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jewel-digest         Monday, January 21 2002         Volume 07 : Number 040




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                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: [EDA] NJC: Poetry convention/read this!           [RocketsTail@aol.com]
  [EDA] SJC: ??reference of celebs??  ["now and zen girl" <lemming523@hotmai]
  [EDA] poetry.com              ["now and zen girl" <lemming523@hotmail.com>]
  [EDA] last call/poems turned into songs  ["now and zen girl" <lemming523@h]
  SJC: RE: [EDA] VH1's 100 Greatest Women -- Mariah Carey not included also  ["now and zen girl" <lemming523@hotmail.co]

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Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:17:15 EST
From: RocketsTail@aol.com
Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Poetry convention/read this!

 Sorry to burst your bubble but i'm sure we've all been invited to that
convention...POETRY.COM is a HUGE HUGE SCAM!  20/20, 60 minutes have all done
stories on it...read this article, visit the link below, read up on
it...don't give them your money, don't let them discourage you...they are not
credible at all, sorry but I don't like to see people taken in by this crap.
~eric

Story from NBC, Channel 4 News,
Washington DC

Poetry Contest
Air Date: February 25, 1999
<A HREF="http://nbc4.com/">NBC4.com</A>

Anchor7:
AT SOME POINT IN YOUR LIFE YOU'VE PROBABLY JOTTED DOWN A POEM OR TWO. MAYBE
EVEN THOUGHT YOUR POEM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE PUBLISHED.

WELL THERE'S AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR POEM, MAYBE
PUBLISH IT. ONLY THING IS, THEY DON'T PAY YOU, YOU PAY THEM. OUR RESIDENT
WORD-SMITH AND CONSUMER REPORTER, LIZ CRENSHAW, IS TAKING A LOOK AT POETRY
CONTESTS TONIGHT. LIZ.

Liz Crenshaw:
SUSAN/DOUG, WE FOUND ADS FOR POETRY CONTESTS IN LOTS OF MAGAZINES AND
NEWSPAPERS. THEY PRETTY MUCH ADVERTISE THE SAME THING. YOUR POEM COULD BE
PUBLISHED. YOU COULD EVEN WIN MONEY OR OTHER PRIZES. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU
COULD BE A POET. IT'LL JUST COST YOU SOME MONEY TO KNOW IT.

HERE'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T SEE TOO OFTEN. POETS WANTED. OF COURSE THESE POETS
ARE WANTED BY US TO ENTER POETRY CONTESTS. WE SET UP A TABLE AT BALLSTON
COMMON MALL IN ARLINGTON VIRGINIA AND ASKED SHOPPERS IF THEY'D WRITE A POEM
FOR US. KEVIN BUCHANAN WROTE US A POEM.

"Roses are red, violets are purple, my love for you is as sweet as maple
syrple."

THAT'S RIGHT, "SYRPLE." CALL IT POETIC LICENSE. YVETTE BLOUNT ALSO WROTE US A
POEM.

"Love is...a mother's touch. a baby in her mother's arms... smile from your
lover...a friendly wave...a sweet goodbye. Oh, touching poem."

THE REASON WE NEEDED THESE POEMS WAS TO ENTER POETRY CONTESTS. YOU'VE
PROBABLY SEEN THE ADS.

"YOUR POEM COULD WIN..."

"$1,000 GRAND PRIZE.."

"$48,000 IN PRIZES."

WITH AWARDS LIKE THAT, WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IT TOOK TO WIN.7

"Aspacia...I see you in the morning and I grin...I call you during the day
and I grin."

SO WE TOOK OUR POEMS AND SENT EACH TO 5 DIFFERENT CONTESTS. WE ENTERED
CONTESTS FOR:
THE POETRY GUILD.

"I feel you every day I call my attorney. I can't wait to see you my little
Emmy."

FOR THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF POETRY.

"The mall is a place to have fun. It is also a place to step out of the sun."

THE FAMOUS POETS SOCIETY.

"Isn't it nice to have someone who cares, someone who needs you, who tries to
please you."

THE ILIAD PRESS.

"If ever a sun so bright. If ever a wrong so right. If ever a life so dear.
If ever a creation so near."

AND THE AMHERST SOCIETY.

"When I awake in the morning and I see the bright sunshine I am touched by
the light of love."

WE ALSO TOOK OUR POEMS TO PROFESSOR JANE SHORE WHO TEACHES POETRY AT THE
GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. COULD THERE BE A WORDSWORTH
OR LONGFELLOW IN OUR COLLECTION?

"Are these good or great poems? I don't think they're good and I don't think
they're great. I think they're very cliched and very common."

BUT PROFESSOR SHORE SAYS THAT'S NOT THE POINT TO MOST POETRY CONTESTS.
PROFESSOR SHORE SAYS THE POINT IS USUALLY TO SELL YOU ANTHOLOGY BOOKS.

"I've actually seen these anthologies. What it looks like is a yearbook. The
paper though is Xerox paper."

"There were about 5 or 10 poems per page and it had a couple of hundred
pages. And if you really add that up then somebody's making a lot of money."

HOW MUCH MONEY? WELL THE CONTESTS WE ENTERED TYPICALLY WANTED WINNERS TO PAY
$45 TO $50 FOR AN ANTHOLOGY BOOK. ADDING YOUR BIOGRAPHY COST $20 TO $25 MORE.
WANT YOUR POEM TYPESET? ADD $25. A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT? ADD $25 MORE.
AND WITH ONE CONTEST YOU CAN EVEN HAVE YOUR POEM RECORDED ON AUDIO CASSETTE,
$33.

AND WHICH POEMS ARE WORTHY OF ALL THIS POETIC ATTENTION?

"I think they have a stamp and the stamp says accept, accept, accept. I
wonder if anyone's ever been rejected?"

WE WONDERED TOO. NONE OF OUR POETS RECEIVED A SINGLE REJECTION LETTER. TO
FIND OUT WHY WE PLACED CALLS AND WROTE LETTERS TO EACH CONTEST, BUT ONLY ONE
ANSWERED US. ILIAD PRESS SAYS ABOUT 90% OF ENTRANTS QUALIFY.

IT SAYS IT USES ONE JUDGE WHO HAS A MASTERS DEGREE IN ENGLISH BUT COULD NOT
NAME WHAT COLLEGE IT'S FROM. ILIAD ADMITS IT'S A VANITY PRESS WHERE WRITERS
PAY TO BE PUBLISHED.

BUT ILIAD PRESS SAYS IT PROVIDES A SERVICE TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE
PUBLISHED. IT SAYS PEOPLE WHO WIN FEEL FANTASTIC. AND IT OFFERS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET EXCITED ABOUT WRITING.

AS FOR OUR POETS, ALL RECEIVED ACCEPTANCE LETTERS FROM CONTESTS THEY HEARD
BACK FROM, AND NOT EVEN KEVIN BUCHANAN'S "MAPLE SYRPLE" POEM, GOT A REJECTION
LETTER.

"I just think it's very sad that people are taken this way. They don't see
that they don't have to pay to have their work published. That people should
pay them."

AS FOR PRIZES, ILIAD PRESS TELLS US IT GIVES AWAY FOUR $1,000 CASH PRIZES A
YEAR TO THEIR BEST POETS PLUS OTHER PRIZES WORTH $40,000.

<A
HREF="http://www.poemkingdom.com/exposed.shtml">www.poemkingdom.com/exposed.s
html</A>

<A
HREF="http://www.literature-awards.com/poetry_contests.htm">www.literature-aw
ards.com...ntests.htm</A>



COME SHARE YOUR POETRY HERE:
 <A HREF="http://pub39.ezboard.com/bcarnivalwig">Carnival Wig @
www.ezboard.com</A>










"why do I like you?
 'Cause I do
 why do I like you?
 'Cause I'd kill to be you"
                   ~throwing muses

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:49:35 +0000
From: "now and zen girl" <lemming523@hotmail.com>
Subject: [EDA] SJC: ??reference of celebs??

no youre not weird... i have been wondering the same thing.  i used to
think i knew the answer, that they did have to get permission... but now
i am wondering, cus people throw names around right and left in their
songs... so i just dont know anymore... does anyone know??

alisa

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:53:30 +0000
From: "now and zen girl" <lemming523@hotmail.com>
Subject: [EDA] poetry.com

awhile ago i was sending poems to random people on icq, and a guy pointed
me towards poetry.com.  it was late... like 2am and i just went off
putting in tons of poems in their monthy contest.  well they ended up
picking one to put in their book.  they picked like the dumbest thing id
ever written!  but anyway i thought it was really neat that i was in the
book.  then my friend skippy who i write songs with, hes a great writer
and poet.  well he entered the contest too and won and is in the same
book as me.  well his poem was better than the one they chose from me...
it just made me wonder if they just pick on from everyone who enters...
cus then more people will want to buy a copy... and they are quite
expenssive.  i didnt buy one though.   alisa

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:57:10 +0000
From: "now and zen girl" <lemming523@hotmail.com>
Subject: [EDA] last call/poems turned into songs

i was just listening to poem song/wild horse... and i occured to me that
this song is entirely a poem made into a song hahahaha... i guess jewel
just forgot about it when it was mentioned on last call. and i think its
just so hilarious that she can never remember the words to foolish
games.  its like the number one most forgotten song. hahaha at now and
zen fest she had to restart it 3 times and she still forgot the lyrics
hahahah... i have so many messed up versions of that song hahaha its so
funny! alisa

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 03:04:02 +0000
From: "now and zen girl" <lemming523@hotmail.com>
Subject: SJC: RE: [EDA] VH1's 100 Greatest Women -- Mariah Carey not included also

mariah carey has been so depressing lately.  i mean what has she done to
herself!  and cribs just topped it off... man the pop music industy has
completely consumed her and spit her back out.

and awhile ago they were haveing commercials all the time for the best
hits album for mariah and it was so upsetting.  it was like here are all
the songs from when she was actually good and talented before she was
washed up and money consumed.  i hated those commercials.  they were just
a reminder of what she used to be.

she wrote some of my favorite songs to be honest.  then she had to mess
it all up... the pop industry contributed quite well.  poor mariah.

her therapist needs to take a good look at her cribs.  she needs to go
back to that breakdown place she went to.  i mean she was saying things
like "does this make me look fat" and "it doesnt matter if its
comfortable as long as it looks good"... oh my... and her "aensamble"...
changed like 5 times... geeze...

good thing jewel took off 2 years hahaha

alisa

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