From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #683 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, December 11 2001 Volume 06 : Number 683 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] my Jewelstock review that Rowdy reposted [SeanHooks@aol.com] [EDA] sheila driving in the snow ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA] blond hair and blue eyes ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA] another article [Fredsteve@aol.com] [EDA] Question about Jewel's appearances ["Kovacs, Mirinda" ] [EDA] SJC: converting tapes to CD ["cymbaline" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:18:41 EST From: SeanHooks@aol.com Subject: [EDA] my Jewelstock review that Rowdy reposted It was cool reading that again, thanks Rowdy. Anyway, if any of you took the time to read said repost (it was in digest 682, reposted by Rowdy White under the title NJC: Even deeper this time), I think it says a lot about where I'm coming from. Most of the people on the list now weren't on it when I posted that review back in 1996. And every now and then I get the impression that a lot of you think I'm too critical of Jewel, not really a fan, etc. That post proves that I am. It also shows exactly why I am so critical and intolerant of her recent mediocrity. That show(Jewelstock Night 1) was great because it was about Jewel being herself, baring her "soul," giving her very best. The setlist contained over 30 songs, a band for maybe 5, and the rest were well-written acoustic gems that put to absolute fucking shame a lot of the crap on the Spirit and This Way albums. Not that the majority of those songs are that bad, a few real bad ones on Spirit, This Way is relatively decent. But the songs she played that night flat out kick the crap out of the majority of the songs on ALL her albums, Pieces of You included. They might not have been comercially viable, funked-up, overproduced, potential radio/video singles, but they were real and well-written and well-sung, from the heart. So, when an artist demonstrates that she is capable of reaching that height, I find it hard to be anything less than harsh and unforgiving of her "work" that doesn't reach, nor even strive for, the aforementioned height. Now, I understand that not every Picasso painting is Guernica, and not every Joseph Heller book is Catch 22. Obviously not every Jewel show is gonna be Jewelstock Night 1, not every song is gonna be Nicotine Love. But when, under the veil of experimentation, or "trying something different", an artist puts out subpar work, I must comment on it as such. Needless to say I find This Way a relatively listenable album. It's prob'ly already seen more time in my CD player than Spirit has. Again, I could go on and on about this stuff for quite some time, without even getting into my prediction in the post from 1996 about how popularity would further box Jewel in to stagnant, hit-heavy setlists and large informal live venues, but I'll digress, and thank Rowdy again for reposting the Jewelstock review. Read that. If only to give yourself an idea of how Jewel can move you. And ask yourself if listening to Serve the Ego or Hands or Break Me or What's Simple Is True or whatever other bit of bland mediocrity has moved you in that way. Has it? I think not. Take out your Jewelstock tapes and listen to some REAL fucking music. And for god's sake, if you don't have the Jewelstock tapes, get them. Later, Sean Hooks "After you're first-rate at something, no matter what, it kind of takes the kick out of being second-rate." - -John Updike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 06:47:58 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] sheila driving in the snow sheila is one of the angels on this list that i know better than most. when i read her email about driving in the snow i never thought it had any implications of danger. shes not like that. she cares for her family and their safety and awful lot. >showing concern over somebody's safety is not beating them up. seriously >would YOU get in the car in the middle of a snow storm, or when the roads >are very icy and go for a joyride? you've got to be kidding me. yes actually i would, and i have. i lived in minnesota for a few years and thats not something thats totally uncommon... going for a slow drive on a snowy road, its not life threatening. and i put that post up before i read anything from derrick, whoever jumped on me for that. derrick and i have our own problems and thats not for you to worry about. alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 02:18:35 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: Re: (NJC) [EDA] sheila driving in the snow >I put that post up before I read anything from Derrick In your original response you said "guys" and at that point it was only Cymbie and Derrick who had commented on Sheila's post, right? If it's just one person would it be plural? I only know because I posted next, after you. All thats important is that a lot of us cared enough to warn Sheila of the dangers of this. And I have no clue who she is, just an EDA. Sean >np: Meredith Brooks 'Bitch' PS: Remember the NJC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:25:40 +1100 From: "LAuReN ." Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: New Ground and Rick Dees Yeah I caught Jewel co-hosting on Rick Dee's. It wasn't all that interesting; he didnt talk to her much she just introduced all the songs etc. Was cool to have a few hours of Jewel though ;-) Luv Lauren - ------------------------------------------------------- "What fun is power if you can't act like a rockstar?" - -Jewel 'The New Wild West' - ----Original Message Follows---- From: MagickBa11@aol.com To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] Re: New Ground and Rick Dees Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:02:46 EST I dont know when the interviews were, but over the weekend she was the co-host with rick dees for the weekly top 40. I had to go to work so I couldn't listen to it, so did anyone else catch it? Crystal EDA off and on for 3 years _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:38:42 -0800 From: Gerrit Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Safety alert WishingChair19@aol.com wrote: > > Uhmm.. so.. are you going to tell people to stop Bungee > > Jumping? and Sky Diving? and Kayaking? and River Rafting? > > What? That is a rediculous comparision. These things are 98 percent > safe if you know what you are doing. These things have regulations, > classes, you learn how to do these things expertly. You don't take > classes on how to drive like a mad person on a snowy/icy road. > Bad comparison. > ~kris~ LOL.. uhmm.. yeah.. OKAY. I take it you don't know many sky divers? Most of them take the classes and follow the regulations ONLY when they have to. They'll go out and take a chance to do stuff against the regs when they can. In any case, the BEST way to learn how to drive in snowy/icy/slippery conditions is to actually do it. Granted, I don't live in an area where I can on purpose go out driving in the snow, but I certainly can appreciate how fun it can be. I got a crash course (not literally) in driving in snowy conditions in a blizzard from Indiana to Rochester, New York one Sunday a few years ago. I got there in one piece with no problem following crazy Semi-trucks doing over 60 in a all out blizzard even tho I got blown off the road once. No problem. It's a matter of learning how your vehicle reacts to the snow and acting accordingly. Besides all that rant.. if you haven't noticed, there ARE classes on how to drive. There are also MANY more regulations on driving than there are on anything else because EVERYONE does it. And please don't tell me there is regulations against driving in the snow cuz there isn't. It's only when they shut down an entire city (ie Buffalo, NY gets that a lot) when they REQUIRE you to stay home. Drive with me someday.. I'll shit your pants. ;P But you might actually realize that I pay more attention than almost anyone on the road and can handle dangerous situations much more than Joe Schmoe who drives slow and follows all the rules. Okay.. now that I've self incriminated myself (not quite) and got 1/2 of you scared to enter a vehicle with me.. I'll stop my rant. ;> Gerrit ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:25:29 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] blond hair and blue eyes this song is does anyone believe in love anymore alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:32:15 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] NJC:derrick/sheila in the snow/ive had enough!!! derrick writes: >>Seems like I'm a better friend of her's than you are Alisa. << so i write: GOD DAMMIT DERRICK!!! what the hell do you want from me?!?!?!? i tell you over and over again i dont want your emails.... so I BLOCKED THEM! i tell you to leave me alone!! you dont listen!!! you put up a post about me on the list full of lies... YOU FRAMED ME!!! i want everyone to know that DERRICK SET ME UP!!! you caught me on the wrong night derrick! the last thing i wanted tonight was to read anything from you mentioning my name. i would have skipped it like i do all of your posts, and i did, i didnt have to read it, your comment about me was in the first line! and god if you only knew anything about sheila..... GET OVER YOURSELF!!! you are so twisted. will you ever get my point?!?!? here it is for the hundreth time: LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if it takes comming on the list to say this then so be it, cus you dont GET IT!!!! YOU DONT GET ANYTHING I SAY!!!! im sick of you, im sick of your game, im sick of reading anything with your name in it anywhere!!! there! are you happy! i gave in once more to your game you evil sadist!!! are happy?!?!? i sure hope so, im glad i could give you so much pleasure.... but dammit ive had enough! "his pleasure is my pain"-jewel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! after tonight.... i dont know if i will post ever again... maybe ill join the ranks of the silent EDAs. unless i find something terribly important. maybe just private emails from now on. goodbye!!! alisa... the now voiceless angel... so i wrote a little poem about it and here it is: GOODBYE VOCAL CHORDS vocal chords ripped from my throat voiceless and cold i shiver and shudder, and mumble and studder i hope my voice fed your sadistic ways heres a tip: voice is best with alittle salt and a lot of butter tonight my skin crawls one more word and my soul brawls so eat me fast cus ive gone and my voice is in the past - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:43:05 -0800 (PST) From: Mirko Serkovic Subject: [EDA] Archives, new thread Hi! I just wanted to say that I was really moved by the report on JewelStock recently posted... it was very authentic and honest, and I loved that. Perhaps we should start a thread on how does Jewel make you feel to get into that sort of feeling... I'll start, but I'm kind of shy... ok, Jewel makes me feel like I am known, understood... that I can be just anyone in the world and don't care what anyone else thinks (that's through her lyrics mostly). Her voice and music really moves me and strikes a chord on me, and that make the lyrics to really have an effect... a very emotional and strong one which has been a huge influence on me... Take care anyone, feel free to answer and join in, Mirko *angel from Peru* Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:37:32 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] another article Here's an article from the Toronto Star. This one is kind of weird and unresearched. Oh well. Jewel's way or no way Alaska singer has new album after two years hiatus Daphne Gordon Entertainment Reporter If there's something new about Jewel's latest album, she doesn't seem to be aware of it. "It's pretty much stuff I've been doing my whole career, I just wasn't able to do it in the studio," said the singer/songwriter, who's in town this week to promote her latest album, called This Way. "I don't know how to get excited in the studio without a band behind me," Jewel said yesterday at the Four Seasons Hotel. "So doing everything live in the studio helped a lot." The album is a mix of new and old Jewel-written songs, several of which twang with a country vibe, though Jewel says the sound isn't inspired by her new life on a Texas cattle ranch with boyfriend Ty Murray, 32, a star on the professional bull-riding circuit. "I don't really see a differentiation between kinds of music," says the 27-year-old singer, dressed down in Nike trainers and gritty jeans held up by a huge belt. "To me, using a steel guitar doesn't make a song country, it's just colours that you get to do your painting in," she says. "I don't see it as exploring genres or something. It's all the same. It's all music." Neither does Jewel seem to think there's anything exciting about This Way. At least, not about the idea of promoting it. The singer slouched and mumbled her way through the interview, apparently a reluctant victim of the standard press tour that comes with releasing a new album. You'd think she'd be a bit refreshed, after a two-year hiatus. She dropped out of the music business after her 1998 album, Spirit, sold more than 6 million copies worldwide. Jewel was frustrated with the entertainment industry and stepped out of the limelight to decide whether she really wanted to take part in it. "It's like high school," she says. "Whoever's coolest wins. After a while, everything seems to become a caricature of a pop star. Everything becomes more and more sensational, and I wanted to get away from all that. I wanted to go back to the way I was raised." The way she was raised was in Alaska, with no running water or electricity, then as a coffee shop and bar singer roaming the county in a beat-up van. She was only 17 when she wrote her 1995 debut album, Pieces Of You. While on her musical hiatus, she took up acting, and starred in director Ang Lee's Ride With The Devil. Reviews were positive, but Jewel decided to return to making music because she loves the craft of song writing. Clearly, audiences and critics are glad she's back. A recent review of This Way in Rolling Stone magazine called her "one of the most richly idiomatic female pop singers of her generation." And her fans, who tend to be from many different demographic groups, certainly didn't forget about her while she was away. When the album hit stores in November, it debuted at number 9 on the Billboard music charts. - ------ Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:14:20 -0600 From: "Kovacs, Mirinda" Subject: [EDA] Question about Jewel's appearances I was listening to my local station the other day as I was waiting to go to the doctor and they gave a tidbit of a Jewel interview that had been recorded earlier that day. I was wondering if these things are normally not planned. I didn't see it on her calendar. For that matter I didn't see anything about Minnesota at all. So my question, for MrBB or whoever can answer, is does she just randomly stop at radio stations to do interviews? Thanks, Mi Rinda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 06:50:02 -0800 From: "Carrie L" Subject: [EDA] NJC: new member Hello I am new to the list. I thought I would just introduce myself now and get it over with. *l* Anyway my name is Carrie I live in the San Diego, California area. If you want to know more about me I have a small personal site you can look at. http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon Anyway hope this is a cool list. Don't know what else to say. And I hope I did this correctly.... *note to self: "Read Do's & Don'ts again!"* heheheh ~*~ Carrie ~*~ dacarrie@hotmail.com http://www.casketcrew.com http://www.typeofans.com http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:59:36 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] SJC: converting tapes to CD does anyone know how to convert audio tapes to CD? Do I need some special stuff on my computer to be able to do that? I want to make some copies of my Jewel shows for a friend, some of which or on tape... but if I can do it to CD that would be so much better. >np: mary lou lord: got no shadow cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #683 ***************************