From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #305 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, July 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 305 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] jewel question on millionaire!!!!! [LAJEWEL10@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NashBash...er or whatever it's called [RachKat926@aol.com] [EDA] One More Thing......RWTD [RachKat926@aol.com] [EDA] Nashville invitees, you had better RSVP soon!! [Mike Connell ] [EDA] Vermont Concert [Kris Kelley ] [EDA] reply to Michelle, SP ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] As The EDAs Turn (or is it All My EDAs? The Young and the Selection Process?) [Mike Connell The High-Falootin' Super-Jewellin' Grande-Ole Rootin' Fruity-Loopin' > Hootin-Tootin' Nashville Hoe-down Tho-downb" > Haha!! This is the first thing in a long time that has made me laugh out loud on this list! That was great :) See ya in Nashville :) ~Rachel~ oh.... Dennis.... I'm supposed to say to "bring the damn cow...." whatever...... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:29:56 EDT From: RachKat926@aol.com Subject: [EDA] One More Thing......RWTD You can't get rid of me... I don't think I've ever posted this much!! Anyways-- I was telling my band director today that I was going to miss camp on Monday and Tuesday, well for obvious reasons. He said that was cool and that his son was in Ride With the Devil! I know that it was set and filmed right around here in Kansas City and I guess his son wanted to be an extra just to be closer to Jewel. But then "he grew up" according to my director. Whatever!! Just a random Jewely type story ~Rachel~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:32:55 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: [EDA] Nashville invitees, you had better RSVP soon!! This is directed to all of the invitees to the Jewel concert/live recording session on Monday in Nashville. Before I start, I again wish to clarify that this email is going out individually to all 1,800 subscribers of the three versions of the Jewel mailing list at smoe.org. This is because I do not have the email addresses of the 100 invitees, thus ALL list subscribers get this email. Sorry for any inconvenience to others, but I am sure you will understand. I JUST got off the phone with MrBB, and he has informed me that over 40 of the 100 invitees have not yet RSVP'd their invitations per the instructions you received in your official invitation. It is now about 10:45pm ET Thursday, meaning you have a little over 24 hours from now to do so or you will NOT get on the *final* list of invitees that will be at the door of the venue. That is what the RSVP process is for, to finalize that you are coming and to get your name on that official FINAL list. If not on that final list, you do not get in. The J-team (Jewel management team for the new folk here) is heading to Nashville this weekend for obvious reasons and will not have computer access meaning this whole invite/RSVP/cancel/new-invite process rolls to a screeching halt late Friday evening eastern USA time. So, if you DO plan to go, you had better RSVP per the instructions in your official invitation pretty soon or you will NOT get in the door of the venue. It is that simple. Also, to be fair to the others on the waiting list, if you know you cannot attend after all, PLEASE do the honorable thing and cancel as soon as possible per the instructions in your official invitation so that new invitations can go out to people on the waiting list, who then will also have to RSVP or cancel by late tomorrow evening per the instructions they would receive. If the 40 or so of you don't, well, I guess it means 120 or so folks will have tons of room to stretch out during the show. Please don't screw up and ruin your chance to see what promises to be THE Jewel event of the century (so far anyway). Your list manager/grand poobah, Mike :-) * If you are new to the Jewel list and need a helping hand, * or have a burning question about Jewel and/or the list, * The Jewel/EveryDay Angels List Homepage & Guide is at: * http://www.quackquack.net/jewel * Many basic/common Jewel and list questions can be answered there :-) * * If you can't find the answer on the page have any list related * questions, please feel free to email me at ducksoup@quackquack.net * or you can IM me on either of the AOL names below: * DuckOfPrey or WhyADuck55 and/on AOL or AOL Instant Messenger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:19:44 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] RE: Answers 2. The oh so devious process that was bothering voices of doom: Every EDA who followed the reply instructions to the private concert announcement by the original deadline was invited. After that, replies were put on a secondary list and first come first served. For every cancellation, a new invitation goes out from the secondary list. That simple. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Who said it was devious? I sure didn't. Anyway, was there not a limit of 100 that could be invited, as was stated in the original post? OR, were there less than 100 who replied before the deadline? (I find this hard to believe, and have also heard otherwise) :-) But if the answer to either of the above questions is "yes", then ok. But also that would mean there was false information in the original post, or the unthinkable occured, that being less than 100 replied. I won't comment on the secondary list method...I think people know what I think about that method for anything executed online/electronically. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:49:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kelley Subject: [EDA] Vermont Concert Hey all, I know I've posted a bunch of times, I just want to get a list of people who are going to the Vermont show (with jewel AND STEVE!!!!!) and want to get together before hand for dinner or even afterwards for dinner or coffee. Mail me so I can get a list going. Love yas all, ~Kris~ The Persistant Singing NH Angel :-) ===== Send a message to my Cell : fijifruits@voicestream.net AIM Name: dadiivaa "Innocence can't be lost, it just needs to be maintained" ~Jewel~ ~Visit The Diva Palace. http://www.geocities.com/fijifruits Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:55:28 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] reply to Michelle, SP >You make me laugh. - --------------------------------------------------- Thanks, I'm glad I'm able to do that. :-) >You know very well what your intentions were in posting about the >"selection process." - --------------------------------------------------- Of course I do, for they were my intentions. Just like I also know what I'm thinking right now...lol. >You make it sound so innocent :o) When in fact the original letter you >wrote sounded like an attack on the Jewel team for being unfair to EDAs >who weren't invited. Fair?? Unfair?? This was a GIFT!!! - ---------------------------------------------------- In your opinion I make it sound so innocent. I wasn't trying to make it "sound" any certain way. It was a question. It's as simple as that. :-) I won't reply to your gift or fairness part...it would confuse you too much. >Let me guess, you were one of those kids who's parents would buy one of >those awesome brand new super "Power Wheels" trucks for Christmas (that >all your friends wanted), and you threw a tantrum because it wasn't red. - ------------------------------------------------------------- Let me guess...you're wrong. :-) I don't even know what you're talking about...or maybe you're speaking from experience? >What are YOU going to do about it, other than complain and get on >everyones nerves? - ---------------------------------------------------------- Just trying to keep the list "fair" and "EDA-like". But whether I post or not, I think it's apparant what direction it's heading in, sadly enough. >Thats all. & I'm not posting again on this subject...lol there's a >reason I lurk, and this is it. - --------------------------------------------------------- What is it? You never said. Thanks for your input! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:20:22 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: [EDA] As The EDAs Turn (or is it All My EDAs? The Young and the Selection Process?) Was posted by......hmmm, .i dunno, I've lost track: > >What are YOU going to do about it, other than complain and get on > >everyones nerves? Derrick replied: > Just trying to keep the list "fair" and "EDA-like". But whether I post or > not, I think it's apparant what direction it's heading in, sadly enough. Considering if you had not posted about the selection process.........to begin with........this would not..... Nah, you know what.....nevermind......screw it......it's late and I'm going to bed....this is just not worth it anymore.....kinda like Mike Tyson fighting Wayne Gretzky. Goodnight everybody!! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:39:37 EDT From: Wigglytooth523@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: Nashville Hehehe I got you! ok now its my time to beg plead and whine - I DIDNOT get to go to Nashville- parents said no. I dont think I wouldnt have one of the 100 if they gave me the ok. Thats not what I wanna beg and plead about though. PLEASE PLEASE STOP FIGHTING. If we anger the Jteam and/or Ms Kilcher this may never happened again. Ive been a jewel fan for over 5 years an EDA for almost 5. Jewel and the EDAs have changed my life in many small ways- but together those small changes have changed me completely. She and those special few mean the world to me. I hope someday to meet her and tell her that. Without these private EDA shows I wont have that chance. I missed Jewelstock, Bearsville and Nashville. Let there be a Los Vegas, Orlando etc. Or maybe a Nashville 2002. Please stop your fighting for the sake of future shows and the health of the EDAs as a community. There has been a massive increase in childish fighting in the last few years.One of my best friends 'delisted' a long while back ,like 2 years ago- because of this and Ive actually contemplated that myself. What to do? What to do? Decisions Decisions Eliot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:59:50 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] How about...As the List Turns? :-) Anyone remember my seemingly off-subject post earlier today, or maybe yesterday, about the Big Brother show? Asking if anyone watched that, and what they thought? Well, I had a few replies, and I thank those for sharing that with me. It was a sincere post by the way. BUT, there was also another reason for my writing that. Something I wanted to see if anyone may have picked up on, but I don't think they did, or at least haven't told me if they did. This list is alot like Big Brother. Choose to believe it or not, of course that's up to each person individually. But it really is. We are being watched over, all the time, and sometimes things we think, or are led to think we have some control over, well, we don't. There's something much bigger going on here than many of you realize. Thankfully, and fortunately it's all contained in this electronic list. Otherwise there could be some serious issues. So I was just using my previous post as a sort of "thinking" post...to see if anyone caught on. And, like on Big Brother, there are teams here, there are alliances, and there are friendships, and maybe even some relationships. I've had some good times over the years, mostly early on, but a few more recently (within the past year). And I've met some cool people as well. However, it seems to me that each passing day, there are more close-minded people, who assume WAY too much. I don't like people like that. I go out of my way to try to not be that way. I ask questions, hoping for answers...some I may never get. But I won't assume something. I asked a simple question yesterday. I never got an answer. I got something I think that was supposed to be an answer. But it had loop holes. After reading it, I then read another e-mail, which convinced me of my thoughts. If the J-Team doesn't want to reveal the selection process to anyone, that's FINE. But just say so, PLEASE. That's as simple as I can put it. Just say, "we don't want anyone to know how we picked these names." You don't even have to give a reason why you don't want anyone to know. Let us think what we want regarding this. But, we weren't even told this much. Yes, it's a gift, I KNOW this, and have KNOWN this from day one. But I still think people deserve to know why they didn't get picked, especially since NOW we know that EVERYone who replied before the deadline was invited. More than 100? Who knows. I think there was. Yet, it was limited to 100. Ok. So less than 100 signed up? Doubtful. See the problem? I know it isn't just me. There are also some people whom I KNEW without a doubt in my mind would most definitely be invited. I'm not psychic, so it's funny how I knew this. Big Brother. There are some people on this list that I think are really intelligent, and thoughtful, and realistic as well. Open-minded too. And it's refreshing to see this in today's society. But the number's keep dwindling. I'm not even on the list today for the same reason I was 5 years ago. It's not even about Jewel now...wow, what a concept. This is far better than any college Psychology course. It's about the people, the interaction, the drama, and the inner struggles. And, the friendships. So I'm sure there will be more good times and bad times too, and just for the record, about 90% of most flame wars I do stay out of. Mainly because I just don't have the time or energy to bother. But this "gift" or whatever it's being called now really made me think about alot. There are things going on that aren't fair. Many of the same people seem to have much more "luck" around here than others. Coincidence? Maybe. I think not. (I said THINK not) But, this is how society is as well. This list is a good representation of that. It's interesting. While the number of open minded people has dwindled in my opinion, I know there are still some who are hanging around. So, for the record, anyone who still might care....I've never said one cuss word as others have, I've never said I'd rather see non-EDA's at this show, I've never said I wasn't happy for those going, however many that may be now, and I've never said I didn't think this was a generous offer by Jewel or whoever decided upon this. I just think some things should be known. Gift or not. If anyone cares to offer their insight to this discussion, please write me privately and I'd be happy to reply. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 04:31:52 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: [EDA] commotion on the list re nashville invite I'm sure most people are not bickering, and the ones that are are just giving the list a bad name, but really when it comes down to it people should be lucky that they are being invited to this, and even if not everyone got to go this time, there will probably be other invitations, but if people keep bickering then maybe there WON"T be other invitations like this. So, if you guys didn't get it this time wait till next time...but if the list keeps being obnoxious, maybe invitations like this won't happen again. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #305 ***************************