From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #558 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, November 10 2001 Volume 06 : Number 558 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] Jewel's own movie ["jake skyles" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel's own movie [shawn e williams ] [EDA] Janis Joplin movie [shawn e williams ] Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie ["cymbaline" ] Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie ["Scott" ] [EDA] Jewel the Movie and Cd's ["Amanda" ] Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] Re: Jewel's Own Movie [Mirko Serkovic ] Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie ["Art" ] [EDA] Re: I Won't Walk Away [Mirko Serkovic ] [EDA] Jewel movie ["Sheila56" ] RE: [EDA] SCATHING this way review ["Pablo" ] [EDA] Re: voicing opinions on jewel [Fredsteve@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:18:31 -0500 From: "jake skyles" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's own movie NO WAY! Mariah already made that mistake. >From: "Sheila56" >To: >Subject: [EDA] Jewel's own movie >Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:08:44 -0500 > >Does anyone else think that a movie (not a documentary) of Jewels own life >story(s) could make a good family type movie? A movie with some filming in >Alaska beginning with her early years...it just seems to me that there >really could be a great movie of her life growing up, all the things that >she has been through, getting to school via horse and buggy, living with >eskimoes, singing in the bars with her mom and dad, living on a farm, the >divorce, bed in a closet, money being raised by people in her hometown to >help her attend performing arts school, moving to California, moving into >her van, the cafe where she started and also when the limo came to take her >away. Lastly, something about how she affects so many people through her >music, her message and what she believes in. Couldn't a really good movie >director see that this could be a classic...in my opinion anyway. Please >post if you think this could be a great movie with Jewel having the >starring >role of playing herself?!! Thank you, Sheila. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:22:15 -0500 From: shawn e williams Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel's own movie definately!!!!! i would see it a trillion times!! love ya, shawney the hippie angel NOVEMER 13TH NEW JEWEL CD CALLED "THIS WAY" COMES OUT! LISTEN TO "STANDING STILL" AT: http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp VOTE FOR JEWEL'S NEW SONG "STANDING STILL" ON TRL! http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/votevideo.jhtml ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:25:31 -0500 From: shawn e williams Subject: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie i think Jewel should be in a movie about Janis Joplin's life, and be Janis in the movie! i know it would be hard to be her in the movie, but Jewel could definately pull it off! Jewel for sure has the voice! what does everyone think? love ya, shawney the hippie angel NOVEMER 13TH NEW JEWEL CD CALLED "THIS WAY" COMES OUT! LISTEN TO "STANDING STILL" AT: http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp VOTE FOR JEWEL'S NEW SONG "STANDING STILL" ON TRL! http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/votevideo.jhtml ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:26:13 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie she doesn't look enough like janis to pull it off. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:34:07 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie Actually, two Janis movies were in the works.. One starring Lili Taylor and another starring Melissa Etheridge (who I think would've been GREAT).. They are both stalled though, so it's doubtful that either will see the light of day any time soon.. As for Jewel being Janis, I'm just not seeing it.. Maybe in ten years.. But Jewel's too young and her look is wrong.. And no one's voice is like Janis', so I'd rather see it with Janis' voice dubbed in (like they did with the Judy Garland TV miniseries).. And I don't think Jewel could muster any natural-sounding speaking voice that would fit the dubbing.. BTW - The Jewel life story movie.....nah. Jewel hasn't had anything in her life to warrant a movie being made about her.. She's still in her 20s.. Maybe 50 years from now something will have happened to make a fulfilling movie.. Otherwise, like someone else said, it would be like Mariah's Glitter.. It would bomb and just make her a laughing-stock.. scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevans56 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:37:47 -0500 From: "Amanda" Subject: [EDA] Jewel the Movie and Cd's I agree with those who say this isnt a good idea. Although I am sure EDA's would enjoy this, there is a MUCH bigger audience out there. With that mariah thing... Yeah she says it was not based on her life, at all. But, come on, it all made a little to much sense. I was wondering about imported Cd's For both single standing still and the full this way album... What are the tracks/bonus tracks? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:05:21 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie I agree with Scott... and I think that for there to be an effective movie on Jewel, a tragic thing needs to happen. I'm not saying I wish that to happen, but for example, Judy had that massive drug problem and that was the movie. How the drugs affected everything: her life, marriage, and career. There has to be something that will keep the audeince drawn to it. Cause we all know the story... grew up in alaska, lived in a van, got famous... so what? happy ending? I don't think it would sell. Now.... lets say Jewel were to go insane, get very paranoid and just go crazy.... and have that affect her career.... then yeah I'd say you got a movie. Its not what everyone already knows that makes a movie on someone's life like that, but all the tragic drama that goes on behind the scenes that does. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:29:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mirko Serkovic Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel's Own Movie EXACTLY! I've always thought of that, especially when I saw a film about LeeAnn Rimes. I said to myself "Jewel's story is a much better one, I wonder why they don't do a film about her...". I must confess that I wouldn't like seeing Jewel playin Jewel... it would be like a Spice Girl dejavu... Maybe Renee Zellwegger could play the part of Jewel, it would be awesome... and Renee could pretend she is singing, but it is actually Jewel's voice playing... kind of what they did with the movie Selena. If a good director see this, I also agree it would be a classic. But I think the director should be as aware as we (her closest fans) are of all her life, in order for the movie to really come good. Well, take care everyone, Mirko *angel from Peru* Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:33:24 -0800 From: "Art" Subject: Re: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie Sorry I'd have to disagree, Jewel's too much of a country girl to play Janis. The perfect artist to do Joplin is Beth Hart. She is an amazing singer and she just finished a series of plays called "Janis" back in Jewels back yard of San Diego. A friend of mine (who is my age and remembers the real Janis) went to the show and was (let me see if I remember the term) blown away. Bob - ----- Original Message ----- From: "shawn e williams" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: [EDA] Janis Joplin movie > i think Jewel should be in a movie about Janis Joplin's life, and be > Janis in the movie! i know it would be hard to be her in the movie, but > Jewel could definately pull it off! Jewel for sure has the voice! what > does everyone think? > > love ya, > shawney > the hippie angel > > > NOVEMER 13TH NEW JEWEL CD CALLED "THIS WAY" COMES OUT! > LISTEN TO "STANDING STILL" AT: > http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp > VOTE FOR JEWEL'S NEW SONG "STANDING STILL" ON TRL! > http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/votevideo.jhtml > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mirko Serkovic Subject: [EDA] Re: I Won't Walk Away I have to agree with you cymbie.. I Won't Walk Away is a depressing song although the lyrics are supposed to be uplifting... I it is funny how Jewel plays around with that. Have you noticed that the melody of Standing Still is really uplifting but the lyrics are melancholic??? Do you think she could be playing with that in purpose??? Mirko *angel from Peru* Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:48:09 -0500 From: "Sheila56" Subject: [EDA] Jewel movie okay, thanks for your opinions. Have to admit i have not seen the Mariah movie. I either read somewhere or heard somewhere that there will be a need soon for more "family" type movies. In regards to a Jewel movie, i'm saying "not" a movie that focuses on a little girl who goes from rags to riches and "not" a movie that's mostly about music. I think i mean something like a movie that focuses more on living a hard life or growing up and being so poor with no running water and all that, a sort of sad type movie of life struggles with a very happy ending. "Some" music scenes of her making it to the top but a movie that focuses more on what it was like growing up the way jewel did. Something at the end that gives a message that "its good to give back to people when you are in a position that you can make a difference." Like what she is doing for the 3rd world country and the water. Something "only alittle simular" to maybe "little house on the prairie" but make it a movie. The movie could even begin with her grandparents who imigrated here. Perhaps a movie that would interest mostly a younger audience like the Shirley Temple movies. (although, i still like watching her movies at my age). It just seems that a really good movie could be made with Jewels real life story including her family, if there was a very "good director" working with it. What do ya's think?? Maybe a movie about the patriotism or something. Definately not a movie that is just about Jewel and her music. Thanks, Sheila. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:12:54 -0500 From: "Pablo" Subject: RE: [EDA] SCATHING this way review c'mon!!! it's the Los Angeles Times... why you all are even bothered by this review... it's not worth reading what that guy wrote... Just wait for The review... tell me if this is not true... reply if you all think I'm wrong... when I read it was from the Los Angeles Times.. I thought "bullshit is comming!!!"... sorry if someone gets offended... ;) write ya later!! Pablo ":?) Latin (not so) Angel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:13 AM > Subject: [EDA] SCATHING this way review > > > > Hey Guys > > > > The first absolute PAN of This Way comes from the Los Angeles Times. > > Obviously this guy HATES Jewel (he hates both Pieces of You and Spirit)... > > and frankly, I'll usually read and respect any review (good or bad), but > > anybody who criticizes Jewel's voice is fucking insane. > > > > Here's the review: > > > > This Way > > 1.5 stars (out of four) > > > > On her third album, Jewel rummages through vocal affectations the way one > of > > her young fans might tear through a rack of outfits in a boutique. > > Crystalline, high and pure one moment, slurry and earthy the next. Now > > little-girl breathy, then raspy and semi-spoken. Abrupt falsettos and > > syllable-splitting, Springsteen clenches and Shania twangs strafe the > album. > > Rather than versatility and range, this motley wardrobe represents > the > > artistic cluelessness that has drawn critical barbs ever since the > singer's > > debut album, "Pieces of You," made her the pin-up poet of the high school > > set. "This Way" marks small advances over that and 1998's "Vision," but > > mainly it's like being stuck at an endless coffeehouse open-mike night. > > Given her limitations, which also prominently include the thinness of > > her timbre and the wanness of her warble, Jewel is best off when she's > over > > the top, as on the rock-riffing, finger-cymbal-ringing exotica hodgepodge > > "Serve the Ego," or the Janis Joplin-channeling "Love Me, Just Leave Me > > Alone." > > A little-engine-that-could spunk keeps the surface in motion, things > > moving, but it's inert underneath. > > bRICHARD CROMELIN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:29:37 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: voicing opinions on jewel Just wanted to comment on Sean's email a bit.. and some other things: I think he's right that people on this list should be allowed to voice their opinions, whether they're for or against something Jewel does. However, just because something is CRITICAL of Jewel doesn't automatically make it "intelligent". Becuase you feel like saying "Jewel don't sing so good no more" doesn't automatically make you "a thinker". And I don't think that if you praise something Jewel does, that automatically makes you some kind of a mindless follower who has had the "wool pulled over their eyes", so to speak. Anyway, having said that I will launch into my defense of Jewel... First off - all those who want her to be exactly like she was when Pieces of You came out (ie - only acoustic).. forget about it. Jewel will always play acoustically live, but chances are she's gonna be exploring various different ways of recording music for the next few albums... and why would you blame her? Frankly.. I know she's very good acoustically - but if that's all she chose to do with her music I'd be bored as sin. Why not let her try and develop herself musically in other directions? Secondly - the J-Team. If you object to the Street Team - DON'T FUCKING JOIN IT. Frankly, I think the J-Team has done enough for the people on this list in terms of Jewel to earn the right to promote her a little bit (which is what they're paid to do for christ's sake). Most artists don't offer their online fanclubs exclusive opportunities like the Nashville event, Storytellers, Austin City Limits, that other PBS show etc etc.. And aside from that, the J-Team don't rub any of it in our face. JeweLink is a promotional tool, sure, but it's more of a service for Jewel fans who want to know what Jewel's going to be doing in terms of promotion... it's not like they email us weekly with reasons why we should buy Spirit for the 10th time. It's fairly un-obtrusive and actually pretty useful for those who want to see Jewel on the talk shows or whatever. I know I'm gonna find it very useful when Jewel comes to Toronto in December :) anyway.. that's it from me Steve > > Secondly, the people who say stop criticizing Jewel. As someone already > > responded, there are far too many people on this list who kiss her ass over > > every little thing she does. We need a few logical, thoughtful, rational > people to put that all in perspective, people who are a little more world > knowledgeable and cynical and see through a lot of the promotional wool > that > the so-called J-team pulls over our collective eyes. Does being critical of > > Jewel make one any less of a fan - No! If anything it makes you more of a > fan > because you know she has the potential to be superb and, as a fan, you are > disappointed when she settles for mediocrity. No fan of ANYTHING should > tolerate mediocrity. Be it a musician, a sports team, an author, a > filmmaker, > an actor, a co-worker, whatever. Being critical of the mediocre, > commercial, > superficial and subpar is a good thing, a sign of being a thinker, not just > a > passive person who goes with the current. > > Later, > Sean Hooks ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #558 ***************************