From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #518 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, October 31 2001 Volume 06 : Number 518 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: look into it some more ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] whoaaaa horsey! Hold up everyone! [JewelWN2BE@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NJC: look into it some more [Mike Connell ] Re: [EDA] NJC: So immature [CleaningDuster@aol.com] [EDA] FW: whoaaaa horsey! Hold up everyone! ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:25:13 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] NJC: look into it some more You're missing the point. It's not just the age thing. You can't reproduce her pic either...how mysteriously humorous. Maybe you're her? And if there are pervs out there, then why send someone a picture of their daughter just for sending them angelfood? Seems a bit like overkill to me. Has anyone else on this list sent a pic of themselves along with angelfood? Forget about sending one of your son or daughter like Sheila supposedly did. Anyone? Just a pic of yourself...has this been done before? And, Devin, answer this for me please...if she's real, and her daughter and all that is real, then how have I and many others found so many inconsistencies in her e-mails? Can you explain this? Forget the age thing. The ball's in your court now. > ---------- > From: Devin Starr[SMTP:devin_starr@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:13 PM > To: jewel@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: It's time. :-) > > Hey everyone.. > i was just reading what i hoped to be the "happy posts" of hte day and i > came accross this crap. > > Ok. Since Derrick put this to the whole list, and obviously he isnt going > > to be believing her.. a bit more than a year ago, some of you might > remember i offered free angel food to people... Well one of those who > recieved it was Ciara. I got a great letter from Sheila and Ciara and im > sorry that we didnt keep in better touch. I do have a pic of Ciara when > she > was 6, i was sent a card of thank you from both of them and a pic of > Ciara. > No i will not be sharing it.. and i understand why she wouldnt produce a > pic > of Ciara on line.. how many pervs do you hear about on the news these > days. > (i woudnt put pics of my nephew on line for all to see either.) > Sheila is a great person who is v. friendly and all i have seen from > derrick > lately is shit and crap. i may not be one of hte older members on here.. > i > have only been on for about 2 years but i think that people deserve > respect. > what on earth could she gain out of lying? It would be redundant and > stupid. BTW. lots of people dont have pics of self on line and lots of > people dislike saying their age.. Im 19. im proud of that. but not > everyone > is so open on line. and i didnt get a pic of me on line til about a week > ago. > And Derrick sometimes even if Sheila were 45+ or anyone was 45+ that is no > > reason to not have a kid. lots of people have adopted kids. my neighbours > > are 55 and they have 2 adopted children who are under the age of 10... > geez. > get a life. if you have nothing better to do than attack people who > > Besides who stamped God on your ass, derrick? Just because you want to > know > someones age and they refuse to disclose is no reason to get on their ass. > > geez. get a life. if you have nothing better to do than attack people who > are proud of their kids and want opinions on the validity of a guy who > could > help.. Lots of people are interested in Ciaras story becuase its one of > those happy ones that people need to read. > > ok. im done. rant button off. > Jess > angel with broken wings and a big mouth, and a need to defend friends. > > ~*~in this world their should be people with bats to hit those who say > moronic things and i should be one of those people.. but i am from > Canada.. > so i will just carry a hockey stick instead.~*~ > > > then how do you have a daughter whose only 7? I know it's not totally > impossible for this to occur, but it's very>rare for women to give birth > past age 45. You say you discovered about>Jewel through a radio shack ad. > > Well that radio shack ad came out less than>2 years ago. And since you > were > already on the list then, you and Ciara > >would have been well aware of who Jewel was. Basically, you have a TON > of > >inconsistencies in your e-mails. I really don't know what more to say > but > >I>can tell you that I'm not even close to being the only one who thinks > >you>have some "issues" going on inside your head. I'd even venture to > >say>"Ciara" doesn't even exist. Your name may not even be Sheila. I > have > >some>other ideas about all this, but I'll keep that to myself for now. > >Let's just say that I'm not being fooled. This whole age thing that > >started>was basically to mock you! And you didn't even realize it...or > did > >you?>LOL Anyway, it's been fun, but I think it's time to give everyone a > > >break>now. I'm sure most of us don't really care about your daughter if > >she even>exists, or anything else you're talking about. Wake up from > your > >fairy tale>land. By the way, if she DOES exist, then why can't you > produce > >a photo>either of you or her? And I know I'm not the only one whose > asked > >you for>this (privately). > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:26:30 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: RE: NJC: Re: [EDA] NJC: Point proven...thanks! I never said that. Nice try though. I like how you conveniently leave out certain details to make yourself seem like you're right. :-) > ---------- > From: Joe Kunis[SMTP:vonjoustein00@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:06 PM > To: jewel@smoe.org > Subject: Re: NJC: Re: [EDA] NJC: Point proven...thanks! > > > I agree Mike. This is a guy who had the audacity to tell me the last "war" > the US was involved in was World War 2. My father was a fucking Korean War > veteran!!!!!! Did Dumbo Derrick think we were in Korea to sightsee and > learn > a foreign language? It's hard to address such ignorance... > > > Joe > > > > >From: Mike Connell > >To: "Karacostas, Derrick W." , jewel@smoe.org > >Subject: NJC: Re: [EDA] NJC: Point proven...thanks! > >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:36:28 -0500 > > > >To the list I say.... > > > >Go straight to hell Derrick! > > > >Why don't you also tell them about your fucking history of driving me > and > >someone who works for Jewel nuts with your inane and endless emails and > >rants about whatever bug happens to be up your ass at the time. (and > there > >has been a WHOLE hive of them over the years) > > > >I really do not care if what you posted about today is true or not, > could > >not care less at all. Yes, maybe you have gotten some positive replies > >about this one today, but do you have any iota of a clue as to how many > >emails I have gotten over the years about what an ass you are? and how I > >deal with it? > > > >I'm fed up with your "horsehit," (as you put it about what I call it) > and > >am hereby officially asking you to leave this list in front > >of everyone. I've already wasted too much of my time and life on you > and > >am not going to do it any more. Life is too short. > > > >There I called your bluff. > > > >I apologize to all EDAs old and new about this rant of mine, but trust > me, > >you have no clue at all as to what I and a few others behind the scenes > >have gone through with this guy over the years, especially recently, and > >other of course pests I've had to deal with and spend time and money on. > > > >I am fed up with it amd am not going to take it anymore, nor am going to > be > >Mister Niceguy about it any longer. > > > >As for the Harris' "Sit on it for a day" rule before sending a post one > >wrote in anger and might regret later, well....I will not ever regret > this. > > > >Again, go straight to hell Derrick. > > > >Mike > > > >At 12:10 PM 10/31/01, you wrote: > >>Since Mike thinks my little plan is "horseshit"...the thing regarding > >>Sheila and Ciara, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone whose replied > to > >>me (you know who you are), all postively I might add, with their > comments > >>regarding this matter. > >>I think the point has been proven, and whether Mike agrees or not is > his > >>choice. > >>He's entitled to his opinion of course. Any further matters regarding > >>this > >>will be dealt with between "Sheila" and myself privately. By the way, > the > >>only negative, and downright RUDE post I got as a result of this was > from > >>Mike. Seems as if the days of old are gone now...sorry Kevin, I tried. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:44:36 -0500 From: "Sheila56" Subject: [EDA] derrick Okay Derrick, you are just being plain rude now. If there are inconsistencies in my emails then tell what they are....there shouldn't be!!! I have not lied about anything to any of you. You are sending the emails so fast that i can''t keep up! I want to know exactly what it is that you think i said is not true. Sheila ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:37:30 EST From: JewelWN2BE@aol.com Subject: [EDA] whoaaaa horsey! Hold up everyone! Dear EDAs, Ok ok.. lets not get too crazy over this. It was a silly joke. A bit of a mockery.... perhaps out of line.... but *still* no one hates anyone. Derrick wasn't out to ruin Sheila's life or her rep. on the list. He just noted that a lot of things from her posts didn't fit, and seemed weird. He just happened to be the only one who had the balls to say something. Doesn't make what he did right or wrong, he just DID. His own opinion, freedom of speech, ya know? Of course it's going to get everyone up in arms about it. And a LOT of people agreed with Derrick privately which encouraged him to proceed with the post, but again, you won't see letters from those people because they don't speak their mind quite so public as he does. I feel somewhat responsible too because I was one who encouraged him to post the thread.... I thought it was funny and it'd be interesting to see the responses we'd get. I didn't think Mike would get so mad and want him off the list. And the name-calling/gibberish that's starting to take place isn't showing the mature side of the list. But then again, maybe WE weren't showing our mature side to post on such a silly topic as mocking Sheila's posts. I know this isn't going to stop the discussion... but maybe it'll make a few people think first before they post..... ??? I'm sorry guys. Love and whiskey, Michelle the angel who loves to jam** Geez..... but you gotta admit... derrick keeps the list on it's toes :-P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:39:19 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: look into it some more At 01:25 PM 10/31/01, you wrote: > Has anyone >else on this list sent a pic of themselves along with angelfood? Forget >about sending one of your son or daughter like Sheila supposedly did. >Anyone? Just a pic of yourself...has this been done before? Over the years I have literally sent out over 1,500 angelfood tapes to people, probably a lot more (I buy blank tapes by the gross....that's 144 tapes, and have done it many many times). Many angelfood tapes were sent free on my part, many were the regular ol' "send blanks, I'll dub and send them back to you". While it's a vast majhority of female EDAs, I've gotten at least 4 dozen pictures sent with blanks tape and/or thank-you cards/notes/letters after the tapes were sent back and received. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:47:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Garner Subject: [EDA] Derrick, everyone, just chill... Howdy ya'll, Derrick, are you into forensics? Why do you have to pick every little thing apart and analyze it? Anyways, this is getting outta hand and starting to confuse the hell outta me. As for the age posts, keep 'em going...it kinda helps the list keep in touch. I wish Derrick could show his opinion in a lighter way, instead of making it seem like an attack, and it does. And everyone who's dealt with Derrick knows how he is, so try not to let his different perspective on things get to you. I'm sure he isn't really trying to start something...what would that get him? Just trying to calm things down. Lee Garner Confederate EDA (Angel of Dixie) Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:49:47 EST From: CleaningDuster@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: So immature good bye dumb ass! I'll really miss your mean and useless comments. Mike is right I think we have all had to deal with some bullshit from Derrik. Who the hell cares about your inane babbling that has no point, except to piss people off! Go start a fight elsewhere. Chandini ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:47:24 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] FW: whoaaaa horsey! Hold up everyone! Actually I thought the whole "age range of the list" thread was pretty cool. It's not the first time that's been done. :-) I don't think *I've* called anyone names. Maybe immature, but not names. > ---------- > From: JewelWN2BE@aol.com[SMTP:JewelWN2BE@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:37 PM > To: Jewel@smoe.org; ducksoup@quackquack.net; dkaracos@UTMB.EDU > Subject: whoaaaa horsey! Hold up everyone! > > Dear EDAs, > > Ok ok.. lets not get too crazy over this. It was a silly joke. A bit of a > mockery.... perhaps out of line.... but *still* no one hates anyone. > > Derrick wasn't out to ruin Sheila's life or her rep. on the list. He just > > noted that a lot of things from her posts didn't fit, and seemed weird. > He > just happened to be the only one who had the balls to say something. > Doesn't > make what he did right or wrong, he just DID. His own opinion, freedom of > > speech, ya know? Of course it's going to get everyone up in arms about it. > > And a LOT of people agreed with Derrick privately which encouraged him to > proceed with the post, but again, you won't see letters from those people > because they don't speak their mind quite so public as he does. > > I feel somewhat responsible too because I was one who encouraged him to > post > the thread.... I thought it was funny and it'd be interesting to see the > responses we'd get. I didn't think Mike would get so mad and want him > off > the list. > > And the name-calling/gibberish that's starting to take place isn't showing > > the mature side of the list. But then again, maybe WE weren't showing our > > mature side to post on such a silly topic as mocking Sheila's posts. > > I know this isn't going to stop the discussion... but maybe it'll make a > few > people think first before they post..... ??? > > I'm sorry guys. > > Love and whiskey, > Michelle > the angel who loves to jam** > > > > > > > > > Geez..... but you gotta admit... derrick keeps the list on it's toes :-P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:52:37 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: [EDA] NJC: what did we expect today anyway? Today is the first time in 46 years a full moon fell on Halloween night (goes totally full at 12:41am ET Nov 1st). Is it any wonder the list went werewolf today? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:56:10 EST From: CleaningDuster@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] whoaaaa horsey! Hold up everyone! Derrick how do we know you aren't lying about people emailing you privately telling you to keep this string of posts alive? How do we know that you aren't lying? How do we know that you are even a real jewel fan since all you do is cause TROUBLE!! NOW THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT cHANDINI ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:57:44 -0800 From: "Kevin Douglas" Subject: [EDA] Wow ! This is really cool ! Wow, This is really cool! One question though. Is like everybody posting today goofing off at work or something? I've never seen so many posts during the day. Gotta go now the boss is looking at me. Kevin PS. Would anybody like MY picture? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #518 ***************************