From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #689 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, December 12 2001 Volume 06 : Number 689 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: sell out trivia [Carrie the Midnight Angel ] Re: [EDA] more about the JS versions ["Scott" ] Re: [EDA] NJC country music remakes ["Scott" ] [EDA] a million miles away question [GnG849@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NJC: Sellouts! ["elchubbo" ] [EDA] My big ol' 10 list! [AquaBearer@aol.com] [EDA] Songs I'd like to see again... ["Scott" ] [EDA] My X-mas (Hannukah, Kwanzaa... whatever) wish: [RachKat926@aol.com] [EDA] Jewel article from Globe and Mail [Fredsteve@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:43:54 -0800 From: Carrie the Midnight Angel Subject: [EDA] NJC: sell out trivia - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." > Re: Sellout....as the great band Metallica once said. "You're darn right > we're a sellout...we 'sell out' at every single show!" I think that says it > all. > Derrick - ----- Yes I love that quote! I remember when I was on a MetallicA list and any other list out there when their "Load" and "Reload" albums came out. Everyone was saying something bad about them, when a few months ago they were die hard fans. *laughs* Ahhhh those were interesting days. When I heard Jason (I think) say that if I could've said something back to him it would've been. "Right on Brothah!" hahahah :-) Sorry I just had to reply.... *giggles* ~*~ Carrie the Midnight Angel ~*~ carrielewis@gmx.net http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:07:39 -0800 From: "Elizabeth Nguyen" Subject: [EDA] New Thread: what I'd like to see Hi everyone. I was sitting here listening to some of my angelfood. ::gush:: All this talk of Jewelstock just got in a mood again and I remember why I was sooo excited to learn about angelfood when I first joined the list. So, I pose this question. What are the top 10 songs you'd love to see Jewel perform again? Mine are: 1. Nikos - just beautiful and so moving. I almost cried the first time I heard it. 2. Nicotine Love - it's just such a good song! 3. Carnivore - oh yes! She needs to rock out with this at her concert. 4. Summer Home in Your Arms 5. 1,000 Miles 6. Rocker Girl 7. Buttercup 8. Life's A Big Mystery Show 9. Angel Needs a Ride 10. Studies in Love #12 (I've always found Summer HOme in YOur Arms similar to Studies in Love ... am I way off?) 11. (just because I could help it!) Last Dance Rodeo 12. and even though this is a fairly new song: Rosy & Mick - I love that song! I wish it could've been on the album. Hehe .. that's all. Funny thing is, I first thought I'd just list 5, but found that there are way more and 10 should be a good number, although, I didn't really stick to the rules. ::grin:: So, what other songs would you guys like to see her perform? Elizabeth, the tennis-ball-whacking angel Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought - Shakespeare, "Hamlet" Perfect for the Jewel Kilcher Fan! Get your Free E-mail at http://jewel.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:15:12 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] Top 10 songs for Jewel to perform again the top 10 I'd like to see Jewel perform again, in no particular order: 1>studies in love #12 2>last dance rodeo 3>carnivore 4>down so long (innerchange version) 5>here when gone 6>angel needs a ride 7>everything breaks 8>jessica 9>passing time 10>can't take my soul cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:31:17 EST From: JewelWN2BE@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Top 10 songs for Jewel to perform again 1. Summer Home In Your Arms 2. Studies In Love #12 3. Everything Breaks Sometime 4. Carnivor 5. Race Car Driver 6. I'm Fading 7. I'm Sensitive ( when was the last time she sang this live!?!? ) 8. She Cries 9. I Don't Care 10. Yo (with dad!) Michelle the normal angel (haha!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:57:57 -0500 From: "Devin Starr" Subject: [EDA] My big ol' 10 list! OK.. my list! 1)Jessica 2)Boy Needs A Bike 3)I Dont Care 4)Tiny Love Spaces 5)I hate Valentines day 6)V12-Cadillac 7)Rocker Girl 8)A Very Big Girl 9)Satellite 10)a medly of every released song.. *unrealist but byte me lol my list!* Jess angel with broken wings _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:25:19 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [EDA] more about the JS versions Well, I have a CD copy of Jewelstock, and it's pretty damn good quality.. The advantages to people having and spreading CD copies are numerous.. As these are copied from person to person, they don't see the quality loss that you get from copying tape to tape to tape.. I'm talking long-run, for groups.. Also, as you play these, they don't lose quality from general wear and tear.. Cassettes wear out.. And if you copy them to new tapes in case you wear out those--bam--another quality loss.. Like I said, my CD copies are extremely good quality.. It was copied very well by whoever did it in the first place.. If there is very slight audio degradation, I don't notice it, so it's negligible.. And now I can copy it for others without having to worry about generations and such.. (And, no, don't ask.. I don't have a burner yet..) =) scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevan112 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:39:04 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC country music remakes <> Well, I guess Dolly had a cover credit built up from Whitney covering "I Will Always Love You." So it's even =) scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevan112 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:43:41 EST From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: [EDA] a million miles away question hey, does anyone know if jewel and steve ever finished writing a million miles away? i love the song but steve said it was only half done on the video. or are there any lyrics to it? love megan, the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:34:20 -0500 From: "elchubbo" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Sellouts! > Ok Im sorry but if a band makes an album that comepltly SELLS OUT to what is > popular or mainstream and ignores their fans wishes...That is wrong. Sugar > ray went from a HARDCORE metal band to a POP band all because of the success > of ONE SINGLE (FLY, which they originally did as a simple joke)! Im not > saying you cant change ur music, but simply making an album because u know > that type of music is popular just to sell records is pointless. THESE > people change from artists to PERFORMERS, there to mearly make money and not > make have any artistic merit whatsoever. > > Steve AKA LostAndDelirious > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carrie the Midnight Angel > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:49 AM > Subject: [EDA] NJC: Sellouts! > > > > elchubbo wrote: > > > > >I miss NO DOUBT and their punk phase...They have sold out to what is > > >mainstream and thats Sad so very sad considering the talent they once had > > > > > >They have gone the way of Smashmouth, Sugar Ray...and other groups who > > >showed promise but sold out for money.... > > > > > >Steve AKA LostAndDelirious > > > > > ----- > > > > What is really sad is that people think artists can live on staying the > > same, playing the same style over > > and over until they just can't find anything new to do with it.. Change > > is good, some people can't > > accept that and call artists "sell outs". That is what is sad. Bandwagon > > fans...that is what I call them. > > Plus I think it's kinda rude to be calling someone or a whole band a > > "sell out", until your out there in > > the scene, or worked in the music business then you can talk. It's hard, > > and getting paid for what you love > > to do like making music, well then what the hell. Is that being a "sell > > out", no I don't think so. I guess it's > > true...ignorance is bliss. > > > > Really I am not trying to start any type of flame, but I get bent out of > > shape when people use the term "sell out". > > It's really kinda high schoolish term. Musicians are workers, they have > > the coolest job and sometimes they have > > a lot of stress. But getting paid to do what you love is great. If you > > love to be a painter and you are getting paid > > for it...good...if you make more money by improving your style, even > > better! See what I am trying to get at. > > ACK! It's late at night....hehehehehe never mind. > > > > ~*~ Carrie the Midnight Angel ~*~ > > carrielewis@gmx.net > > http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:08:53 EST From: AquaBearer@aol.com Subject: [EDA] My big ol' 10 list! Here goes: 1-Down 2-Boy Needs a Bike 3-Tiny Love Spaces 4-Sunshine Superman 5-Rocker Girl 6-Racecar Driver 7-Jessica 8-Everything Breaks Sometime 9-Satellite 10-1000 Miles Away ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:22:15 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: [EDA] Songs I'd like to see again... 01) Nicotine Love 02) Studies In Love #12 03) Everything Breaks 04) Carnivore 05) Memoirs Of A Housewife 06) If This Is What Love Is 07) 1000 Miles Away 08) Passing Time 09) Louisa And Her Blue Guitar 10) POY songs she stopped playing: Amen and Painters scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevan112 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:18:06 EST From: RachKat926@aol.com Subject: [EDA] My X-mas (Hannukah, Kwanzaa... whatever) wish: Here's what I wish: That all these stupid establishments would STOP paying people (entertainers, ball players, actors, etc etc) such ridiculous amounts of money... and then we'd have... gasp!... people who do it, just because they love what they're doing. no more sell-outs, greediness, etc, etc. there.. that's what i wish. ~Rachel~ Check out my LiveJournal at http://www.livejournal.com/~rachkat926/ "How true it is that words are but vague shadows of the volumes we mean." Theodore Dreiser ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:40:36 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel article from Globe and Mail Pearls of wisdom from Jewel The singer took time off to write poetry and avoid music-industry stereotyping. Now she's back and talks to REBECCA CALDWELL about her new attitude By REBECCA CALDWELL Wednesday, December 12, 2001 b Page R3 If singer-songwriter Jewel Kilcher were an example of her namesake, she'd be a diamond: sparkling with talent to be sure, multifaceted, but a little cold, hard and impervious. It's been six years since she burst on to the scene with the phenomenal, Grammy-nominated debut Pieces of You, and three years since a self-imposed hiatus to help her reignite her musical focus. Over those years, the usual hectic tour schedule for Spirit, combined with forays into film and publishing seemed like a recipe for a flameout C la Mariah Carey. But Jewel, newly branded poster child for self-awareness, just wisely opted out. "I quit," Jewel says winsomely, tossing her long blond locks around. "The passion left. It all changed so much. "There's a very seductive rhythm when you are having top-five hits, that you have to keep producing and that's not natural. Nothing that's organic, natural -- and creativity is organic -- has an ebb and a flow. It has a season. And the industry doesn't really understand that. They know how to mine you and they want constant productivity." Luckily, having sold 23 million albums worldwide buys you some clout, and Jewel says her record label, Warner, was happy to let her take her time before returning to the studio for her latest release, This Way. She calls herself an anomaly in the industry for being concerned about authenticity and songwriting craft, and she's willfully more interested in her growth as a musician than generating that next hit. "You see people trying to overcome a natural rhythm -- of needing downtime to write, a sort of winter of creativity, filling up again so you can create product again. So, people try to overcome that by finding formula in the music, and the music gets formulaic, and they start getting incredibly contrived in the innards, they start doing new looks and being more sensational every time they come out. "And you start looking like a caricature of a musician, and I didn't want that to happen," Jewel says, slouched in a chair in a Toronto hotel, outfitted in a rock-star-issue, knee-length, brown suede jacket with a fuzzy collar. The jacket obscures her T-shirt, blue jeans and Nikes, but not her gigantic belt buckle -- a trophy courtesy of her boyfriend of four years, nine-time world rodeo champ Ty Murray. At 27, Jewel still exudes a coy, girlish charm, but she looks more mature than she did when she first crooned hits such as Who Will Save Your Soul during Lilith Fair tours. Along with evolving as a person, she's developed a demand for high standards, evident when she called for more acoustic guitar during one song when she appeared on MuchMoreMusic last Sunday. She's renowned for her honesty and self-awareness, although she doesn't seem to pick up on the image that she projects when she talks about how it's necessary to charm journalists during the "dog and pony show" of record promotion. But maybe it really is the music that matters and not her image. This Way is the product of three winters of creative hibernation, and is happily free of New Age soul-searching that helped its gestation. Jewel says she decided she wanted her next album to be fun and fast, spending very little time in the studio and recording the band together instead of laying down individual vocal and instrumental tracks. "I had a very clear vision of what I wanted: I wanted it to be raw in the production value; I wanted to focus on arrangement, not relying on walls of sound to make up for lack of arrangement; I wanted it to be eclectic, and provocative." The album is certainly eclectic: alternately pop and rock 'n' roll, with the odd country twang, resembling the newly adopted one in her speech (she's living in Texas with Murray). The lyrics of the first single, the dreamy pop song Standing Still, reflect an aching desire to be wanted, fitting the return to the charts of someone who confesses she feels awkward singing on stage without holding a guitar in front of her. She's also very proud of the pointed satire Jesus Loves You, and Till We Run Out of Road, written with Murray. She's not oblivious to the fact that the type of music that made her a star - -- a lighter side of Riot Grrrl, the female-centric folkie revival in the mid-nineties -- had its bra snapped by young upstarts, such as Britney Spears or Pink. But she's not concerned that there's been a backlash in public taste. Or that she might have to preach to the unconverted this time around. She muses that music is built in cycles and that, since Bing Crosby, it naturally invites its rebels into the establishment only to unseat them with the next revolutionary. "I don't consider it a backlash. It's just a macrocosm of the human experience and you can't be constant in an emotional process. You can't always be thirsting, be striving for answers without wanting a little break. It's like being in school. You can't study all the time without wanting to eat pizza till midnight one night and say forget about it." So, credit her for apparently not giving a damn about what people think and being willing to take risks. In 1998, she produced a book of poetry A Night Without Armor, which was panned by critics but became a bestseller thanks to her zealous fan base. The following year she did a better-received turn as an actress, playing a widowed mother in Ang Lee's Civil War yarn Ride With the Devil. Jewel's explorations into acting and writing don't quite have the ego-driven mania of other performers who try new roles, and she doesn't gush about her experiences self-importantly. And she won't admit to preferring acting over singing over writing. To Jewel, life is a series of creative projects. "I don't overidentify with any of them. They're just sort of extensions. If you're going to go on a trip, are you going to take the Cadillac today or are you going to take the Suburban? You're going to get there either way, it's just a different experience. "I'm mercurial. I get bored quite easily and I have a voracious appetite for learning and I enjoy learning a lot and I like challenges. I hate not using myself. I hate not utilizing -- wasting myself; and, if I'm not learning, I feel embarrassed." While she may have been quiet on the creative front, Jewel says she is keen on returning to film and spent some of the past three years reading scripts. But acknowledges the never-ending problem of finding the right time, director and film. She also plans on releasing more books. Last year's autobiographical Chasing Down the Dawn comes out in paperback this month, and she announced during the MuchMoreMusic performance that she is planning a new book of love poems, although she confesses in an interview that she hasn't started work on it yet. For now, however, she's taking it as it comes. But Jewel is being firm with touring schedules, planning substantial breaks every month to keep her spirits and creativity up. "I'll tour less, I'll make less money, I'm sure. I may sell less records, I don't know. But at least I'll be able to have a sustainable pace," she says. "Life should be poetry and should seduce you every minute, and if you're not enjoying your life that fully, that's your own fault -- it's my own fault. It's something that's up to you to assess and take care of and readdress." ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #689 ***************************