From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #668 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, December 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 668 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] Re: Kilcher and Harrison [space_bandits@webtv.net] Re: [EDA] Best Jewel look in a video? ["cymbaline" ] Re: [EDA] NJC - Indigo Girls update ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] NJC: What do you think? ["Jewel Fan" ] Re: [EDA] NJC: What do you think? ["Kristie Biggs" Subject: Re: [EDA] Best Jewel look in a video? > Not only os the video photographed beautifully, she is beautiful in it! I > like her hair and she looks great. I love the darker hair! There's this shot of jewel in the Life Uncommon home video, and she's probably 20 or so, and she has the darker hair, and if i remember right, a little bit of a darker shade of lipstick, its a side shot of her face, and her eyes are opened up real wide and she's smiling... she looks absolutely gorgeous like that... with the shoulder length, semi layered hair. I also like the way she looked when she appeared on letterman when WWSYS first was becoming popular, wen she was playing solo acoustic. That color of her hair... I guess it was a honey blonde almost? But yeah... I love that color. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but she looks much different now than before. Is it the lighter, longer hair? I'm not sure... She's beautiful either way, but personally I think the darker blonde/light brown hair fits her better. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:00:36 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: Kilcher and Harrison If the Beatles played no role in her life....then explain Princess Diana's? Jewel is a singer-songwriter-guitarist. I didn't realize that the show was or likely was taped the day before. But as for news of the day...remember Jewel's appearance on Leno where she muttered something about how proud she was of Clinton during that Lewinsky mess? She doesn't have to be a Harrison fan to understand his importance. Thats all I was saying. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:58:57 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: not only Jewel > Can't really agree on this one. One or two Michelle Branch posts is fine, > but I know we for one have no interest in her or Natalie > Imbrulgia(spelling?) and really would rather limit the posts we get from the > list on artists besides Jewel. Not gonna argue the point though. Mike? Don't speak for everyone. I happen to be interested in Natalie and Michelle. Just because this is a Jewel list, does that seriously mean talking about other artists is a big time No-No? I don't know about you and everyone else, but my music interests are far more diverse than listening to my Jewel CDs day in and day out cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:02:12 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC - Indigo Girls update - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kovacs, Mirinda To: Jewel (E-mail) Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: [EDA] NJC - Indigo Girls update > I don't know if any of you are fans of the Indigo Girls. But if you are I > thought I would let you know the latest news about them. Their long >awaited new album will be out February 28th. They will also begin a tour >of small clubs sometime in February too. Just thought you would be >interested to know. Sorry for the NJC. you shoudl be sorry :) you might offend those people who only listen to Jewel :) I love the Indigo Girls. They were doing a free concert at this place nearby recently (like in the past year or 2... cant remember exactly when) but i couldnt go. Found out at the last minute, and I had to work. They're a great duet though, and I'd love to see them sometime. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:10:15 -0500 From: "David & Beth" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: not only Jewel who is speaking for everyone? We=David & Beth, not we =EDAs - ----- Original Message ----- From: "cymbaline" To: "Jewel Freaks" Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: not only Jewel > > Can't really agree on this one. One or two Michelle Branch posts is fine, > > but I know we for one have no interest in her or Natalie > > Imbrulgia(spelling?) and really would rather limit the posts we get from > the > > list on artists besides Jewel. Not gonna argue the point though. Mike? > > Don't speak for everyone. I happen to be interested in Natalie and Michelle. > Just because this is a Jewel list, does that seriously mean talking about > other artists is a big time No-No? I don't know about you and everyone else, > but my music interests are far more diverse than listening to my Jewel CDs > day in and day out > > cymbie > tree hugger > -- > when night falls > it's dawn one must reach for. > -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 13:17:43 -0800 From: "Jewel Fan" Subject: [EDA] NJC: What do you think? Hey... This was kinda buggin me. I emailed a fellow EDA stating my opinions on the whole "Jewel/ Harrison" situation. He writes back saying how he can't take me seriously because I don't state whether I am male or female. Now.. My question... DO IT MATTER?!?!?! What the hell does that have to do with anything? I was really disturbed by his comment, and wanted to see how you all felt about this as well. Does one really have to state their Name and Sex to be heard? ~Jewel Fan~ http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven (long story about the name of the URL. It's a Jewel Page) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 15:16:40 -0600 From: "Kristie Biggs" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: What do you think? No....definitely not. I can not see where that would matter at all. As a matter of fact I think it's kind of weird. >>> "Jewel Fan" 12/07/2001 3:17:43 PM >>> Hey... This was kinda buggin me. I emailed a fellow EDA stating my opinions on the whole "Jewel/ Harrison" situation. He writes back saying how he can't take me seriously because I don't state whether I am male or female. Now.. My question... DO IT MATTER?!?!?! What the hell does that have to do with anything? I was really disturbed by his comment, and wanted to see how you all felt about this as well. Does one really have to state their Name and Sex to be heard? ~Jewel Fan~ http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven (long story about the name of the URL. It's a Jewel Page) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:22:01 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: Re: [EDA] Kilcher and Harrison Excellent!! I am so impressed by your compassion! It might be made a bit more pertinent if you could put your NAME to your comments, but hey, I wouldn't sign my name to something like that either. Not that I would say or type it. By the way, it's spelled m-o-u-r-n. I am sorry if you have lost family members, don't get me wrong I do know what that is like and it is an awful experience. Sean - ------------Original so-called 'Message'--------> From: jewel16rox@hotmail.com (Jewel Fan) oh please. You act like everyone must have sympithay for EVERYONE who has passed away. I dont know this harrison fellow, so I am not going to waste my time to morn over him, nor should anyone else for that matter. I do enough morning for the people who actually matter, like my own family members! If Jewel doesn't feel like morning for him, she doesn't have to. Where in the contract did it say, "to be famouse, you must morn for EVERYONE who passes away"?? Give me a break! I am really disturbed by your comments! ~Jewel Fan~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:25:53 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: What do you think? No, they do not. But it makes commentary like yours more justifiable. What did I do? Write a post saying Jewel isn't perfect? She may not have thought of saying anything because it's all been said. I don't know. I don't see why it disturbed you so much. I mean...can't people write an opinion without some nameless butt kisser getting upset? I guess not. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:38:07 EST From: KissTheFlame720@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #667 hello angels i think that my favorite video by jewel is Down So Long or Jupiter. in Down So Long, she was really pretty... and in Jupiter, i liked the images and her black eyeliner. plus, the way she moved in it was awsome. love anastasia the gothic angel X X X X X X ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 06:59:30 -0600 From: "Kovacs, Mirinda" Subject: RE: [EDA] NJC: Michelle Lit up! :-) Cymbie, Just one question for you. Why is it okay that Derrick talk about other artists (no offense meant towards you Derrick)? In fact, you will defend him when he does. But when I made one mention of Jess Klein you told me that this list was not the place for those kind of posts. You really can't have it both ways. Or is there a certain amount of time I have to be on the list before I can make NJC posts? Please don't take this the wrong way, but I feel like you have quite a double standard when it comes to certain people. I am just looking for an explanation. Thanks, Mi Rinda - -----Original Message----- From: cymbaline [mailto:cymbaline@bestnetpc.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:27 PM To: Jewel Freaks Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Michelle Lit up! :-) Yeah, that was a horrible, negative, abusive post by Mr. Karacostas. .... Derrick is such a jerk to be saying those things!!! Mike Connell should ban him again. Oh, wrong post.... Michelle Branch again????? Derrick shut the hell up!! No one wants to hear about that Britney Spears with a guitar Jewel wanna be!!!! This is a Jewel list, If I wanted to get exposed to other artists I would have subscribed to another list!!!! We don't care that you met her!!! geez, when will you stop raving about that Michelle girl! she sucks! she's not talented at all... she doesn't even play guitar!! You should still be banned, just because I hate your guts so much. This list would be a much more REFRESHING place to be without you and your pathetic posts. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:33:26 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: RE: [EDA] freedom's just another word... numerous public and private messages have assured me that there is no point in trying to get through to our list's number one trouble-maker ~ and I agree, for every post (be it list-manager Mike, with his "Go straight to hell, Derrick" post, or any of the many other EDAs who have tried to talk some sense into the boy), for each message someone sends, the egotist fires back 4 or 5 of his own, vainly trying to repudiate the facts of any matter; and, the unfortunate result is that this list gets cluttered with his repetitious garbage; the only effective solution was when he was banned from the list, and we'll see how long it takes before such a positive step need be taken again... for those few folks who don't understand why so many EDAs, including myself, have felt the need to raise our voices ~ there is some explanation that may help; the poet John Donne had some wise lines about how no one is an "island"; we're all connected in our communities sure, if we want, we could flip the tv channels and not watch those planes crashing into the World Trade Centre towers; we could choose to ignore terrorism at home or around the world; we can choose to ignore the poor and homeless on our streets; we can choose to ignore poverty or hunger as long as its not our own; we can choose to ignore anything but, if we care for each other, we can't ignore such problems and, on a much, much, smaller scale, obviously, than these national and world problems, we have a problem on this list; a member who doesn't know what it means to respect others, and who posts so much garbage and bile that he makes this list unpleasant, even intolerable, for a lot of good people; we can choose to delete his nonsense or scroll past his multitude of mindless posts, but his negativity and attacks on EDAs cannot be ignored I've said my piece, and won't again talk about or even name this pernicious individual; I know that others will continue to do so, and, if things don't improve, Mike will eventually have to deal with this list "terrorist" in some fashion; as someone pointed out in trying to deal with this goon a while back, it's a different world in which we live post-September 11; people no longer have the same tolerance for bullies, or mean-ness and stupidity in our midst; that's why there has been a heightened sense of concern by numerous EDAs, myself included, in the past few months; we care about our community and choose not to ignore peace, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:43:37 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: [EDA] (EDA) self-incrimination by the list dominator really sorry to mention this clown one more time - but, in his last message he's revealed himself so clearly, this discussion on his egocentrism can close: Derrick wrote "actually I do believe I am the funny, brilliant, interesting guy I say I am. :-) Since I am. And I don't have a problem with list members liking me. There's far more than who like you. There are maybe 3 or 4 who will say they don't like me...but if you gave me a day I bet they'd be kissing my ass...haha. People are easy to figure out you see." case closed! cheers, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 16:50:12 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] NJC: posting about other artists Knowing Cymbie, she was only kidding around...mocking the other list members. Don't take it personal. You are free to talk about any artist you wish Mirinda. Although I'm beginning to see some prejudices occur, I think the list is still a free for all place of discussion. > ---------- > From: Kovacs, Mirinda[SMTP:MiRinda.Kovacs@westgroup.com] > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:59 AM > To: Jewel Freaks > Subject: RE: [EDA] NJC: Michelle Lit up! :-) > > > Cymbie, > Just one question for you. Why is it okay that Derrick talk about other > artists (no offense meant towards you Derrick)? In fact, you will defend > him when he does. But when I made one mention of Jess Klein you told me > that this list was not the place for those kind of posts. You really > can't > have it both ways. Or is there a certain amount of time I have to be on > the > list before I can make NJC posts? Please don't take this the wrong way, > but > I feel like you have quite a double standard when it comes to certain > people. I am just looking for an explanation. > Thanks, > Mi Rinda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:04:17 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] NJC: self-incrimination by Adrian LOL....Adrian, don't you realize what you are doing? And if you were truly sorry for mentioning this, you *wouldn't* mention it! > Derrick wrote "actually I do believe I am the funny, brilliant, > interesting > guy I say I am. :-) Since I am. And I don't have a problem with list > members liking me. There's far more than who like you. There are maybe 3 > or 4 who will say they don't like me...but if you gave me a day I bet > they'd be kissing my ass...haha. People are easy to figure out you see." > Yes I wrote this in a PRIVATE e-mail to YOU. So now I see you like to cross boundaries. That's ok though. What you failed to realized, due to your self-centeredness, is that the reason I said that back to YOU is cause I was mocking YOU. Hello?? I'm a funny person, light-hearted, and you see, I have a sense of humor. It's too bad you don't. You might learn to enjoy life a little more then. I even had a Jewel reference in the above, but you probably failed to notice that as well. Are you done yet? :-) Usually when a judge says "case closed" that's what that means. But for some reason.....hehe. Derrick PS...I know you refuse to use NJC as you've proven that to be evident. I think that's a direct slap in the face of all the rules outlined when one joins this list...rules that took alot of time to make and should be obeyed. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #668 ***************************