From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #559 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, November 11 2001 Volume 06 : Number 559 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Re: janis movie [Fredsteve@aol.com] [EDA] Irony in Jewel's music [JeWeLzKeWL@aol.com] [EDA] Jewel's film career... time shall tell... ["Pablo" ] [EDA] kick ass ["cymbaline" ] Fwd: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie ["Stacey Hamilton" ] Re: [EDA] Re: janis movie [shawn e williams ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:35:52 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: janis movie In a message dated 11/10/01 5:31:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: > i think Jewel should be in a movie about Janis Joplin's life, and be > Janis in the movie! i know it would be hard to be her in the movie, but > Jewel could definately pull it off! Jewel for sure has the voice! what > does everyone think? > Bette Midler already made a movie called The Rose that isn't about Janis Joplin's life.. but is always compared to Janis.. plus I don't think Jewel wants to do a musical. steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:43:08 EST From: JeWeLzKeWL@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Irony in Jewel's music Hey..I noticed that too..also, the newer version of Down So Long that's on Spirit has a fast beat but sad lyrics..Pretty interesting..Either Jewel doesn't know how to make lyrics and music match, or, she's using irony ..hmm.. - -Jade *Tiny Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 07:00:28 -0500 From: "Pablo" Subject: [EDA] Jewel's film career... time shall tell... I think she should get on some complex characters... a plot that doesn't even relate her life and a character totally diferent to her own behavior or personality... something chalenging... some character made up from the mind of a literary genius, a long time writer, a great storyteller... a new character... someone fictional... not someone who belong to real life or live in our history books and memories... any performance that would bring out her deepest feelings.. hidden pain... dissapointments... about her life, her parents divorce, her painful disseases... Her on-screen part could go from her highest happiness 'til her lowest sadness... all of this hidden deep inside in a inner box only opened to enrich her impersonation with several textures and colors... surprising us all with a eccentric portrayal... her histrionic skills would be tested... it needs a lot of trainning and tears... we all know Jewel could make it... she is a fighter... It could draw her strengh to its limits... She could get tired and burnt out again with a strong and difficult role. A good example of what I mean is performances of Elisabeth Shue on Leaving Las Vegas... or Angelina Jolie on Girl, Interrupted.... If Jewel gets the best script she can find... with a leading and dramatic complex role... choose a good director... I and all of you would as well picture her taking an Oscar for her acting skills... even a Globe... it would be her ultimate success... perhaps I'm going too far... you never know... it's great to see how she can accomplish so many artistic fields... It's time for her acting success???.... Time shall tell... I personally don't want her to quit her actual musical career for a Hollywood commercial success... it's her commitment to do a great job everytime she can... that would eventually lead to a happy ending... and be proud to be an EDA... Have a nice read write ya soon... Pablo Latin (not so) Angel __________________________________________________________________________ >>>Does anyone else think that a movie (not a documentary) of Jewels own life story(s) could make a good family type movie? A movie with some filming in Alaska beginning with her early years...it just seems to me that there really could be a great movie of her life growing up, all the things that she has been through, getting to school via horse and buggy, living with eskimoes, singing in the bars with her mom and dad, living on a farm, the divorce, bed in a closet, money being raised by people in her hometown to help her attend performing arts school, moving to California, moving into her van, the cafe where she started and also when the limo came to take her away. Lastly, something about how she affects so many people through her music, her message and what she believes in. Couldn't a really good movie director see that this could be a classic...in my opinion anyway. Please post if you think this could be a great movie with Jewel having the starring role of playing herself?!! Thank you, Sheila.<<< >>>i think Jewel should be in a movie about Janis Joplin's life, and be Janis in the movie! i know it would be hard to be her in the movie, but Jewel could definately pull it off! Jewel for sure has the voice! what does everyone think? love ya, shawney the hippie angel<<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:08:14 +1100 From: "Steven J Neville" Subject: RE: [EDA] NJC: The kick ass thread I think it also needs to be mentioned that Coilback kick ass. Lew, I love the songs that you have on the website. For What It's Worth spends a lot of time on repeat, love this version. I recommend that everyone on this list should check out Coilback. Do you guy's have a CD out? Steve The Aussie Angel called Taz Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:01:40 -0600 From: "New World Warehouse" Subject: [EDA] NJC: The kick ass thread Since we are finally in a positive sorta feel to this list, just wanted to send some props out: Now and Zen Girl - you kick ass Pablo - just really started noticing your posts - you kick ass Kristie - you of course kick ass and you can kick mine all you want >wink< Dennis - you kick ass (thanks again for the tape) and above all - Mike and MrBB kick major ass and of course Jewel kicks everybodys ass. so there you go, Lew The pumped up after a great gig tonite and glad to see some positive posts Angel.... www.coilback.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:58:07 -0000 From: "Rowley" Subject: [EDA] Re: voicing opinions on jewel Ok, can we put a stop to the pettiness (no, not Tom Petty) please? Sean had some good points that i felt were important and needed to be said. I was considering posting some of them myself but was halfway through the 'Harris thinking period' (God damn ye, nevermind!) OK i am an adult and not a child. But that doesn't mean i want to listen to some of the crass vocabulary certain people are using. It isn't big and it isn't clever. Never has been, never will be. Hooksy said: Being critical of the mediocre, commercial, superficial and subpar is a good thing, a sign of being a thinker, not just a passive person who goes with the current. Steve said: However, just because something is CRITICAL of Jewel doesn't automatically make it "intelligent". Becuase you feel like saying "Jewel don't sing so good no more" doesn't automatically make you "a thinker". Ok can people look at these 2 statements? Sean is not condoning we all criticise Jewel, he doesn't actually mention Jewel in that sentence. He is talking GENERALLY. Being a critic means raising a point, backing it up, then defending it. Being critical isn't the same. Sean is NOT saying that if we crticize something it makes us intelligent. I mean, please, to think such a thing is ridiculous. So to reiterate: Critic says: "Spirit lacked the passion felt when listening to pieces of you mainly because it was studio recorded in it's entirety, whereas Jewel thrives on a live audience. (not my opinion, just an example)" A criticism is: Jewel has gone a bit crap cos she can't sing a national anthem live. Steve it doesn't take a Brain Surgeon to pick out the intelligent comment, even a boy band could sus that one out! So can we stop this list from going to extremes! Why can't people take time to think through references and relative information to their topic? It would make the posts much more interesting reading and any arguments more civil, intelligent, and even (if we are lucky) diplomatic. Just have a think about it. This is our list let's take control and improve it so it is a tool for discussion and debate, and not a weopon of anger and anomosity. The other thing, i disagree with the suggestion that any opinon should be prefixed with; 'In my opinion...' If everyone did this the list would double in length because we would write those 3 words every sentence! it's a discussion board, most things are you're opinion and chances are if you were to post someone elses opinion that you disagreed with you would tell everyone anyway! And lastly regarding Jewel link. Jewel Link is great, and very useful for TV dates etc. But i did find it intrusive when one issue was sent solely regarding Jewel's mum's book. I felt that it was bordering onto the aggressive selling method. Maybe a link on the site would have been great, but it shouldn't have been in a Jewel Newsletter. Take care to all, Nick PS before i am crucified can i refer you to the aforementioned 'Wait 24 hours voluntary code of conduct' That gives me till tomorrow night to prepare my defence. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:02:57 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] kick ass you know who kicks major ass??? ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahaha (how's that for a big ego?) cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:15:47 -0700 From: "Stacey Hamilton" Subject: Fwd: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie Jewel doesn't sound anything like Janis. I can think of lots of other artists who would better fit that part...both in looks, and sound. I think Melissa would be closer than Jewel. >From: shawn e williams >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie >Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:25:31 -0500 > >i think Jewel should be in a movie about Janis Joplin's life, and be >Janis in the movie! i know it would be hard to be her in the movie, but >Jewel could definately pull it off! Jewel for sure has the voice! what >does everyone think? > >love ya, >shawney >the hippie angel > > >NOVEMER 13TH NEW JEWEL CD CALLED "THIS WAY" COMES OUT! >LISTEN TO "STANDING STILL" AT: >http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp >VOTE FOR JEWEL'S NEW SONG "STANDING STILL" ON TRL! >http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/votevideo.jhtml > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:48:30 -0700 From: "Stacey Hamilton" Subject: [EDA] my observation Does this list only have like 20 or 30 people on it? I always see the same people posting and stuff. And with the exception of people like Sean, Cymbaline, and Rowley (maybe one or two others), everyone seems to have some kind of sheild up like not realizing Jewel is human. I like Jewel alot, and have for awhile now, but I don't think she's anywhere close to perfect. I know no one has said she is, but I kind of sense that vibe from people here. It's nice to be positive about things too. I'm that way also, but I think everything has it's boundaries and can be taken to an extreme. I enjoy reading all varieties of posts on here, but when all I'm mostly seeing are overly postive things about Jewel, well, it just doesn't seem very "real" to me I guess. On some other lists I'm on, people are given the opportunity to share their opinions (good and bad) and while some people may get slightly offended, they don't really get mad ya know. And it really makes people think alot and sparks creativity in my opinion. I haven't really found that with this list though. I think for someone as creative as Jewel can be, this list just doesn't represent "her" very accurately. Not that it should, but I remember hearing so much about the EDA list way before I joined, and I always thought how cool it would be to be part of. But all I can see are alot of seemingly narrow-minded people who don't really see Jewel as a real person, but more as some super-being, in a way. If others don't share in my opinion, then that's ok. It just seems like theres only like 20-30 people posting when I thought there would be many more and I would be seeing lots of things and topics to talk about. Not just calling stations to promote Jewel, or people saying to buy her CD, or people talking about how she should make a movie (more promotion), or people saying they want her to sell alot of CD's and all that....it's all marketing stuff. ugh! It's all so superficial. Is that all this list is about? People have feelings. Their life isn't just about making money and selling things. It's about love, caring, devotion to others, and things we love to share. It's not about plugging your latest book or CD or movie. There are plenty of websites where that information can be obtained. jewekjk is great for that. But it's like all I see here is more of that. Just people saying more about it. Anyway, no one has to reply to this if they don't want but if they do then I would prefer to do it off the list so others don't have to waste their time reading it. Just to remind everyone, I do like Jewel and alot of things about her, but there's so much more to discuss. I just felt a list about someone so creative and intelligent would share similar attributes. And some of you do. I really enjoy your posts. But even when those people (who do seem really smart) write something, it's as if they get attacked by those other 20-30 I was talking about before. That's not right. Represent Jewel. To do that, isn't about calling a station 100 times a day or buying 500 copies of her CD. It's about helping others, donating to charities, and basically just lending a helping hand when someone is in need. I read where somewone said Jewel herself already said she has made enough money to last the rest of her life (which I didn't know before). Since we all know this now, then why do we need to keep plugging all her new items? We know we're all going to get her new CD of course. So can't we talk about other things? She doesn't need the money and promotion anymore. It just gets tiring to read about the same things post after post. Maybe my expectations are too much though. ~Stacey~ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:13:58 -0500 From: shawn e williams Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: janis movie yeah, i saw The Rose, it was a great movie! i never really thought about melissa ethridge doing a movie based on her life, b/c she sounds a lot like her too! maybe Jewel could be on the soundtrack and do a cover of one of her songs. On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:35:52 EST Fredsteve@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 11/10/01 5:31:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: > > > > i think Jewel should be in a movie about Janis Joplin's life, and > be > > Janis in the movie! i know it would be hard to be her in the > movie, but > > Jewel could definately pull it off! Jewel for sure has the voice! > what > > does everyone think? > > > > Bette Midler already made a movie called The Rose that isn't about > Janis > Joplin's life.. but is always compared to Janis.. plus I don't > think Jewel > wants to do a musical. > > steve ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #559 ***************************