From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #605 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, November 24 2001 Volume 06 : Number 605 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] christmas within the EDAs ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] further speculation on Conan ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] RE: [EDA] Jewel's current state ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] imagine this :-) (fiction) ["Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: Re: [EDA] christmas within the EDAs Peronally, I don't think thats a great idea, unless the people who sign up are ACTUALLY going to do it. And if they're going to send cards, they should send them to everyone on the list... don't pick and choose. When I did it, I sent out quite a few cards.... I forgot how many... somewhere in the 10-20 range (i forgot how many were on the list.) and how many of those people sent a card my way? One. If we do this.... please people! Don't sign up for the card exchange if you only intend on being a reciever and not a sender. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:42:17 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] jewel's band Hey I think we have to take into account the fact that she had been playing with the Spirit Tour guys for over 6 months when the Life Uncommon DVD footage was shot. She's only been playing with these guys for a few weeks now. I have heard some of the songs from the Humphreys shows, and frankly, for first shows they sounded pretty good. We'll have to wait and see how the Christmas Radio Concerts go ... and if I get tickets to the I & I I'll for sure let you know how they seem together live. I think that'll be the test... but I also think Jewel will have NO problem firing these guys if they are continually messing up and don't get things together for the tour in December. Obviously she wants to have the best group possible, and if it doesn't work out I'm sure she'll can them (or at least some of them) and replace them before she starts touring for real next year. Also, don't forget during the promotional appearances for Spirit (the hands appearances) she had totally different musicians playing than during the Spirit Tour. There is a chance that she has hired these guys for the promotional tour (and the christmas concerts) and she'll be bringing the old band back for the tour next year. I think that's a distinct possibility. Also, I think everyone is reading WAY too much into the whole Conan thing. She looked a little tired but other than that fine. She was kinda laughing at something during the final credit thing and then she got up and Conan pointed to the back of the CD case and asked her a question and she seemed to answer it.. but none of it looked particularly angry to me - maybe just a little tired... we all know she hates this promotional stuff. And she might be stressed out about album sales and the single and everything. I have no idea what Atlantic Records expectations for the record sales last week were... but she could be under pressure if they came in below expectations (which I doubt they did).. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:47:29 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's current state <> I think we should calm down...lol. While she may be in a bad mood at one show during the length of a whole five minutes (which I don't even think was a bad mood...she just seemed tired and a little out of it), we don't need to overanalyze the situation and create a whole backstory of Jewel being annoyed with and hating her band.. On the other appearances, she seemed fine to me.. Let's let time run its course.. If she doesn't like the band, she'll get rid of them.. But actually, if she wasn't feeling the band after spending so much rehearsal time with them recently, she could've always moved on.. Let her have her bad day without examining every possible situation that could've caused it.. Chill out, we'll see.. PS -- If I could pick who to kick off though, it would be Steve (I don't like all the organ effects he injects), then the bass player (I don't know, I just don't like his presence and I loved Tony).. I like all the other guys.. The acoustic guitarist is unassuming and seems to know what he's doing, the electric guitarist is cool and made the most out of his parts in SS (which I still think sucks live...total studio song), and the drummer guy annoyed me at first with his stupid faces, but now I think he's funny...keep him. hehe scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevans56 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:50:15 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] further speculation on Conan Ok, I just watched both the Garth show, and the Conan show over again. I think much of her energy on the Garth show is from Garth himself. That gave Jewel that extra determination to do well I think. Plus I'm sure she knew TONS of people would be seeing that. Many more I'm sure than who tuned into Conan. However, upon watching the Conan show again, I did notice a couple more things. Mostly observing body language, mannerisms, etc. I think Sheila may have been onto something as well. While I don't know that she was upset with Conan in particular about something, it does appear that she was upset with "something" related to the show itself, and not just the band. While I do think she isn't overly thrilled with the band, I also think last night there was something more behind her appearing frustrated and tired. After she finished, Conan shook her hand then she turned away as he was approaching her again, so he just backed off and went to the bass player instead. Then we she sat down, she seldom looked at him, and once the show was over she stood up and appeared as if she was exchanging some "interesting" words with him...along with seeing his hand and arm gestures, I tend to think something had gone wrong, or wasn't right from the beginning. Maybe something technically related. I also noticed right when Conan approached her after saying it sounded great like he does with all the artists, he said "thanks for doing it". Does that make sense to anyone? Not to me. Thanks for doing what? Playing the show? Maybe so, but that's an odd way of saying it. Usually they'll say things like "thanks for coming on", or "we're glad to have you", etc. I mean, she got paid to come on the show...so I didn't really get why he said that. Almost as if something occured after the show already began that could have yielded her not doing her performance...possibly? So once she decided to go through with it, all Conan could say was "thanks for doing it". That would make sense then, in that context. Maybe something went wrong with the sound and she wasn't happy about it but he talked her into still going on, and so he was thanking her basically for playing anyway even though the sound maybe wasn't the way she preferred it to be...who knows. Lots of possible ideas. Maybe she wasn't feeling good? As someone else already mentioned that could have been. Also, remember it was cold Wednesday night on the air craft carrier...and I'm sure rather windy as well. It's very possible Jewel could have caught a cold just after that. So maybe she wasn't feeling up to playing, but went through with it anyway, so that's why Conan then said "thanks for doing it". As if maybe she wasn't going to at first? Could be. I think the only reason she stood up so fast after the show was over was due to the skirt...I believe that made her *very* uncomfortable sitting there. It appeared as if she was watching herself on the monitor the whole time...barely even glancing at Conan until she stood up, then she started talking to him immediately before he even had a chance to come around his desk like usual. Something was up for sure...I'm just not sure what it was. Maybe we should all check the current issues of things like the Enquirer and Star...haha. Any other ideas of what may have happened? Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:52:57 EST From: RunTontoRun@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's current state >>If I could pick who to kick off though, it would be Steve Steve??? is that Poltz?? - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:57:55 EST From: JeWeLzKeWL@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] further speculation on Conan Hey..I think Jewel seemed uncomfortable cause of her skirt (cause she was like covering herself uncomfortably) and maybe she just felt fat..that's all..no need to over analyze lol - -Jade *Tiny Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:07:11 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] RE: jewel's band >I think we have to take into account the fact that she had been playing >with the Spirit Tour guys for over 6 months when the Life Uncommon DVD >footage was shot. She's only been playing with these guys for a few >weeks now. - ---------------- How do you figure it had been 6 months? Spirit came out in Nov. 1998...yes, that's 6 months before the following April when the DVD footage was shot...but, in your own words below... "Also, don't forget during the promotional appearances for Spirit (the hands appearances) she had totally different musicians playing than during the Spirit Tour." Well I remember the Spirit tour guys even being more "together" during all the early TV spots. Comparing apples to apples here. They were a tighter group from the beginning. I still have all those shows on tape too. :-) >but I also think Jewel will have NO problem firing these guys if they are >continually messing up and don't get things together for the tour in >December. - ---------- I second that. :-) At least some of them. >Obviously she wants to have the best group possible, and if it doesn't >work out I'm sure she'll can them (or at least some of them) and replace >them before she starts touring for real next year. - ---------- Copycat...haha. ;-) >Also, don't forget during the promotional appearances for Spirit (the >hands appearances) she had totally different musicians playing than >during the Spirit Tour. There is a chance that she has hired these guys >for the promotional tour (and the christmas concerts) and she'll be >bringing the old band back for the tour next year. I think that's a >distinct possibility. - ----------------- While this would be great, I just don't see it happening. I mean, guys like Steve P. I doubt could devote that much time again to tour with Jewel. Plus I remember reading on the list that this was THE new band. Starting with the Humphrey's show. Granted "new" could mean a variety of things...maybe new for the TV shows, the X-MAS shows, etc. Or new meaning her first band since the last one. But I tend to think it meant new meaning "the new tour band". Of course everything is always subject to change. Just cause that was put in writing doesn't mean there aren't clauses to get around it somehow. >Also, I think everyone is reading WAY too much into the whole Conan >thing. She looked a little tired but other than that fine. She was >kinda laughing at something during the final credit thing and then she >got up and Conan pointed to the back of the CD case and asked her a >question and she seemed to answer it.. - -------------------------- It looked more like a nervous "get me outta here" laugh to me. And I didn't see him pointing to the CD. They were looking eye to eye, exchanging "words" I guess you could say. Then she just walked away. Gone. Didn't look like much fun was occuring. Something happened for sure...we just won't know what exactly it was unless ET, Access Hollywood or Inside Edition does a story on it...hehe. Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:12:28 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: RE: [EDA] Jewel's current state But the keyboard parts are crucial to many of the songs (1998-present)...as they were with the Spririt tour, and Steve knows the older songs very well I'm sure. He'd be the last one I'd get rid of! I think he's trying the most to keep everyone else together...seeing him knodding his head at the drummer and guitar player, things like that...the guy is trying to do what he can. I keep thinking those other guys are just a bunch of goofballs. That word's been running through my head for awhile now, so I finally said it. That's what they remind me of. Like some college cheese-whiz band kids...getting their big break to play with "the" Jewel. :-) Derrick - -----Original Message----- From: Scott To: JFreaks Sent: 11/24/01 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's current state <> I think we should calm down...lol. While she may be in a bad mood at one show during the length of a whole five minutes (which I don't even think was a bad mood...she just seemed tired and a little out of it), we don't need to overanalyze the situation and create a whole backstory of Jewel being annoyed with and hating her band.. On the other appearances, she seemed fine to me.. Let's let time run its course.. If she doesn't like the band, she'll get rid of them.. But actually, if she wasn't feeling the band after spending so much rehearsal time with them recently, she could've always moved on.. Let her have her bad day without examining every possible situation that could've caused it.. Chill out, we'll see.. PS -- If I could pick who to kick off though, it would be Steve (I don't like all the organ effects he injects), then the bass player (I don't know, I just don't like his presence and I loved Tony).. I like all the other guys.. The acoustic guitarist is unassuming and seems to know what he's doing, the electric guitarist is cool and made the most out of his parts in SS (which I still think sucks live...total studio song), and the drummer guy annoyed me at first with his stupid faces, but now I think he's funny...keep him. hehe scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevans56 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:21:11 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] further speculation on Conan > While I don't know that she was upset with Conan in particular about > something, it does appear that she was upset with "something" related to the > show itself, and not just the band. Who knows...the thing you said about "thanks for doing it" does seem a little strange, but it's also possible he just worded it funny... we'll never really know, maybe she got in a fight with Ty before the show and wasn't in the mood to entertain people, maybe she had a family emergency, and same thing...maybe she is just tired of playing standing still, or maybe she isn't impressed with her band, but at this point hasn't had time to hire new guys... maybe there was a problem earlier during sound check, or she's sick, or she got stuck somewhere before the show and it pissed her off.... maybe it was the sound. At the beginning of the song they had way too much treble through her mic and not enough low end, maybe that pissed her off.... I do feel a little bit of over analyzing is happening, but I think it's because people are getting antsy since she hasn't even started touring yet, and they're afraid she's already wearing thin on the business again.... we all want to be able to see her tour, and hopefully, have her *happy* to be doing it. It's not just one show that she happened to be on also where she didn't seem entirely happy... so it very well could be that she's just not happy with the band. Since everyone indicated she seemed so happy on the Garth thing, and I haven't seen it yet since I taped it while I was out, but was she playing with *her* band, or Garth's band for the performance? Maybe that's a bit of an indication. Also, I know if I practiced and played the same song over and over and over again, it would wear on me. The reason she probably starting playing around with WWSYS was because she was so tired of singing it normally and needed some variation. Anyways, just my thoughts... ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:28:49 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] imagine this :-) (fiction) Steve George picks up the phone: "Hey Tony....do you have the bass part down for Standing Still yet?" Tony Hall: "Yep...I got it covered, no problem." Tony then hangs up and calls someone else: "Brady, how are those drums coming along? Brady: "I'm ready to rock Tony...when are we doing it?" Tony: "Let me make one more call." Tony hangs up, then picks up the phone again...: "Doug, you ready?" Doug: "Yeah let's go! That new band sucks!" Doug and Tony hang up...then Doug's phone rings: "Doug, hey bud it's Poltz here...is it happening? Doug: "Yeah Steve we're all ready...meet us at the CBS studio in 2 weeks." Steve P: "Alright I'm there." Fast forward 2 weeks.... Jewel's getting ready to play SS on the Craig Kilborn show, and lo and behold, she is pleasantly surprised to see her old band with her again. That night, Standing Still sounds better live than it ever has. :-) Ok, so it's just a dream. Derrick ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #605 ***************************