From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #632 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, November 30 2001 Volume 06 : Number 632 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] My three questions thingy lol [JeWeLzKeWL@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel's "wage" ["David & Beth" ] [EDA] 3 questions ["cymbaline" ] Re: [EDA] 3 questions [KSco2001@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel's "wage" [Mike Connell ] Re: [EDA] Very mad... & Question 4 Mike [Mike Connell ] Re: [EDA] Jewel is just fine [RachKat926@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel is just fine [RunTontoRun@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Re: Jewel on the list ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] NJC Money and happiness ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] take me off the list, please [BoeZanDoll@aol.com] Re: [EDA] ponder this for a moment [Cember76@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel is just fine ["Larry G." ] [EDA] Re: AOL Browser [MLewisFL@aol.com] [EDA] NJC: Changing Name for a While [KSco2001@aol.com] [EDA] 3 questions and spying on the list [Tracy Hale Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's "wage" Why do you all have to be apologists for Jewel. None of us knows what she makes, BUT I guarantee it is more than any of us, and that she doesn't work as hard or any harder than any of us. She's famous, that doesn't make her better than us or a harder worker. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's "wage" > I am sure Jewel would love you guys to write her paycheck. I am not sure you > realize the costs involved in making, promoting and producing a CD. > > Also, to say she was making money from day one of POY is insane. Record > companies "invest" in artists, but they expect to be paid back. Nobody knows > for sure, but I can imagine Jewel was paying back Atlantic deep into 1996 > when YWMFM started to climb. They invested a tremendous amount into her for > two solid years before sales got to a breakeven level. > > Tours are to promote and sell albums and for an artist like Jewel, probably > rarely make much money (except for the venue, and the payroll of those who > she/Atlantic employ.) And I don't think we all realize how expensive it is > to be rich and famous (those limos aren't free you know) :-P > > Again, I am assuming here, but I would guess her biggest nest egg came from > writing. (Given the material was already done and just needed to be > repurposed into a book or two.) > > What has her set for life are the residual royalties from songs that will > probably be played for a long time to come. So yes, she is doing ok for > herself - but that doesn't mean the money can't be eroded over a lifetime. > You only have so much time in the sun and you have to secure as much as > possible to save for the future. (Kind of like pro athletes.) So even if we > accept she's making $100 per hour now, I guarantee you that in the future > that will be substantially less and the money she's making and saving now > will have to carry the load. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:01:35 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] 3 questions if i could ask jewel three questions... they'd be: 1) what is the square root of 978,554,329.384,124,990? 2) how many bull riders does it take to screw in a light bulb? 3) will you pull my finger? >np: leftover salmon cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:07:16 EST From: KSco2001@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] 3 questions In a message dated 11/29/2001 8:06:01 PM Central Standard Time, cymbaline@bestnetpc.com writes: > 3) will you pull my finger? > > I WILL PULL YOUR FINGER CYMBIE!!!!!!!!!!! LET ME LET ME!!! ~KRIS~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:12:53 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's "wage" This "Jewel's wages" thread brings one obvious question to my mind. Does Jewel punch a clock? (and I mean with a timecard, not when she gets mad at a reporter or a fan or Sean "P Diddy" Hooks' reviews of her CDs) MrBB? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:09:08 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] Very mad... & Question 4 Mike Elleinad had an enquiring mind and wanted to know: > Mike do you have the number new > members that have joined the list since Nov. 13th? I was just wondering. Since the day before This Way was released, subscribership for each of the three versions of this list underwent the following dramatic changes: Jewel: was 324 (is now 326) Jewel-Digest: was 637 (is now 639) Jewel-News: was 849 (is now 840) In case you were wondering, all-time highs for each were: Jewel: 893 (is now 324) Jewel-digest: 1084 (is now 639) Jewel-news: 1355 (is now 0840) All the highs were in November of 1997. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:18:35 EST From: RunTontoRun@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Very mad... & Question 4 Mike HE LIVES!!!!!!! YAY!!!! Haven't heard from you in a long time!!! YAY for MIKE!!! - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:21:47 -0500 From: "George Rue" Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel on the list That's a huge over statement. I can think of dozens of other artist, who are on a never-ending tour, constantly . THE hardest working artist on the planet, is BB King. ( I know you guys are like "Who's That"). Through the 60's/70's/80's/90's BB King as done 300-350 shows per year. Now at the age of 75 he still does 200+ shows each year. So far Jewel has performed less than 10 shows in 2001. and about only 15 shows in 2000. Looks like she's had a lot of free time on her hands. >From: AquaBearer@aol.com >Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel on the list >She is apparently the hardest working person who ever walked the planet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:30:10 EST From: RachKat926@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel is just fine NO..... you know what? I was going to stay out of this, but now I'm not. Money can't buy happiness-- however cliche that sounds. Just because you have money does not mean that you do not have the right to be unhappy or have a f*cking bad day. How dare you say that ANYONE in this world does not have to right to be unhappy. How naive are you? You DO NOT know, as though you may think, what goes on in a person's life. You ARE NOT psychic, and you cannot pretend to believe that although a person may have fame and wealth that makes them immune to disappointments in people (fans included) or in themselves. I am so sick of listening to people who think that material things are "band-aids" to their personal problems or feelings. Jewel, as well as any other human being, has the right, despite what you all may think. I hear it all the time "you have EVERYTHING, how dare you EVER be unhappy." I'm sick of it- and I apologize for taking this personally but I couldn't sit quietly any longer. Get over it, and let people be PEOPLE. ~Rachel~ Check out my LiveJournal at http://www.livejournal.com/~rachkat926/ "How true it is that words are but vague shadows of the volumes we mean." Theodore Dreiser ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:34:46 EST From: RunTontoRun@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel is just fine No Money can't buy happness.... But I sure would like... ALOT! - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:32:43 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: Jewel on the list Man, BB King is still alive and kicking, huh? lol.... Man for such an old guy he is one of the most awesome guitarists. If my grandpa started rocking out on an electric guitar.... another group that tours non stop: Phish. They pretty much toured and recorded nonstop for nearly 17 years. Rumor has it, they broke up. Ha! I didn't know taking a a hiatus after touring for 17 years, so they can spend time with their families, was called breaking up. there is a big difference between "taking a break" and "breaking up" So anyway.. yeah, they've been touring since I was 4. I cant even imagine how i missed out on such great music until a few years ago, lol. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:45:34 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] NJC Money and happiness I know money can't buy happiness.... but just for entertainment, what would you do if you won $10 million in the lottery? me, i'd buy a volkswagon camper van... custom made to be brand new (that way I know its in good shape guarenteed) but to look vintage (1965-70) then i'd buy a taylor guitar. and buy a house. not a ritzy mansion.... but an old house in st augustine, with a front porch and a stoop :) i love stoops. so I figure I'd have spent a million or less, and i'd be satisfied with what i got, and i'd give the rest of the money to charity. cause they're 2 material things i want in life. a taylor guitar and a VW van, but I'm poor... so the only way i'll ever get either is if i win lotto, lol. The house I'll get either way cause I can always get a mortgage. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:49:04 EST From: BoeZanDoll@aol.com Subject: [EDA] take me off the list, please ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:52:43 EST From: Cember76@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] ponder this for a moment In a message dated 11/28/2001 6:10:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, small_cross@yahoo.com writes: > Cymbie, can I have your autograph? > Lmao, > Joe > me too me too!!!! lol December ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:07:23 -0800 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel is just fine It's way ahead of whatever's in second place, though. ;-) - -=-Larry-=- cymbaline wrote: > > As much as I love you, Derrick.... money can't buy happiness. Money isn't > the key to having a happy life. Just cause jewel (or any celebrity) is a > millionare, doesn't mean they should be happy. > > Because no matter how much money one might have, or how many possessions > they might own, it doesn't fill up empty spaces inside someone's soul. > > cymbie > tree hugger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:21:34 EST From: MLewisFL@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: AOL Browser Just a note here...as a fellow web designer, I really feel for the J-website-team here, and would just like to provide this advice to my fellow AOL users: Don't use the AOL Browser. It stinks. You are going to miss out on things. Things aren't going to work right. Download Netscape or IE. It's free. Start the download one night before you go to bed. Use it. It will make the world a better place. Thanks! ml The AOL-Browser-but-not-AOL-Bashing Angel In a message dated 11/29/01 3:13:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: > An important thing to remember is that when the calendar is full, as it > will be for the foreseeable future, and when the file itself is quite > large, you will often not be able to load the most current calendar > unless you clear your browsers cache. This is particularly important if > you are checking it more than once a day and specifically applies to all > AOL people because their browser often retains the last loaded file > unless you clear your cache AND shut down and reboot. This is one of the > drags of using the AOL browser and there is nothing we can do about it. > Users of other browsers should make a habit of refreshing the browser > when checking the calendar, if you want to be certain you are loading > the most current file. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:43:22 EST From: KSco2001@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NJC: Changing Name for a While Hi EDA's I am changing my screename maybe for a while maybe indefinately. My new name for the list will be Wishingchair19@aol.com. For personal purposes still im me and e-mail me at Ksco2001@aol.com I just want to seperate my personal from the jewel stuff. love ~kris~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:51:08 -0800 (PST) From: Tracy Hale Subject: [EDA] 3 questions and spying on the list Hey everyone, since most people are answering the questions instead of asking them, here are my 3 for Jewel. 1.) Would you ever get a piercing or a tattoo, and if so where would it be? 2.) Beisdes writing, what do you enjoy doing on your day off? 3.) Whats your favorite show or Movie? There they are, but I have a question for all of you. If you would ever somehow become famous and had a fan list like this one, would you join it and spy on what people say about you? I have to say that I would, but just to see the positive messages that would give suggestions, ya know. I just thought it would be interesting to see what yall would say :-). Angel Eyes O:) ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:04:42 From: "Rowdy White" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC Money and happiness Aye money is not everything... I've quit $25 an hour jobs to bust ass for $6 an hour because I was bored with the former job..(but then, I never claimed to be very bright either ;-) ) I've quit jobs to go to EDA gatherings, I've quit them to watch sunrises... Money is a relative thing... Sure, I've had ramen noodles for supper most of this week, but next week it might be steak. No, things are not always peachy when I'm closer to the food bank than the steakhouse, but then, they're not always peachy when my billfold is too fat to close either. While I cannot speak from having tons of money, I've had some, and I've had none, and truly there were good and bad days during both periods of time. I guess the only thing to do is to keep things in prespective no matter which phase you're in at the moment. As for myself I try to fast 24 hours once a month, and sleep on the ground/floor once a month as well whether money is abundant or not. When I'm having to save cans and weight the thought of meat against the price of a .22 shell I try to spend a little time or money on something as simple as a haircut or yard work.. It seems to help... As for the thought of winning a $10million lotto? Many nights, waiting to fall asleep, I've explored that thought... the details are long and boring, but in short I would: 1. Pay off my debts, real or imagined, and then pay off the debts of my two closest friends. 2. Funnel at least one million each to two certain non-profits 3. set aside a small tract of land with a small house in the most remote area of texas I could find at the time. 4. Fill that land with the things I need to start my own business. 5. Lavish the three people in my life that have truly helped me, lifted me up, or just listened to my rants with everything from small ranches, trips, cars, etc.. 6. Travel. Anywhere, everywhere.. Truly throw a dart at the map and go, no joke. and again, and again... this includes reading every historical in Texas. 8. Books and learning... I'd have a library... not of stiff bound books, at least not when I got finished.. I'm talking well used, dog-eared, stained pages... My books are for reading, not decoration... and slip in some college in there somewhere as well. 9. Give the rest away, all of it.. not to orgs or chairty, just go down the street leaving $20s on windshields, $100s for tips for $10 meals at Denny's, buried in sandboxes in school yards, with a map left laying around(Xmarks the spot), in the pockets of coats at thrit shops and garage sells, in the middle of good books in the library, tacked to those bulltin boards in walmart, in the middle of the value packs of ramen soup in the supermarket, in the coin returns of pay phones, all over construction sites... Once the money is gone I'll either make my business plans work or I won't (I prolly won't, I'd lose interest in them for something else) and if not I could always sell the equipment and the land and still be better off than I was before the lotto. cheers, Rowdy "Out of nothing, into nothing" >From: "cymbaline" >To: "Jewel Freaks" >Subject: [EDA] NJC Money and happiness >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:45:34 -0500 > >I know money can't buy happiness.... but just for entertainment, what would >you do if you won $10 million in the lottery? > >me, i'd buy a volkswagon camper van... custom made to be brand new (that way I >know its in good shape guarenteed) but to look vintage (1965-70) > >then i'd buy a taylor guitar. > >and buy a house. not a ritzy mansion.... but an old house in st augustine, >with a front porch and a stoop :) i love stoops. > >so I figure I'd have spent a million or less, and i'd be satisfied with what i >got, and i'd give the rest of the money to charity. > >cause they're 2 material things i want in life. a taylor guitar and a VW van, >but I'm poor... so the only way i'll ever get either is if i win lotto, lol. >The house I'll get either way cause I can always get a mortgage. > > > >cymbie >tree hugger >-- >when night falls >it's dawn one must reach for. >-a. camus - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #632 ***************************