From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #157 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, April 22 2001 Volume 06 : Number 157 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC Coldplay ["Rowley" ] [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #156 ["Mike Gray" ] [EDA] Walk America/ March of Dimes [liz lee ] [EDA] [Eda]A bit long, but worth it. [BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com] [EDA] Normal Person [Gerrit ] Re: [EDA] Normal Person ["Lorrie Stewart" ] Re: [EDA] Normal Person [Mike Connell ] Re: [EDA] Normal Person [Clm4ever1248@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel"The Charitable One" ["Joe Kunis" ] [EDA] Jewel recording in Galic [TIGGER3122@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Normal Person [Gerrit ] Re: [EDA] Normal Person [Gerrit ] [EDA] Jewel is normal ["Jean Harlean" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:03:27 +0100 From: "Rowley" Subject: [EDA] NJC Coldplay Wow your only just finding Coldplay?!?! I've been listening to them for a year, finally something to love England for! If your looking for other bands to get into of a similar kind I could advise you. You could also try the Dublin trio; JJ72. These are the coldplay of this year, where travis were the coldplay of the year before!!! If you havent heard of travis you must check them out. Oh and before I go I just want to make you jealous by saying I'm off to a concert in August to see: U2 Red Hot Chilli Peppers Coldplay JJ72 Relish At a huge one day festival at Slane Castle, Outside Dublin, Ireland. Is anyone else going to this concert? Anyone wish they were going? Ticets sold out in 45 minutes and thats 85,000 tickets!!! Take it Easy Folks, Nick (Fish-Protecting-Angel!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:32:40 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #156 > For her extensive work in fields of charity, she will likely someday get a > Nobel. >Some might say she is a superbreed, after seeing how her direct lineage is of such greatness as to help institute a state which >is nigh impossible for "normal" people to survive in. Please, please, tell me you guys are kidding. Jewel is not a god, she is a normal person, in that she's a human being. For the person who asked if Tori Amos is a normal person, actually, having met her several times, she *is* very much a normal person, very down to earth and very human, always willing to commune with her fans before a gig and listen to their stories and acknowledge those who put her where she is today, a rather stark contrast to the Jewel Kilcher who I saw give a fan the finger for asking for a photo, who threw away flowers given to her, who signs autographs with such ill grace that she may as well not have bothered, who scrumpled up someone's inlay card deliberately, and who has behaved in such an anti-social way that it seems to me that she no longer has any connection with her fans, or perhaps even the real world. The inability, the sheer blinkerdness of some members of this list staggers me - look around at the evidence people are putting to you, and rather than immediately assume that they are lying about Jewel's actions, consider that these people might be trying to get their voices heard above that of the big superstar who is misrepresenting or emotionally hurting them. >and by the way, most people do not start their own charity, so it >is not "normal" Actually, it is pretty normal in the music world for large donations to be made to charity. REM do it all the time (albeit without shouting it from the rooftops), Tori Amos did it with RAINN, and hundreds of thousands of other 'celebrities' give away a portion of their incomes to worthy causes. It's pretty standard, actually. Incidentally, the new REM record should not be missed by anyone who considers themselves a music fan... it's absolutely mindblowing from start to finish, a record of true beauty. Face facts, Jewel is a person who can play guitar well and writes some songs, that doesn't automatically set her apart or change the rules for normal social contact. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:17:43 -0700 (PDT) From: liz lee Subject: [EDA] Walk America/ March of Dimes Are any EDAs going to the March of Dimes? It's the 29th, next week. I'm going, but I'm not walking, I'm volunteering. I hope to see some of you there! ===== ~*Liz*~ the Misplaced Angel HARMLESS & SHAMELESS PLUGS (if you can, check 'em out!) MUSIC: Motor Betty, Amanda Jones, Shannon Curfman, Joy Eden Harrison, Steve Poltz, Shakira, CoCo Lee, Faye Wong, Nancy Micciulla!, LAURA PAUSINI!! ACTORS: Haley Joel Osment, Lucas Black!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:30:06 EDT From: BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com Subject: [EDA] [Eda]A bit long, but worth it. "Please, please, tell me you guys are kidding. Jewel is not a god, she is a normal person, in that she's a human being. For the person who asked if Tori Amos is a normal person, actually, having met her several times, she *is* very much a normal person." It seems you are declaring absolutely, when a dynamic of interpretation is more in order. I ask to you to consider the defined attributes of a god. The early architectural nations built massive step pyramids to worship their gods, who consequently, were also hominid. That, in a consistency throughout every culture and history, has been defining of the godheads, excepting varied plains tribes, who were more inclined to spirit worship. The Egyptians had their pyramids, Babylonians had their step pyramids, Aztecs had their temples, Christians had Sinai, Greco-Romanic had Olympus, and the Orient had Wu-Tang Mountain. It is in this tradition that the worship of those who stand above, as a head and representative for the societies spiritual and moral integrity, become avatar for such society. On that note, it may be confidently stated there is not a prolific or visionary artist who is adulated in their society who has not been esteemed the title of godhead, given the devotional belief in a holistic spirituality, and so, if by nothing else, in that she absorbs the collective mindset en-masse, so could Jewel be declared a godhead as much as Hendrix, or Morrison, or Tori. To stand on the stage is to become the children of a lesser god. I was under the impression Tori did not maintain she was "normal." Indeed, she has such abstractionist lyrics as to rather demonstrate against the perception. >>Actually, it is pretty normal in the music world for large donations to be made to charity You are taking the "normal" out of context. It was declared initially in the general sense, at least as far as I felt in responding. The normal, was "just like me" normal, not as it applies to the industry. To close, and open upon a new point, she may be of the species homo erectus, and so human, at least as far as I shall commit here, since to state otherwise would predictably arise an angry mob to burn down any threat to the human dominance. This is why aliens won't land;)J/k. Upon the new point, I will muse upon some lyrics Jewel wrote, "Gather myself around my faith, to light the darkness most feared." Now, I was thinking, the darkness most feared is that which comes from the sun. People who stared at the sun in times past and present do so to become visionaries, prophets. Take the Sun dance of the Sioux, or the Prophets of Apollo, or even Jesus, affixed to the cross. It is this darkness people fear, for it becomes the truth. I'm not saying go stare into the sun, rather its truth should be evident in racism and persecution in general. The dark skinned of this world are also often most feared, and persecuted because they are dark by the sun. Well, thats all for now, thanks for reading! Builder Blind man on the corner said its simple, like flipping a coin, no matter what side it lands on, its someone else's dime. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:44:54 -0700 From: Gerrit Subject: [EDA] Normal Person Okay, Please. Someone. Explain to me what a normal person is. Because I have yet to meet one. Gerrit ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:49:03 -0400 From: "Lorrie Stewart" Subject: Re: [EDA] Normal Person yaya :) normal is a word that is just as stupid as reality. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:54:56 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] Normal Person Gerrit asked: >Okay, > > Please. Someone. Explain to me what a normal person is. Because I >have yet to meet one. Believe it or not, Dennis Harris is a normal person. Scared? Mike :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:21:17 EDT From: Clm4ever1248@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Normal Person if you think about it long and hard no one is normal...everyone has their own little weird thing that they do. Normal is just a make believe word people use to refer to eachother! michelle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:31:16 -0400 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel"The Charitable One" I think you might be in love, and a little starstruck to boot! Many people give to charities who make very little cashola in comparison to Jewel. She's no more a humanitarian than I am except the world does not know of my giving. Most people in fact choose not to publicize their generous donations, I don't need the whole wide knowing about my generosity or patting me on the back! JOE > > These are not "normal" achievements. Some might say she is not a "HUMAN >BEING," some might say she is a human doing. Some might say she is a >superbreed, after seeing how her direct lineage is of such greatness as to >help institute a state which is nigh impossible for "normal" people to >survive in. I have seen Alaska, met scores of people from Alaska, and they >are far from "normal" as is. > > The character of Jewel, I believe, is best found not in her doing what >she >loves, so much as doing what she needs so what she loves may thrive. I.E. >the >charity,( and by the way, most people do not start their own charity, so it >is not "normal") > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:00:58 -0400 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: Mike is dead on! a rather stark contrast to >the Jewel Kilcher who I saw give a fan the finger for asking for a photo, >who threw away flowers given to her, who signs autographs with such ill >grace that she may as well not have bothered, who scrumpled up someone's >inlay card deliberately, and who has behaved in such an anti-social way >that >it seems to me that she no longer has any connection with her fans, or >perhaps even the real world. > Dude, You're pretty right on. I saw her at a book reading/signing in November in New York City, and as a fan she really disappointed me. When it came time for her to sign autographs, she acted like she would have rather have been having root canal work done! She signed my CD like a 3 year old (a scribble!), rarely smiled, taking pictures seemed like torture to her...you get the picture. She seemed truly dis interested in her fans and hardly made eye contact with people. If she was ill or having a bad day maybe one could rationalize her behavior, but my friend who is a professional celebrity photographer in NYC has told me she acts like this almost every time he has seen her in New York. She doesn't really live up to her hype in my book, but in the end, who looks for pop stars to be sincere role models anyway? Not me! JOE _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:08:33 EDT From: TIGGER3122@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel recording in Galic Hello to all, Last night I went to the Minnesota pipes & drum (Bagpipes and Irish/Scotish music) and the woman from River Dance was there. She sang about eight songs and three of them were in Gaelic. I am currently learning how to speak Gaelic and play the bagpipes and it was so fun trying to translate. It really is a beautiful language and I was thinking that it would be sooo cool if Jewel recorded some songs in Gaelic! Gaelic is one o the oldest languages along with helping to create the European languages. How cool to relate to so much! The sings are so beautiful on there own but I think that Jewel's voice would add a cool element to that! Just a thought. Have a Great Sunday, Caitlin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:19:53 -0700 From: Gerrit Subject: Re: [EDA] Normal Person How are you qualified as normal? What makes you normal? Does this mean I'll never meet you? :> Gerrit Joe Kunis wrote: > > Me!!!!!!!! > > >From: Gerrit > >Reply-To: amethyst@endor.org > >To: "jewel@smoe.org" > >Subject: [EDA] Normal Person > >Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:44:54 -0700 > > > >Okay, > > > > Please. Someone. Explain to me what a normal person is. Because I > >have yet to meet one. > > > >Gerrit > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:21:19 -0700 From: Gerrit Subject: Re: [EDA] Normal Person Clm4ever1248@aol.com wrote: > > if you think about it long and hard no one is normal...everyone has their own > little weird thing that they do. Normal is just a make believe word people > use to refer to eachother! > michelle My point exactly. It's ludicrous to argue over whether or not Jewel (or anyone else for that matter) is "normal". Gerrit ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:16:44 -0500 From: "Jean Harlean" Subject: [EDA] Jewel is normal Mike reminded us: *Please, please, tell me you guys are kidding. Jewel is not a god, she is a normal person, in that she's a human being.* I couldn't agree more. Jewel is not a superbreed, a god/goddess or saint. I'm not saying she isn't special in her own way (aren't we all though?) but shes really just well...a normal human. Now maybe if she could lay her hands on the sick and cure them that would be something-but until she does, I'll stick to thinking of her as just plain Jewel. Peace&love, *Jean* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:22:36 EDT From: JeWeLzKeWL@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Something besides another "normal" post Hey everyone! I haven't written on here in awhile..I was just wondering if any1 had the lyrics to Shadow's Play and could send them to me. Please write back if you do =) - -Jade *Tiny Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:31:06 EDT From: Twinkletoes131@cs.com Subject: [EDA] *Normal* NJC Hey all you *normal* people! Maybe you can help me out here... What exactly does a *normal* person like to read? :) I'm in the process of creating a piece of literature, and I'm looking for some input. I'll probably end up subjecting the reader to my *normal* perceptions on life, but that may too *normal* to go anywhere. Or too (dare i say) abnormal :) Anyway, if you guys have any input, I'd really appreciate it. If not, feel free to go back to posting on the *normal* thread. It's a *normal* reaction, after all :) *Sarah* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:38:30 -0400 From: "Scott Evans" Subject: Re: [EDA] Something besides another "normal" post From my website, Planet Jewel (http://jewel.tanweb.com) =) Kiss me now and take me down, my love Open up the tender flower of love Like a bird, you'll feel my heart inside Beating with the rhythm of the tide I'll raise my mouth just like a glass, you'll drink Tangerine lips and water deep Rising up, I feel that ancient song Playing to the rhythm of the dawn Oh, I feel what you're saying When words aren't in the way In the darkness I can feel you When shadows play Strange how now I'm jealous of the day As the dawn carries you away But when nighttime spreads it's starry wings For you alone I sing Oh I feel, oh I feel what you're saying When words aren't in the way In the darkness I can feel you When shadows play When shadows play scott.evans [[crazy is just YOU and ME. AMPLIFIED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . . . . . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [http://jewel.tanweb.com] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:23:13 -0700 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC Coldplay - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowley" To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:03 AM Subject: [EDA] NJC Coldplay > Wow your only just finding Coldplay?!?! I've been listening to them for a > year, finally something to love England for! You had to wait this long to find something to love England for? What about PJ Harvey? On this note; everyone go listen to some PJ Harvey as well! That girl has an amazing voice! =o) ~ Sandy ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #157 ***************************