hamlet" Perfect for the Jewel Kilcher Fan! Get your Free E-mail at http://jewel.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:38:20 EDT From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Village Voice review M2M Hey Guys Well, I don't know/like M2M necessarily, but I've said I'm willing to listen and give them a chance if they're opening for Jewel. However, don't confuse this as a "defending M2M" post.. cause it's not. I would be completely unable to do that because I don't know them. I just thought you guys might like to read this GLOWING review that was published in The Village Voice. For those who don't know, The Village Voice is a New York weekly paper ... and they're VERY picky. They rarely like ANYTHING. In fact I hate reading their reviews because it has to be some indie movie that nobody has ever heard of or will see before they give it a good review. So the fact that they've given such outright praise to M2M really says something... Here's the article: Everyone Hates Miss Popular by James Hunter In "Payphone," a mid-tempo matrix of fast harmonies and heartaches on The Big Room, the second album by the Norwegian duo M2M, a young girl walks around in ominous weather, although she never mentions rain or snow or anything like that outright. "Just cry," she begins, her everyday soprano edged by sweet forbearance as hypnotically as it is frustrated by teenage impatience. "Rely on me." Turns out, in a chorus that goes rockier and more vocal-backgroundy at the same time the verse's unforgiving two-note piano riff never ceases to sound, she's quoting an absent guy. Who might be a liar. But this, at any rate, is when a great swirl about the primacy of the human voice and romantic analysis and telecommunications erupts in the girl's mind, not to mention in the middle of her absolutely spot-on singing. Cresting, on a phrase inspired either by a lack of coinage or a dead cellphone battery, she sings, "I really need to find a payphone." Afterward, she quotes the guy further ("Just smile"), again repeating her basic structure. This is a pop masterpiece. Since they debuted in 2000 with the frequently genius Shades of Purple, M2Mb Marion Raven and Marit Larsen, who are 17 and 18 years old respectivelybhave been teenpop's deepest artists. Or they might just be two uncanny singers and songwriters who happen to be under 20. Given how much ornery old teenpop (a marketing umbrella under which fall upsettingly young singers and often distressingly Scandinavian-Anglo productions) has long eaten into the happiness of rock fans and commentators, it's understandable that The Big Room seeks to reposition M2M toward the real. (The album is named for the main tracking space at that green icon of upstate bucolicity, Woodstock's Bearsville.) In other words, a live band now back the duo. Kenny Aronoff, for example, the great '80s drummer whose work '90s rockers often find too heavy on precision and therefore too light on atmosphere, is in; the London programmers from Shades of Purple are out. Initially, an M2M listener may notice this; fans of the modern perfection of London programmers may at first wonder why M2M chose to jump into a live-band racket keen on guitars, which after all are notoriously hard to keep in tune therefore sonically sloppy in a way seemingly counter to M2M's music, no matter how much they like Lenny Kravitz's sheepskin coats. But in fact the album only proves what people who enjoy various pop music grasp: that style, although its quality in the event can't be overestimated, is a delusion anyway, that the real thing that makes pop music go is artists who are there. And make no mistake: Produced by Jimmy Bralowerbwho with Peter Zizzo brought home "Don't Say You Love Me," Raven and Larsen's first hitbM2M on The Big Room are there. On a couple of songs, the big-rockland "Jennifer" and "Miss Popular," which coolly weaves in a chamber-pop piano bridge, M2M return to the topic of resentment. It was that angle on teenage life and love that made their debut's "Girl in Your Dreams" into the kind of recording that reminds you how youthfully oriented pop can access the same emotions that rendered the psychological wranglings of mad old kings in Elizabethan drama and beautiful princesses in 19th-century Italian opera world famous. Leaning into wily guitar chords, Raven lays into stipulations like "It's either her or me," confessions such as "I will never be like Jennifer." In "Miss Popular" she wonders, "Oh can't she see?/What she's putting innocent people through?" before gleefully turning the tables and revealing, "Oh Miss Popular/Everyone hates you." How was it that Bryan Ferry credited the Ronettes records that stirred him years ago? Jukebox art? M2M make something like that. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:37:02 -0400 From: "Shannon L. Mackie" Subject: [EDA] Scanner Needed Pronto Hey one of you guys go run and grab your NWOA book and scan for me the shiny autograph inside. Amanda stop laughing or I'll kick you in your face! :) just kidding dear PLEASE SOMEONE HELP i am going crazy :) haizee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:45:57 -0700 From: Uri Cancio Subject: [EDA] The Video!! has anyone seen it?? I saw it this morning...very cool... I was still half a sleep when I saw Jewel come out of a burka and I was like whaat?? I dunno, it's very riske and for the type of song that it is...it can go either way, but yes, people are going to talk about it.... Uri ps: sorry to hear that a bunch of you got jipped by the ticketmaster evil empire..one day they will pay!! night Uri ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 00:45:39 -0300 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: [EDA] bad reception Go here and check "Break Me - Jewel" (yeah, I lied when I said I've seen the video... whatever :-)) http://www.vh1.com/interact/boards/main.jhtml/fresh/ThreadList/ not cool... but I still have HIGH expectations on this. I'm actually very happy because it seems that the video is not something just to sell but it has something more. I really want to see it. Fabio ** www.jewel.com.br <=> Fa-clube Jewel Brasil ** www.geocities.com/fabiojj/sarahlink <=> Sarah McLachlan ** http://www2.allaccess.com/sounds/jewelbre.ram <=> Break Me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:48:53 EDT From: DixieJewelAngel@aol.com Subject: [EDA] break me video they are playing videos on vh1 now if ya'll wanna look out for jewel's video! *xx* ~The *Dixie* Angel~ ~*~mIcHeLe mAnDeViLLe~*~ Don't ever give away what you can't take back-Jewel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Listen to Jewel Break Me Here http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/emails/breakmefriend.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 00:56:18 -0300 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: Re: [EDA] bad reception Also, I saw that some people were saying that the video left them depressed. Very weird. Burka, huh? I NEED to watch it!!! Fabio ** www.jewel.com.br <=> Fa-clube Jewel Brasil ** www.geocities.com/fabiojj/sarahlink <=> Sarah McLachlan ** http://www2.allaccess.com/sounds/jewelbre.ram <=> Break Me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 01:02:56 -0400 From: "jake skyles" Subject: [EDA] Break Me video is horrible! I'm sorry but really disliked the Break Me video. And that is very hard for me to say. I think it's a somewhat good concept but it was done horribly. First off they are trying to fit way too much into a short video, and second, what were they thinking when they put that horrible wig on a man, you know at the end when she's holding herself. It's so obviously not her. Are people supposed to think that looks like Jewel from the back? And what about how none of the people can lipsync to it they are always early or late. There's more stuff I don't like about it but I just don't know how to say it. Maybee I'll have to see it a few more times and look for things I like about it. This doesn't mean I won't vote for the video and whatnot cause I LOVE the song, I think the video should have gone in a different direction with a director that knew what he was doing. This would have been a better concept for The New Wild West video maybee. Sorry, Jake _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V7 #151 ***************************