From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #608 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, November 25 2001 Volume 06 : Number 608 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [EDA] NJC: White Elephant, anyone? ["New World Warehouse" ] [EDA] songs at work [Cember76@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel/Poltz [AEmerald78@aol.com] [EDA] Trumpet in THIS WAY [Mirko Serkovic ] [EDA] NJC Jewel 'Skin' Wanted For The Sims ["Rowley" ] [EDA] new band-Jewel loves the edas? [NewWildWest@aol.com] [EDA] Re: Jewel loves the edas? [space_bandits@webtv.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:10:09 -0600 From: "New World Warehouse" Subject: RE: [EDA] NJC: White Elephant, anyone? I'm all for this...I'm just worried about how many flakes we may end up with in all of this. I know I have quite a bit of Jewel stuff that is "collecting dust" that I might part with in the spirit of this. If you can't find anyone else, I'll be more than happy to do the drawing...I'm not a hardcore veteran (think I've been around about 2-3 years now), but if there is someone more qualified, then let them do it. Either way, you got my vote. Lew www.coilback.com Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 03:53:23 From: "Rowdy White" Subject: [EDA] NJC: White Elephant, anyone? Hey, Well, I've not kept up with the xmas thread, but I've an idea.. Why not an EDA White Elephant gift exchange this year? Okay, What's a White Elephant? Basically it is: Folks send a list volunteer their names and address via email. The volunteer cuts up slips of paper with the different names on them. He/she has a blind drawing to match up the givers and receivers (you are on both lists . . . pledge to send a gift puts you on the receiving end also). We notify the senders of their designated victim . . . oops, I meant receiver. ;) You pick a gift . . . it's supposed to be something that's been collecting dust at your place, whatever that something would be is up to you. And the person sending you something does the same. The person getting a gift IS NOT getting their's from the same person they sent one to. Make it simple, make it crazy, its up to you.. Maybe an angelfood tape, maybe one of those silver sexy lady cutouts seen on trucks.... it's up to you.. Since there are children on the list, just make sure you use a bit of judgement on what you stick in the box!..So, post to the list if you are wanting in on something like this, and also if you would like to be a volunteer to make the drawing of names.. Perhaps that volunteer should be a long time list member, as that some people might not feel comfortable sending their addys to a "stranger"... So, Mike, Amy, Dennis, Jason, Tammy, any of ya'll free enough to do something like this? And once the volunteer is selected, or singled out as the case may be ;-) the people who want to do this email that volunteer with their names, and addys, and later the volunteer will email back with someone's name to send something to.... sound fun? Rowdy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:25:02 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel's current state/ performing solo Rachel, good to hear from you. Even on the new cd...the songs that matter the most, the ones that speak to my heart and define all that I've gone through so eloquently...are 'Grey Matter' and 'Sometimes It Be That Way'. It's no coincidence that both tracks are just Jewel, I don't think. It's songs like these that make me think of what Sean Penn said six years ago, "She's the new Bob Dylan." Yes, but with the most beautiful voice I've ever heard. Received: from smtpin-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.121) by storefull-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 2107A1E9; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:00:50 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: space_bandits@webtv.net Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by smtpin-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id F15AB1DF; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAP609Rj018943; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) with SMTP id fAP5xw9h018907; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:59:36 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAP5xYRj018854 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) id fAP5xX1B018853 for jewel-outgoing; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAP5xQRj018845 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from RachKat926@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id p.152.48f577e (3983) for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:59:14 -0500 (EST) From: RachKat926@aol.com Message-ID: <152.48f577e.2931e2b2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:59:14 EST Subject: [EDA] Jewel's current state/ performing solo To: Jewel@smoe.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Return-path: From: RachKat926@aol.com Full-name: RachKat926 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:58:51 EST Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's current state/ performing solo To: space_bandits@webtv.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain In a message dated 11/24/01 7:39:49 PM Central Standard Time, space_bandits@webtv.net writes: <> That sums it up right there :) That's totally true ~Rachel~ Check out my LiveJournal at http://www.livejournal.com/~rachkat926/ "How true it is that words are but vague shadows of the volumes we mean." Theodore Dreiser ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:24:16 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] RE: jewel's band >I remember the Higher Ground Benefit Concert being announced - it was >around June of 99... and they'd been playing together since january. >That's about 6 months. - ------------------- But the footage on the DVD is from a show in April, 1999. So that would reduce it to 3-4 months. >I wrote to MrBB regarding this and he said that Jewel put the band >together three weeks ago for the promotional phase.. but the concert >touring phase is still five months away and that she still has plenty of >time to determine the actual lineup of the concert band between now and >then - - ------------- Well this band was with her in August at Humphrey's (so I'm told). That would make it slightly more than 3 weeks old...more like 3 months. :-) So now we're back to apples for apples. 3 months for the old band being compared to 3 months for the new one. >so i think it's safe to say that this is definitely not the >"final band"... whether or not she uses any of it's members is yet to be >seen I suppose. But it certainly hasn't been announced that this is the >touring band. - ----------------- It wasn't announced as "the touring band", correct. But it WAS announced, back in August, for everyone to come to Humphreys as she would be debuting her "new band" at that show. Come out and see Jewel with her new band! Something like that. Seemed rather "permanent" sounding to me at least. Otherwise not so much attention would have been drawn to "her band". ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 02:11:46 EST From: Cember76@aol.com Subject: [EDA] songs at work Hey guys I work at a steak house. And tonight we had on a top 100 pop station. Usually we play country but sometimes we play pop. But on to my point not only did they play Standing Still but they also played Foolish Games. In the course of about 3 hours. I think that is pretty good cause the station we tune into is like a business radio station. Or maybe a satellite thing. So Jewel is getting good airtime there. Also I would really be interested in seeing some pics from Conan. Since it's such a hot topic. I also want to welcome all those new edas out there. December ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:20:07 EST From: AEmerald78@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel/Poltz I just wanted to let you guys know that Steve isn't around right now because he is in the studio and is planning a March '02 release date on his new disc. He probely won't be touring with Jewel just for the fact that he'll be doing one of his own. The awesome thing being he has his own record label now so that means he is his own boss and this record should be intresting :-) For more info about Steve or too see tour dates or pics of him in the studio go to www.poltz.com I just wanted to share all that info because quite a few people have asked about him and thinking him and Jewel don't get along any more or what not and that's not the case. Take Care, Angela ~born an angel~ ________________________________________________________________ >I was just wondering, why doesn't S. Poltz play in Jewel's band??? Isn't he >the one who helped her so much in her beginning? I've seen him in some of >her concerts...Austin City Limits, i think. Is he not a good enough player >or don't they get along anymore?? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 05:56:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mirko Serkovic Subject: [EDA] Trumpet in THIS WAY Hi everyone! In the instrumentation credits of THIS WAY, a trumpet is included. I don't seem to heart it anywhere... can someone tell me please in which song is it? Thanks, Mirko Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:03:02 -0000 From: "Rowley" Subject: [EDA] NJC Jewel 'Skin' Wanted For The Sims After the release of the latest edition of 'The Sims' Expansion Pack, I was wondering if anyone has a good Jewel Skin for the game. If so could you let me know? Also if someone doesn't but plays the game, and has the ability to make one could you let me know. Thanks Nick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:57:50 -0800 From: Uri Cancio Subject: [EDA] Jewel and the band Well, I've been reading your comments on the band, I have to say that they are not that bad.. I think the drummer is great and it's good to have a second accoustic, that allows her to let go of the guitar whenever she wants to , she can move around, dance.. etc.. I know that the last band she had was great, but for some reason they are not with her anymore and this band, for real , is not bad. Jewel is the front of the band of course and if we don't see her smiling and all bushy tailed to sing, we assume that something's wrong. It's obvious that she doesn't like the whole studio thing, I'm pretty sure that when she gets to all these tv things there's the question of time and lighting and "Jewel make sure you look at this camera" or "Jewel make sure the song ends here" and a bunch of stuff that we don't get to see. That's enough for someone as simple and not so full of herself to be uncomfortable. Maybe she's also a little tired, who knows. The truth is that if she wants to sell and get more people to buy records she has to put up a front and sometimes that's hard...look at what happened to Mariah, she burned out and went a little crazy and had to comit herself...Jewel has good people on her side and I'm pretty sure that they're looking out for her not to go overboard...once she start touring it will be different, she loves people, she loves to sing in front of an audience and connect with them, not with a camera.. so , let's just support her and keep enjoying the new music and her come back.. I'm going to see her in a couple of weeks and I'm sure I'll have a good review of her performance live.. take care Uri ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:11:41 EST From: NewWildWest@aol.com Subject: [EDA] new band-Jewel loves the edas? I agree edas chould be more supportive of her comeback and give her half a chance to play concerts with this or whatever band before getting so judgemental. Two guys are the same as the Humphreys concerts-only the bass and lead guitar. All the other guys are different guys. So many assumptions based on the longevity of this band when they only played together for a few weeks and never even played a concert together. What have they played other than one song-Standing Still? On Conan I thought the adlib yelp she did at the end of Standing Still made it more intense than other shows. It's like she threw herself into the song even more to compensate for the distraction. You could see she was distracted but if you only listen and turn the picture off you'll hear one of the best versions anyway. Please don't take this wrong but I heard Jewel loves the eda listserv people and I'm trying to understand why. I've only been here a few months myself but I see mostly negative speculation and mean spirited nonconstructive criticism. This is an observation from a 30 year old who expected more but still has hopes of understanding what Jewel sees in this group. I read the eda welcome message and the website but it doesn't explain that part of it. Can someone explain or point me to an answer? Wes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:51:44 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel loves the edas? I've been here less than a week but I haven't read anything I saw as mean-spirited so far. It's fair to criticize anyone in the public eye, that goes with the territory don't you think? If someone doesn't like her band there's nothing wrong with saying so. I mean, everyone gets job reviews and if somethings wrong then it should be fixed. I think it's right for people who do love and support Jewel with their money to offer even-handed criticism. The 'fan-boy' (so to speak) mentality of "She can do no wrong" won't help her. That sort of blind faith has destroyed the artistic credibility of a lot of artists who saw no reason to challenge themselves. If Jewel sees any of the messages here concerning her new band, how do you know she doesn't agree with some of it anyway? There's no way to tell at this point. But she loves the EDA because the EDA's love her, I would imagine :-). I was on a Yes list, and there were some really nasty things said about one of their members who didn't contribute much. I thought it went too far. I haven't seen anything like that on here. Sean np: Maria McKee "Life Is Sweet" Received: from smtpin-101-9.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.149) by storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-9.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id EE7A51A4; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:13:00 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: space_bandits@webtv.net Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by smtpin-101-9.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id BE4DE172; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAPJCVRj018866; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) with SMTP id fAPJCSqX018863; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:12:06 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAPJC2Rj018819 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) id fAPJC1a6018818 for jewel-outgoing; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAPJBrRj018813 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from NewWildWest@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id p.170.4856a00 (1321) for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:11:41 -0500 (EST) From: NewWildWest@aol.com Message-ID: <170.4856a00.29329c6d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:11:41 EST Subject: [EDA] new band-Jewel loves the edas? To: jewel@smoe.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk I agree edas chould be more supportive of her comeback and give her half a chance to play concerts with this or whatever band before getting so judgemental. Two guys are the same as the Humphreys concerts-only the bass and lead guitar. All the other guys are different guys. So many assumptions based on the longevity of this band when they only played together for a few weeks and never even played a concert together. What have they played other than one song-Standing Still? On Conan I thought the adlib yelp she did at the end of Standing Still made it more intense than other shows. It's like she threw herself into the song even more to compensate for the distraction. You could see she was distracted but if you only listen and turn the picture off you'll hear one of the best versions anyway. Please don't take this wrong but I heard Jewel loves the eda listserv people and I'm trying to understand why. I've only been here a few months myself but I see mostly negative speculation and mean spirited nonconstructive criticism. This is an observation from a 30 year old who expected more but still has hopes of understanding what Jewel sees in this group. I read the eda welcome message and the website but it doesn't explain that part of it. Can someone explain or point me to an answer? Wes ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #608 ***************************