From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #355 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, August 24 2001 Volume 06 : Number 355 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] RE: Jewel's Guitar Strings ["LH" ] Re: [EDA] RE: Jewel's Guitar Strings [RockerGrl8@aol.com] [EDA] Serve the Ego [Barry Howarth ] [EDA] Partial goodbye [NikosSong@aol.com] [EDA] [NJC] Steve in Toronto [Paul Schreiber ] [EDA] "Standing Still" thoughts and EDA gathering [TiamoD@aol.com] [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? [Sean35RL@aol.] Re: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? [NeOblCar@] Re: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? ["cymbalin] Re: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? ["Eric Lev] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:12:54 -0500 From: "LH" Subject: [EDA] RE: Jewel's Guitar Strings I want to say awhile back I saw her on a poster for D'Addario strings. Now, they aren't bad, but I think her guitar (not to mention any effects she may run though) contributes more to the sound. She plays pretty nice guitars and from my experience Taylor and Martin are on top of the game for a reason, BUT Larivee's are great underrated acoutics. My advice as a guitarist: If you don't have a real pricey guitar, go get some Elixir strings....they give ya great tone (they are a bit pricey though) even on some cheap guitars... Matrix www.coilback.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 03:17:17 EDT From: RockerGrl8@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] RE: Jewel's Guitar Strings hey it is d'addario. We asked the guy who tuned her guitar after the nashville show and thats what he said. =) LoVe Courtney Angel w/ dimples ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:08:21 +1100 From: Barry Howarth Subject: [EDA] Serve the Ego Hi Angels! I was amazed by a comment made in one of the articles about Jewel's new CD: ' "Serve the Ego" boasts Indian-flavored backing, a minor-key melody and the cynical refrain "Get on your hands and knees/ And praise the new deity/ Serve the ego" - a long way from critically derided Spirit tracks like "What's Simple Is True".' 'The cynical refrain'?! They didn't get it. This song is no more cynical than "What's Simple Is True". and is very close in spirit (pun intended) to that song, only from a different angle.What does suffuse "Serve the Ego" is not cynicism but irony. Jewel loves irony but so many people just don't see it. But it's one of the things I love about Jewel: her deliciously ironic sense of humour. So Jewel hasn't sold out to cynicism and egoism. "Serve the Ego" is one of a long line of ironic songs -- "Rocker Girl", "Race Car Driver", "My Own Private God's Gift to Women", "Kiss Your Ass", spring immediately to mind; there are probably others. The message of the song is: DON'T serve the ego, particularly the other's ego, and, more particularly, the male ego. And the kick is in the tail: 'Tut tut, oh, to discover oh oh no, you're yesterday's lover'. He may think she's worshiping him but she's dumped him and because of his ego. It is just another in the line of anti-men songs, like the ones mentioned above. Yet there is a 'serve the male ego' side to Jewel. Songs like YWMFM, "Enter from the East" and "Break Me" (all great songs) do have the theme of her being 'owned' by her lover, of her being subordinated to him, doing and being just what he wants her to do and be. This echoes these lines from "Serve the Ego": 'Who says it is not my destiny to let you control me?' But in "Serve the Ego" Jewel is ridiculing such an attitude. The writer of this article -- probably one of those who 'derided Spirit tracks like "What's Simple Is True" ' -- just doesn't appreciate her subtlety and her sense of irony. I haven't heard "Jesus Loves You" but it sounds like another piece of Jewel irony. If both songs are on the CD we will be getting a great CD but also more crap from more uncomprehending (pseudo-)critics. Take care, Barry Howarth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:29:51 EDT From: NikosSong@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Partial goodbye Hello to all you EDAs out there :) Just wanted to say a partial good-bye to all my great EDA friends out there! Since I am going to be computerless at college for a few weeks, it will be very difficult for me to check my e-mail as frequently as I do at home. Therefore, I am going to join either the digest or news version of the list, as well as rarely post until I can get up and running with the Internet again. Hopefully I'll get to talk to you guys soon! Jenni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:03:42 -0400 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: [EDA] [NJC] Steve in Toronto A couple of friends and I saw Steve at the Rivoli last week. The show was great -- started on time :-) went for about an hour and a half. Steve was really /on/ that night. His voice was in fine form, the acoustics were great (he was nice and loud, but not at all distorted) and he was full of stories. He did perhaps the best version of the David Cassidy OLS story I have heard, cleverly seguing into this by mentioning some TV bio special he had seen on David the night before. Poltz mentioned how when touring with Bob Schneider, he and Bob's band would give each other song titles and they'd all have to write songs with that title. Bob and his band would come up with generic stuff like "medicine," but Steve would stumble drunk onto the tour bus with titles such as "I killed Walter Matthau." We did a sing along for "monkeys coming out of my ass." Steve had everyone do the chorus, then the girls, then the guys, then ("sing it like you have big balls") and then the staff at the Rivoli. Poltz had fun chatting with Catherine (Kathryn? ...), the bartender the whole night. Catherine also managed to grab a CD and get it signed for some girl in London (Ontario) who was 17 and too young to get into the bar. (I presume you're either here or on Poltz.com...) I won a bar bet with Tony from universal (interscope? polygram? mercurcy? whatever!). He though that Waterfalls was Steve's song, and didn't believe me when told him it was a TLC cover. Steve didn't play my request for "My carphone's on the pill" for the second time. (The first was at the Shoreline Amphitheater two years ago.) But he did comment once again that we must be old Rugburns fans. The request for "Daddy, she's a Goddess" was met with a "Man you guys are _collectors_." Here's the set list, in no particular order, and not guaranteed to be complete: chinese vacation 98 pounder you were meant for me monkeys coming out of my ass I killed Walter Matthau ten chances everything about you [some new song with "pop tart" in the chorus] ABCs of Love Waterfalls Gold's Gym Guy [not sure, I may be imagining this] Sky fuckingline of Toronto Leavin' Again Little Red Corvette Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:30:06 EDT From: TiamoD@aol.com Subject: [EDA] "Standing Still" thoughts and EDA gathering Hi Angels, I want to thank Jason and Sonja for hosting a great Cali EDA gathering/LRC event (Thanks for letting me perform Jason). I met such warm and genuine people and was reminded again, why I'm a proud EDA. I thought Jewel's San Diego show was not only powerful, but fun and care-free. I most enjoyed the way she communicated with the crowd and showed us how she too, is human. In regards to "Standing Still", if I had to pick a song that I wanted to be the first release, that would be it. I loved it musically and lyrically. It's upbeat but has lots of layers to it. I can't wait to hear the song again. Also, I thought her new band complimented each other really well. I think that you will all be very happy with her new album. I loved hanging out with my new EDA friends and I hope to see you again soon. One love. Peace and harmony, Tiamo :) The Namaste Angel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:36:06 EDT From: Sean35RL@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? With Jewel's new album on the horizon, I am reminded of the abandoned Fritz Creek Store album that she recorded up in Bearsville around the time of Jewelstock back in '96. The album Jewel abandoned in favor of the inferior Spirit. Another thing that has reminded me of the Fritz Creek Store album is the situation concerning the Dave Matthews Band and a similar controversy revolving around that band. Their most recent album, Everyday, came out earlier this year, sold well, but was generally regarded with scorn by fans of the band because the band had been playing out several new songs on tour that were scrapped and abandoned for more cleaned up poppy material that strayed from the bands' roots, much like the Fritz Creek Store material was scrapped and aboandoned for the poppy Spirit songs. This original batch of Dave Matthews Band songs was produced by legendary producer Steve Lillywhite and an entire 12 track album was recorded and shelved in favor of the Everyday album, produced by the loathsome Glen Ballard of Alanis Morissette fame. The parallels to the over-produced Patrick Leonard(of Madonna fame) produced Spirit are obvious. The Dave Matthews band fans however, have made their voices heard. The band was deluged with requests to release the "Lillywhite Sessions" album, as it is commonly called, as either a major release, something to pick up at the band's live shows, or a fan-club album. After the band failed to respond favorably, the very high quality bootleg The Lillywhite Sessions has circulated amongst the bands fans through various channels. Many thousands of copies, all with high quality sound, are in circulation and easily available by posting to a newsgroup or fan site about the band. I have a copy and agree with the consensus, that it is a far superior album to the released Everyday album. I am curious as to why the people on this list never gave much serious thought to trying to get Jewel or "her people" or Atlantic to release the Fritz Creek Store project. Or, better yet, to get a high quality bootleg of the album and share it through the list, the internet, general networking. I think mostly it is because this list keeps in close contact with Jewel's "people," and unlike most mailing lists, bootlegs are rarely discussed here and there is some idea that Jewel, her record company, and her people, actually care about our well-being as fans so we should therefore go along with everything Jewel does, praise every crappy recording she puts out, and remain content because once every blue moon we are thrown a crumb of an opportunity to go to Sessions at West 54th or the Nashville show. (I don't count Jewelstock because that was fan-run for the most part, with out own list-overseer Mike Connell as an integral force, and it was before Jewel's mainstream explosion) Although, even then, there is a 4th Jewelstock tape that none of us have, and we all sit down and take it like contented little lambs. The original reason for not releasing this 4th tape containing the "electric" songs Jewel performed with her band at Jewelstock was because Jewel was supposedly thinking of releasing some of the songs on legitimate releases. Well, it's 5 years later, that excuse doesn't work anymore. So, my hopes in writing this are to perhaps stir up a little dissent on our list, and perhaps even to encourage anyone out there with bootlegs of the Fritz Creek Store material or the Jewelstock Tape 4(although I believe that unless someone taped that show on their own, this tape will be diffiuclt to come by as only a very few people possess it and they aren't the type of people who'd part with it, even for a large amount of money) to share those tapes/recordings with the list or to get them out there through whatever means available. A hodgepodge Fritz Creek Store could even be compiled from live recordings if no one has a studio cut. Although I for one wouldn't mind hearing the album(even though the powers that be on this list will tell you that it was no great shakes and didn't compare to the live versions of the recorded tracks), it has to be someplace though, and as long it's sitting on a shelf somewhere, there's always the possibility that someone will leak it out eventually. Anyway, that's all for now. Just wanted to share the Dave Matthews story because I only recently got my hands on a high quality Lillywhite Sessions CD and it was well-worth the effort and is a truly wonderful album. I highly recommend acquiring one if you're a fan of the Dave Matthews Band. As for Fritz Creek Store, I think it's nice to at least remember the past and the potential it held for fans of Jewel's music. Perhaps her new album will be a quality work, unlike her last effort. But even if it is, and even if it contains some Fritz Creek era songs like "Louisa and her Blue Guitar" and "Love Me Just Leave Me Alone" that Jewel has been playing live recently, let us not be content with a mediocre album. And let us not forget the past and the album that was scrapped in its entirety in favor of Spirit. Thanks for listening, Sean Hooks "When you got nothin' You got nothin' to lose" - -Bob Dylan Sean35RL@aol.com SEANHOOKS@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:07:01 EDT From: NeOblCar@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? To answer the subject line question, there isn't one because like good little children none of us dared to bring a recording device into the barn that fateful JewelStock day to bootleg it. Had we known the recordings would never see the light of day ... well, who knows. Besides the recording there is also the video tape. One of the recorders of the video told me once (half-joking) that if he knew he'd never see it again he might not have been so quick to hand it over. I am not sure how long Jewel's commitment is to Atlantic and who actually "owns" those tapes. I would think that any recording that could potentially and easily sell 50,000 copies, grossing a half-million dollars is well worth the effort to wrap up and produce. From what we were told the recordings were not released because they weren't "were Jewel is at" musically, and would not serve as a proper sophomore CD ... a separation from the raw POY to a mature (and I agree overly produced) Spirit. But, clearly the Bearsville recordings sound more like Jewel today than Spirit. The Fritz Creek appears to be where Jewel is at today. So I am not sure why after investing in the recording sessions someone would just put them on the shelf. Someone who knows more about the music business than I ever would needs to answer that. However, in the end, while I am sure the works are interesting we have a vast majority of these works in high quality boots from other shows of the time. So while I see no reason for them to stay in a vault somewhere, I am not sure releasing them would give us anything we don't already have. == Rob == ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:35:46 -0400 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? while its up to atlantic as to what happens to those recordings, (and any other recordings that never made an album as a track or bonus track, or single b-side) its such a shame that all those recordings are going to such waste just sitting on a shelf somewhere. the same goes for any other artist who may have tons of unreleased recorded material. IMHO, I'd rather hear a different song as the 2nd song on a single, rather than a live version of some other single, or a song thats on the album. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:52:35 -0500 From: "Eric Levenchuck" Subject: Re: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? If any of you are fans of Juliana Hatfield, then probably know she recorded a semi-legendary album a few years ago titled "God's Foot" that never saw the light of day. The reasons for this seem to center around the album being "unmarketable". So, instead of releasing it or giving it back to Juliana for possible release on another label, her former record label (Atlantic, go figure) decided to put it on hold indefinitely. I've heard a rumor that they offered to sell the album back to her for $100,000, but I think they would rather have it sitting on the "shelf" next to "Fritz Creek Store". Eric L. - ----- Original Message ----- From: cymbaline To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [EDA] Fritz Creek Store bootleg. How come there isn't one? > while its up to atlantic as to what happens to those recordings, (and any > other recordings that never made an album as a track or bonus track, or > single b-side) > its such a shame that all those recordings are going to such waste just > sitting on a shelf somewhere. the same goes for any other artist who may > have tons of unreleased recorded material. > > IMHO, I'd rather hear a different song as the 2nd song on a single, rather > than a live version of some other single, or a song thats on the album. > > > cymbie > tree hugger > -- > when night falls > it's dawn one must reach for. > -a. camus ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #355 ***************************