From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #301 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, July 26 2001 Volume 06 : Number 301 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Clarification - re: Important reminder to all Nashville invitees & guests ["Connell, Michael P" ] [EDA] NNC (no Nashville Content:)involves the name ~Kris~ [KSco2001@aol.c] [EDA] RE: selection process..Ok now...enough. ["Karacostas, Derrick W." <] [EDA] what Mr. BB said... ["Kelli Coppens" ] FW: [EDA] selection process ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] Re: [EDA] what Mr. BB said... [JewelRocks4real@aol.com] Re: FW: [EDA] selection process ["Kevin Douglas" ] [EDA] Re: jewel wall paper [Minnie822@aol.com] [EDA] Reply to Derrick: Selection Process [JewelWN2BE@aol.com] RE: [EDA] Selection process bullshit...enough is enough ["Karacostas, Der] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:42:40 -0400 From: "Connell, Michael P" Subject: [EDA] Clarification - re: Important reminder to all Nashville invitees & guests I wrote: > I just want to remind all people going to the Jewel show this Monday in > Nashville {snip} Seems I confused at least one person. Oooops, sorry. I sent that message (and this one) to all 1,800 or so subscribers of jewel, jewel-digest and jewel-news, as I do not have the names of the 100 invitees to the Nashville show. At least one, perhaps more list members might have taken this previous post by me as a sign they were invited and somehow missed that particular invitation/email. Sorry for any confusion. Mike (EDA list owner), normally ducksoup@quackquack.net or mikec@smoe.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:11:25 EDT From: Harrisbros@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Keep it low key (friendly advice) *** Andrea let something slip: >I found a [HOTEL NAME] .X miles from where Jewel is playing.. I'm planning >on staying there and I know another EDA is too.. Email me privatelt if >you want the info .. I t would be awesome if we took over the hotel >hehehepeace!Andrea Hmmm... a [HOTEL NAME], .X miles from the venue. Clues like this make it possible to "triangulate" the location! NOT what we want to see happening, guys... think before you post, or IM the info to your EDA friends who aren't going (if they let it slip, or even worse, post it somewhere, well -- it's still YOUR fault!). Also, remember that anybody on the EDA list can email you, and ask for details... how do you know they're even invited, or just trolling for information? BAD BAD ANDREA! ;-) On a lighter note, how ya been doing, Andrea? I'm looking forward to seeing you again. It's been a couple of years, hasn't it? *** Alan (MrBB) posted: >As far as photo ops go after the private concert, lets just see how >it goes. Things like that happen when its comfortable. No more clues given on this list and no more public bickering about the selection process, and everyone's (ie, Jewel and her management) chances of feeling "comfortable" improve. Trust me, if non-invited folks start showing up (or even the threat of it is perceived), "photo op chances" GO AWAY. I've seen this happen several times before at other "private" events, and it can be a real downer. After being able to talk one-on-one and take pictures with Jewel back at the last show of this type (Jewelstock), I'm urging everyone not to screw up YOUR chance to have something similar. IMHO, the three keys are: 1) No location hints at all. NONE. We're being tested here, please don't blow the list's credibility. 2) No silly arguments on the list about how this was done, or what was or was not fair (it just screws it up for everyone). Don't be negative. Smile. PLAY NICE. 3) Be patient, let it happen and enjoy it. Meet lots of fellow EDAs and when you get back from the show, share your tales. That said, I really like Donovan's "NashBash", too. Any other suggestions for a show name? Dennis, hoping people listen up before it's too late... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kelley Subject: [EDA] Whooooo Vermont Whooo for Steve coming to Vermont. I can't beleive I'm giong to Vermont to see Jewel....it seems like such an odd place for her to go. Anyone know why she opted to head to VT? I know it's a charity thing, does she have an affiliation with this charity? Also, I know the area pretty well (it's only a stones throw from my old college) so if you want some cheap and pretty places to stay mail me and I'll give ya the info :-) I say we have a lil Vermont pre-concert gathering, anyone interested lemme know. ~kris~ the singing nh angel ===== Send a message to my Cell : fijifruits@voicestream.net AIM Name: dadiivaa "Innocence can't be lost, it just needs to be maintained" ~Jewel~ ~Visit The Diva Palace. http://www.geocities.com/fijifruits Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:43:49 EDT From: KSco2001@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NNC (no Nashville Content:)involves the name ~Kris~ Hi I am a guy, and my name is Kris, I have seen a lot of kris' post to the list, how many guy Kris' are out there. Peopl at school used to call me Kris with a k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:56:05 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] RE: selection process..Ok now...enough. I never said I wasn't happy for those going...in fact, I think I said something like it's great that 100 EDA's will get to go to this. And I've never said anything was wrong. It's amusing how people assume so much, and fabricate things into something they aren't. I've just had ONE question the past couple days. *How were the winners selected?* Or, you could say, "Why weren't the others *not* selected?" It's a simple request for the rules/selection method. Something that is always stated beforehand in other contests, games, etc. People usually like knowing these things up front. So I'm curious. It's like it's top secret or something, and I find that even more amusing. I mean, what's so difficult about revealing how the winners were chosen anyway? Seems like a simple thing to ask. Since it's already been done anyway. > Well obviously the people who weren't invited are very disappointed. > Rightly > so. But come on now guys... let's do the right thing and just be happy for > > the people who ARE going. There are only 100 EDAs invited. > > Case closed. It doesn't really matter how they were selected, or what made > > the Jewel Team pick certian people over others... so lets not bitch and > complain about it. > I Think it matters alot. > quite frankly ITS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS how they selected people.... what > does that say about US and the appreciation we show to JEWEL if we get all > pissy and DEMAND to know???? > Um, yes it most certainly IS our business. We are EDA's. Part of this "contest". If you're a participant, you have the right to know how the winners were chosen, AND actually to see a list of the winners. But I'm not even talking about that part of it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:02:27 -0400 From: "Kelli Coppens" Subject: [EDA] what Mr. BB said... Just want to question the selection process. Mr.BB wrote: "EVERY EDA that replied to the email by the original deadline was invited" I got the email on a saturday and i replied on Sunday and i was NOT invited. I thought the deadline was Monday. So please tell me Mr. BB, how is what you said true??? Kelli the disappointed cause she isnt going to nashville angel :-( _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:32:36 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: FW: [EDA] selection process Wow, that's funny. You don't know what you're talking about. :-) As said before, I'm not the only one, by far. Just the one doing the talking. > ---------- > From: Kevin Douglas[SMTP:kdoug52@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:15 PM > To: dkaracos@UTMB.EDU; jewel@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [EDA] selection process > > Derrick wrote: > > It's not AS much an issue for me as it may be for others > who were signed up to go and weren't selected, but doesn't anyone want to > know how the 100 were picked? > > Wow! That's funny. YOU'RE the ONLY one raising a stink about this. It sure > > does look like it's an issue for you. Take some ExLax and let us enjoy the > > honor of this exceptional gift from Jewel and the JTeam. > > Kevin > > > >From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." > >To: "'Jewel list'" > >Subject: [EDA] selection process > >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:39:44 -0500 > > > >Maybe it's just me, or maybe I'm the only one who will speak up about > this, > >but does anyone else care to know exactly how the 100 "winners" for the > TN > >show were chosen? It's not AS much an issue for me as it may be for > others > >who were signed up to go and weren't selected, but doesn't anyone want to > >know how the 100 were picked? I've never heard of a contest, drawing, > >game, > >anything, where something was given away (in this case, free tickets) > >without some criteria, and/or rules established on how the prizes would > be > >awarded. And I know if I signed up and didn't get chosen I'd SURE want > to > >know...since some who were chosen can't even go. It just doesn't seem > very > >fair to everyone. I think the EDA's deserve to know how the 100 were > >selected. Otherwise, it's just like one big toss up, and for all anyone > >knows, it could just be some personal preference on who got picked. > There > >are tons of options to choose from if this isn't made clear. Was it the > >people who post the most to the list? Someone else actually suggested > this > >to me...which I never even thought about beforehand. Was it first come > >basis? (the WORST way in my opinion, when doing something electronically > >anyway), or if not, then what? Number of letters in someone's name? lol > >Come on guys, how were these people picked? Tell us. I know I'm not the > >only one who wants to know. Maybe I'm just the designated spokesperson. > > >If > >we're never told, I think it really makes this list look pretty bad. > Yeah, > >it's nice and all that 100 get to go to a free show, but when it's not > even > >mentioned ONCE how those 100 were selected (and why the 100's weren't > >selected), what does that say about the list? > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:43:26 EDT From: JewelRocks4real@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] what Mr. BB said... In a message dated 7/26/2001 1:10:20 PM, kelcoppens@hotmail.com writes: << Just want to question the selection process. Mr.BB wrote: "EVERY EDA that replied to the email by the original deadline was invited" I got the email on a saturday and i replied on Sunday and i was NOT invited. I thought the deadline was Monday. So please tell me Mr. BB, how is what you said true??? >> You just don't get it do you? Do you really believe the jteam is using this gift to punish some of you??!! Give me a break. Before accusing them did anyone stop to remember one of the biggest internet stories last week? I'm talking about that train wreck in Baltimore that knocked out important underground fiberoptic cables on the east coast causing millions of emails to be lost or delayed a few days during this past weekend? Something to think about before you go making your email delivery problems the jteams fault. Dee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:48:33 -0700 From: "Kevin Douglas" Subject: Re: FW: [EDA] selection process Wow! That's funny! Being an EDA, I deserve to know the names of the others, if you're not the only one by far. *Stomping feet in a rage*.It's my right to know. Why don't you quit your whining. Kevin >From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." >To: "'Jewel list'" >Subject: FW: [EDA] selection process >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:32:36 -0500 > >Wow, that's funny. You don't know what you're talking about. :-) As said >before, I'm not the only one, by far. Just the one doing the talking. > > > ---------- > > From: Kevin Douglas[SMTP:kdoug52@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:15 PM > > To: dkaracos@UTMB.EDU; jewel@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [EDA] selection process > > > > Derrick wrote: > > > > It's not AS much an issue for me as it may be for others > > who were signed up to go and weren't selected, but doesn't anyone want >to > > know how the 100 were picked? > > > > Wow! That's funny. YOU'RE the ONLY one raising a stink about this. It >sure > > > > does look like it's an issue for you. Take some ExLax and let us enjoy >the > > > > honor of this exceptional gift from Jewel and the JTeam. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > >From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." > > >To: "'Jewel list'" > > >Subject: [EDA] selection process > > >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:39:44 -0500 > > > > > >Maybe it's just me, or maybe I'm the only one who will speak up about > > this, > > >but does anyone else care to know exactly how the 100 "winners" for the > > TN > > >show were chosen? It's not AS much an issue for me as it may be for > > others > > >who were signed up to go and weren't selected, but doesn't anyone want >to > > >know how the 100 were picked? I've never heard of a contest, drawing, > > >game, > > >anything, where something was given away (in this case, free tickets) > > >without some criteria, and/or rules established on how the prizes would > > be > > >awarded. And I know if I signed up and didn't get chosen I'd SURE want > > to > > >know...since some who were chosen can't even go. It just doesn't seem > > very > > >fair to everyone. I think the EDA's deserve to know how the 100 were > > >selected. Otherwise, it's just like one big toss up, and for all >anyone > > >knows, it could just be some personal preference on who got picked. > > There > > >are tons of options to choose from if this isn't made clear. Was it >the > > >people who post the most to the list? Someone else actually suggested > > this > > >to me...which I never even thought about beforehand. Was it first come > > >basis? (the WORST way in my opinion, when doing something >electronically > > >anyway), or if not, then what? Number of letters in someone's name? >lol > > >Come on guys, how were these people picked? Tell us. I know I'm not >the > > >only one who wants to know. Maybe I'm just the designated >spokesperson. > > > > >If > > >we're never told, I think it really makes this list look pretty bad. > > Yeah, > > >it's nice and all that 100 get to go to a free show, but when it's not > > even > > >mentioned ONCE how those 100 were selected (and why the 100's weren't > > >selected), what does that say about the list? > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:52:27 EDT From: Minnie822@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: jewel wall paper hello angels Does anyone know where i can find really good jewel wall paper? hope someone can help me out thanks diana the writing angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:52:31 EDT From: JewelWN2BE@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Reply to Derrick: Selection Process Derrick, You make me laugh. You know very well what your intentions were in posting about the "selection process." >I've just had ONE question the past couple days. >*How were the winners selected?* >Or, you could say, "Why weren't the others *not* selected?" You make it sound so innocent :o) When in fact the original letter you wrote sounded like an attack on the Jewel team for being unfair to EDAs who weren't invited. Fair?? Unfair?? This was a GIFT!!! Let me guess, you were one of those kids who's parents would buy one of those awesome brand new super "Power Wheels" trucks for Christmas (that all your friends wanted), and you threw a tantrum because it wasn't red. It is a valid question, how the selection process was done.... and if Mr.BB would like to tell us, FINE...and if he doesn't tell us, FINE. *Shrug* What are YOU going to do about it, other than complain and get on everyones nerves? Thats all. & I'm not posting again on this subject...lol there's a reason I lurk, and this is it. love *peace, & jewel (with a little steve on the side) Michelle the angel who loves to jam** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:57:26 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: RE: [EDA] Selection process bullshit...enough is enough If you're going to say something about me, have a reason, PLEASE. I wouldn't make assumptions about you or anyone without having some justification. So now I can say (justifiably), that you assume too much. :-) > because an email from the Jewel team did not invited you to the private > concert ! > ??? Did I ever say I tried to go? Please ask before assuming so much. Yes, I'm so selfish, that's why I'm trying to find out for the *100's* who didn't get picked, WHY they didn't get picked. This isn't for me so much as it is for all the others. If you call that being selfish, then you have a serious problem. > I don't see you dying ? Are you missing some air ? Can't you breathe ? > Because so far, all I can see is a boy pissed, not a boy in some kind of > danger. Yes, I understand how you must feel, and perhaps the process of > selecting the 100 EDA's did not seemed unfair, but I would like to know > how would you feel now if the email was in your Inbox, you wouldn't have > complains, you wouldn't be pissed, you will be happy and perhaps feeling > sorry for the ones that were not invited. > I wish the process were made public. That's what upsets me. Not the fact I'm not going...see that's my choice. > But that's not the case, and > you did not got invited, so you simply start rambling about the > selection process, making it sound like Jewel is fucking up with > people....let me tell you my concept of appreciation.... > Ok, I'll stop replying now, I can tell this guy just has no clue. lol ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #301 ***************************