From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #642 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, December 2 2001 Volume 06 : Number 642 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] This Way was LIVE?? ["Elizabeth Nguyen" ] [EDA] Re: Anyone have a thought? [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] VH-1 Pre show !!!! ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] RE: [EDA] thanks Tom ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] Re: Anyone have a thought? [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] AAAAAAHHHHHHHH! [NmL484@aol.com] [EDA] SS on VH1 ["FabioJJ" ] [EDA] VH1 Awards ["Scott" ] [EDA] White Ele, VH-1 ["Sarah Dowling" ] Re: [EDA] VH1 Awards ["FabioJJ" ] [EDA] VH1 awards ["jake skyles" ] [EDA] Sean, enlighten us ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:21:24 -0800 From: "Elizabeth Nguyen" Subject: Re: [EDA] This Way was LIVE?? Derrick wrote: I am also very glad that she admitted she SOLD OUT. _________________________________________ Can you please explain that to me? I read the article and didn't get that impression. What do you mean by her admitting she sold out? What did she say? Elizabeth, the-tennis-ball whacking angel Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought - Shakespeare, "Hamlet" Perfect for the Jewel Kilcher Fan! Get your Free E-mail at http://jewel.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 00:25:05 From: "Rowdy White" Subject: NJC:Re: [EDA] Jewels marriage a secret Yes, she is married, and the whole thing was a secret, but is not how everyone thinks.... When she first asked me if I would be willing, I had to ask her about Ty, and she said "well, what about him?" I knew then that things would have to be kept quiet, for the sake of her public image, my unbroken, unsmashed face, and Ty's as of yet unbloodied knuckles. That's right, she married a Texan, but not Ty.... Since he lives less than two hours away from me, I thought that it would be wise to not reveal this secrect, but since everyone started talking about it, I felt that I must stand up for my love, and my wife. She did not settle for some cow jockey wth bowed legs and cowsweat stained jeans.. Nope, instead she held out for some construction worker with bowed legs and mud splattered jeans. If he feels cheated, and wants to attempt to win her back, he can feel free to come and try. I'll be at.. (damn, lost Connell's address... I'll get back to ya'll on that) So, that is why everything was hush-hush... some EDAs got married, a couple went to work for Jewel, I just had my sights set a bit higher... Jewel hasn't quite made up her mind about how to break it to Ty, so we've agreed that she should stay on his arm in public until that gets worked out.... But if you hear of her changing the title and lyrcs to Stephenville to "Merkel, TX" you'll know that she took my advice in the matter. lol ;-) Rowdius PS( Mr BB, when you talk to her next please ask why the phone number she gave me is to some south cal pizza joint... am I just transposing some of the numbers, or what? ) >From: "Kelli Coppens" >To: Jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] Jewels marriage a secret >Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 17:44:08 -0500 > >Okay I have read enough rumors now and i for one believe that they are >true. Remember that radio dj saying she knew a secret about jewel??? >Well, guess her and Ty did it! Sneaky though. I would LOVE to see >pictures of the wedding and what her dress looked like. Bet she wore >cowboy boots!! I am sooo happy for her. KelliUtah angel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:36:14 -0500 From: "Tom Browning" Subject: [EDA] Re: that derrick K. >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:48:06 EST >From: SeanHooks@aol.com >Subject: [EDA] missed Kilborn and that Derrick K. guy > > Also, I >am now convinced this Derrick kid is pretty delusional. Controversial >lyrics? i'll save derrick the trouble by saying...you don't know him...since i know that's what he's gonna say! >And you again expose your own horrible taste in music by >saying your favorite songs off the album are "Break Me" and "Serve the Ego" >and that you like Shakira. You have some serious issues with your tastes in >music and your views on women in general. Put those 3 things together, what >do you think? calm down dude...i like those two songs immensly...and i would say i'm a tad offended that you would assume that people who dig these songs have some problem with women. i still don't quite understand what your problem with these songs...in the case of serve the ego...it's clearly IRONY!!! 'break me' is a sweet love song...jewel is just being honest about her feeling towards a man she admires (in this case ty) i can relate to 'break me' a lot...and i'm a guy...i can think of a few instances when i was so desparate for someone's love that i would do almost anything for their love ('break me/ just let me feel your love again) These songs are not something that actually puts women down women in any kinda subservient way...they are good songs...good musically (especially in serve the ego's case) i didn't like 'break me' the album verstion as much as the original acoustic. so think a little before you make wild accusations about how people 'perceive' women based upon some of their musical preferences. granted i don't enjoy shakira...saw her on SNL and all i saw was some ass shaking and little else...not much musical content there...but i like guns n' roses 'back off bitch' ...does that make me a male pig? it's just an honest expression of someone's frustration with women...jewel's 'break me' and 'serve the ego' are just the same...so i had to just correct you perceptions a little...i'm sure derrick will do the same ...all i know is what i think of when i hear these songs...i do not think of subserviance at all...i think of an expression of love and hate, whether that be letting go of your own ego enough to love someone (break me), or to spite someone with irony for having an overinflated ego(serve the ego). so yea, there ya go tom the 'cactus' angel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Re: Anyone have a thought? Interesting...but my issue, and I've said it here three times before with no response whatsoever, is her lack of guitar playing. Why in the world would she NOT play on her albums? And why does noone care? I wouldn't buy a cd from someone known for playing an instrument which they don't play on the disc, I mean obviously I do :-) but I don't like it! I don't at all get it though and I certainly don't get the apathy here. Did I phrase that well? Probably not although I don't want to *upset* anyone. I'd just like to hear ANY comments on this!~! Any..! Sean ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:59:46 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] VH-1 Pre show !!!! Well I just saw Jewel's "ta-ta's" (I mean Jewel) on the VH-1 pre-show for the awards show. :-) They interviewed her some. The outfit she was wearing was quite colorful and didn't leave much to the imagination. I thought maybe it was just me at first, but literally one minute ago they had this "people" magazine fashion guy on the show along with the VH-1 person, and they were doing a run down sort of for the various fashion statements from the celebrities who were there. When they got to Jewel, all you saw on the monitor behind them was Jewel's chest...and the guy said "everyone, this is Jewel's chest"! LOL It was SOO funny! So they talked about her chest some, then about the kimono type of outfit she was wearing (still showing the close up of her chest the whole time) and comparing it to something Madonna would wear. Not sure whether they liked it or not though. During the interview earlier, the lady from VH-1 said it looked like Jewel just threwh something on for the show...haha...oh well. I guess we'll have to see what happens during the show itself. Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:11:07 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: RE: [EDA] thanks Tom >i'll save derrick the trouble by saying...you don't know him...since i >know that's what he's gonna say! - --------- hehehe...thanks for the help! But actually I didn't say that...I think it's pretty much implied now that no one on this list really knows me anyway. :-) >calm down dude...i like those two songs immensly...and i would say i'm a >tad offended that you would assume that people who dig these songs have >some problem with women. - ------------------------ I agree...and you, me, and I guess 90% or more of the rest of the list were just told by Sean that we have horrible musical taste! LOL >so think a little before you make wild accusations about how people >'perceive' women based upon some of their musical preferences. - ------------------ I agree with this too! :-) Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:17:25 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Re: Anyone have a thought? She plays some on "Pieces Of You". "Spirit" and "This Way" it's all handed over to others. Received: from smtpin-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.31) by storefull-616.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 7B141209; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:07:49 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: space_bandits@webtv.net Received: from hotmail.com (f38.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.38]) by smtpin-102-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 27915FC for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:07:26 -0800 Received: from 63.172.9.4 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 02:07:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.172.9.4] From: "Sarah Dowling" To: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: Anyone have a thought? Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:07:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2001 02:07:26.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[40EE4C60:01C17B9F] She doesn't play guitar on her albums?? At all?? Then, who is playing it? I've never heard that before... Hmm... Maybe it is part of the whole not enjoying laying down tracks in the studio thing?? I dunno... Interesting, though. Sorry I couldn't provide any info. :)Sarah _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:26:07 EST From: NmL484@aol.com Subject: [EDA] AAAAAAHHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH!!!!!! She's singin she's singin! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I'm a little bit too excited..... hehehehehehhehe...... I'm pathetic i know... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 00:35:39 -0200 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: [EDA] SS on VH1 I got to listen to SS through the live webcams, and it's really strange the way she ends it!! She cuts my favorite part of the song! "Or are you passing me by, or am I standing still?" ... Fabio PS: I think she should have played another song... >> www.geocities.com/fabiojj <|> BRASIL <|> Jewel+Sarah << >> www.jewelbrasil.f2s.com <|> BRASIL <|> Fa-clube Jewel << >> www.jeweljk.com <|>JEWEL <|> official website << >> music <|> STANDING STILL <|> Jewel <|> THIS WAY << >> http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp << ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:35:04 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: [EDA] VH1 Awards Well, that was alright.. I think she looked great (I love the whole quasi-geisha thing), and while she did do SS, which I'm not a big fan of live, it did sound better than on most of the other performances and was overall pretty nice.. I'm not sure what else to say.. I'll leave it to the vultures on this list to nitpick every little move she does to hell.. You know who you are.. =) PS -- She still should've done Love Me Just Leave Me Alone ;-) scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevans56 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:37:35 -0600 From: "Sarah Dowling" Subject: [EDA] White Ele, VH-1 Hallo my winged ones (oh-so-angelic as of late!) :) LoL Since the White Elephant deadline is fast approaching, I just wanted to clarify what types of things we are supposed to send. Something around the house that you think another EDA may enjoy was what I got out of it. Is that about right? Or a small, thoughtful, funny, or Jewel-ish token?? Okay, I was just about to ask what time she'd be on VH-1, but my friend called to fill me in, and I caught it. I love the woman's music, and I'm not big on psycho-analyzing her at every turn, but I guess I'll add my two cents. To me, just now, she seemed like a woman in her element. The interaction she had with fans, the engagement she showed with the music, seemed like the picture of everything she hoped for when she made the decision to pursue the career. If everything we told our mothers we'd become worked out like this, we'd all be pretty blessed. Sometimes, it's easy to forget that in the work, the tears and stress. But I think Jewel remembers. And that's the last thing I'll say about her emotional state, because that's all as a fan, I can gather. Peace, Sarah _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 00:40:40 -0200 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: Re: [EDA] VH1 Awards Nobody will talk about Jewel... BUT, if she had done LMJLMA... oh, boy, it would have been totally different... it's a pity... Fabio >> www.geocities.com/fabiojj <|> BRASIL <|> Jewel+Sarah << >> www.jewelbrasil.f2s.com <|> BRASIL <|> Fa-clube Jewel << >> www.jeweljk.com <|>JEWEL <|> official website << >> music <|> STANDING STILL <|> Jewel <|> THIS WAY << >> http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp << - ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott To: JFreaks Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:35 AM Subject: [EDA] VH1 Awards > Well, that was alright.. I think she looked great (I love the whole > quasi-geisha thing), and while she did do SS, which I'm not a big fan of > live, it did sound better than on most of the other performances and was > overall pretty nice.. I'm not sure what else to say.. I'll leave it to the > vultures on this list to nitpick every little move she does to hell.. You > know who you are.. =) > > PS -- She still should've done Love Me Just Leave Me Alone ;-) > > > scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] > AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevans56 . scott@tanweb.com > Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] > Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 21:42:12 -0500 From: "jake skyles" Subject: [EDA] VH1 awards Yay, I thought she was greeat.(definalty better than No Doubt's new song, blah). She looks really good too, I love all the clevage, lol. By the way, what Derrik said is not true, when the VH1 vj said it looked like she just threw something on, it was more along the lines of, "It looks like you just threw it on and you look so beautiful." and the people magazine guy said that he DID like it. I think Derrik is just being his usual negative self. Also I loved it when Jewel made fun of Britney in the pre-show. She said something like "Oh yeah, I'm gonna have 20 dancers in nothing but baby oil" and the vj said "hith a big Boa around your neck?" and she goes "Oh Yeah". It was funny. Jake _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:45:54 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] Sean, enlighten us Sean, please enlighten us at to how you think the lyrics, at least a line or two anyway, for Jesus Loves You aren't controversial? The topic she mentions is one of the most controversial issues there is. One reason why the word used to refer to it is even taboo to say on this list...one reason my original reply about this wasn't allowed through. So even Mike himself realizes this topic is a controversial one. I'll just say it rhymes with "a portion". :-) Derrick ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #642 ***************************