From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #151 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, April 19 2001 Volume 06 : Number 151 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] RE: Article [Lara Horn ] [EDA] RE: Article [Lara Horn ] Re: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD [Paul Schreiber ] Re: [EDA] In the eyes of Jewel's family ["cymbaline" ] Re: [EDA] interesting [BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com] [EDA] Upenn off the Beat ["Robby Van Sciver" ] Re: [EDA] Jewels true rotten self [EastAngelEDA@aol.com] Re: [EDA]What makes a goddess [BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Re: Jewel on P.I last night [PittsLebo@aol.com] [EDA] RE:Jewel's true rotten self... [JewelKGirl@aol.com] [EDA] Jewel reheasal pics [JewelKGirl@aol.com] [EDA] That article [Jennyms@aol.com] [EDA] Family Response to CDTD [Christy ] Re: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD [BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com] [EDA] [NJC]A sad loss. [BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:22:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara Horn Subject: [EDA] RE: Article Man, did that article make me mad. Who's to say whether or not someone is capable of writing? And what makes Jewel's aunts anymore truthful or unbiased than Jewel? I really hate it when people assume things based on half truths, and ignore the whole story. Its Jewel's book. She can write what she wants in it. She could say her aunts are pinheads... Its not fair to pick on her life writings. Its how SHE feels about the situation. Not an unbiased, boring, scientific fact sheet! I think there may be too much jealousy in her outer family. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara Horn Subject: [EDA] RE: Article Man, did that article make me mad. Who's to say whether or not someone is capable of writing? And what makes Jewel's aunts anymore truthful or unbiased than Jewel? I really hate it when people assume things based on half truths, and ignore the whole story. Its Jewel's book. She can write what she wants in it. She could say her aunts are pinheads... Its not fair to pick on her life writings. Its how SHE feels about the situation. Not an unbiased, boring, scientific fact sheet! I think there may be too much jealousy in her outer family. Lara (the beach angel) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:58:48 -0400 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: Re: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD *sigh* Someone posted this article /months/ ago. we're just rehashing all the same old points. please save yourself the time: http://www.smoe.org/lists/jewel/ thanks much. Paul shad 96c / 4B CS / mac activist / eda / fumbler fan of / jewel / sophie b. / sarah slean / steve poltz / emm gryner / / x-files / buffy / dawson's creek / habs / bills / 49ers / t h i n k d i f f e r e n t. "Don't let the seeds stop you from enjoying the watermelon." -- Robin Williams ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:23:33 EDT From: Lseids@aol.com Subject: [EDA] In the eyes of Jewel's family I can barely get through this article. It is making me so mad! I know that I am a biased reader because I am a huge suporter of Jewel, but I think we all need to take this article with a grain of salt. I mean, I can not say Jewel is perfect, let's hopes she's not, or she wouldn't be human... but also I truly feel as if one person's point of view on her own childhood is a singular experience. What Jewel remembers and felt growing up may be different from how her family felt or what they remember. Her truth may not be someone else's truth, but it makes neither one wrong. And a book can only cover so much ground... she can't tell the entire story of everyone in her life... I think this article is biased. I gotta go! Thanks for reading... Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:36:20 -0400 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] interesting I'd support her, not because "jewel can do no wrong", but because jewel is human and has flaws and faults just like the rest of us. thats why i love her. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:38:53 -0400 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] In the eyes of Jewel's family I think the family has every right to say what they want to say. It doesn't make me mad at all to read it. If they want to be mad, then I say, get naked and hop in the mud! :) (anyone wanna mud wrestle??) cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:57:03 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: [EDA] jewel photos I like the pictures of Jewel looking serious in the latest web pages shots. I don't see why she should be smiling every minute. She looks thoughtful, pensive, maybe a little sad...and why not? She could be premenstrual (well, at least I am, maybe I'm projecting...) or she could be just plain...moody like a normal person. And they seem like natural shots, not just posed for the camera with smiles. I like that. It's like a little glimpse into the Jewel world...which is not always happy sappy smiley.... AE _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:09:32 EDT From: BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] interesting Like they said in Rolling Stone, its her imperfections that make her so perfect. Perhaps Mossy wanted recognition, yet as I am certain that was not the only name she chose to omit or change, I still believe it was good intentions. Doubtless there are some in the book who would not want their names stated. For instance, The autograph hounds or the man who offered her money in Colorado. I say, if Mossy wanted to state what she felt was inadequacies, she should have written her own book, then declared it to boost the book, and donate the profits for study on schizophrenia. That would best be towards the intent Jewel aims for. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:25:9 -0400 From: "Robby Van Sciver" Subject: [EDA] Upenn off the Beat Hey, thought this might have some value here. :-) General idea: search for "Foolish Games" sung by Upenn Off the Beat (an a capella group) on your media search engine of choice. Story: I was visiting a friend at my future school (UVA) and was blown away by the networking that I will have access to in the future. Anyway, I saw Foolish Games sung by Upenn Off the Beat, and making assumptions, they appear to be an a capella group based at the University of Pennsylvania. But don't hold me accountable for how correct this is. ;-) Anyway, I recommend downloading this, it's awesome. All parts of the song are sung (hence the term a capella), and it sounds great. The lead singer even resembles Jewel. Anyway, just thought I'd pass this tidbit on to ya's. :-) - --- Robby Van Sciver - --- robuva@earthlink.net - --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:28:23 EDT From: EastAngelEDA@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewels true rotten self Just my two cents...wasn't this article posted around the time CDTD was released? I just had a sense of dejavu when I read it. And I think we all came to the conclusion that this family member was angry and may have a reason to be angry but that we don't know Jewel all that well personally nor do we know her family personally so we can't draw conclusions about who is a bad guy. Besides, opinions are opinions, they are neither right nor wrong. Not trying to start a fight, and if you feel you need to argue with me, save the list the frustration and email me privately. Thanks Gina EastAngel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:08:56 EDT From: BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA]What makes a goddess The selfless nature makes the goddess, and she has well shown her selflessness. As to her changing the names, perhaps she did that, not by shame but concern. Perhaps she did not want to declare all out because she feared her family would have unwanted national exposure. Do not the rest of the family prefer for the most part the off light from the spot? Granted she may have left some things out, or overcompensated perceptions, yet considering she did have many things that troubled her, unsurprising. Sternness in a childs eye may seem frightening indeed. She has spoken of Yule's greatness, and happy times OH(On Homestead) throughout her career, thought naturally mingled with the awkwardness she felt. One book does not make the full merit of any well loved author. Let the full scope of who she is be shown before you spit cynicism, please. Perhaps in the future, present the article with some impartiality. Gather all the words before judging so, the goddess is of many. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:25:52 EDT From: PittsLebo@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: Jewel on P.I last night In a message dated 4/18/01 5:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vonjoustein00@hotmail.com writes: > It was typical of that lame show...4 against 1, one common > sense conservative vs. extreme lefty masquerading as an Independant (Bill > Maher) and 3 Hollywood (sorry Jewel) misguided bleeding hearts. Jewel didn't > really speak all that much, but when she did she seemed to say that she > believed government was the be-all, end-all cure for people in this country. > ::standing up and applauding:: Not only was your assessment of PI absolutely on the mark, but I agree with everything else you said.. God Bless. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:57:21 EDT From: JewelKGirl@aol.com Subject: [EDA] RE:Jewel's true rotten self... Well, I never thought that Alaska was hell and I never got that vibe from her writings... - ---Allena ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:59:21 EDT From: JewelKGirl@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel reheasal pics Hey- I saw the new pics on the website and I noticed what she was wearing when she was rehearsing!!! Platforms and a leather skirt, I think.... Man, IF I had to make a record .... taking long hours of the day and nite, I would be wearing some Birkenstocks and sweatpants... along with a cotton tank top!!! Damn... that girl....!!! - ---Allena ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:18:03 EDT From: Jennyms@aol.com Subject: [EDA] That article As many of you said, Jewel is not perfect. And we should not consider her to be so. She is human, and I am sure she faces pressures from publishers and music producers that we could never imagine. She may have been "asked" to play up the "poor Alaskan" thing for the book. Publishers are out to sell books, and who knows what was cut and left in for us to read. We just need to keep an open mind and be realistic when it comes to these things. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:19:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Christy Subject: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD I think it is excruiciatingly funny how a lot of people are "turning" on Jewel over this article. Jewel poured her heart and soul (and a few falsities) out in this book. Maybe she changed the names of her aunt and cousin to semi-respect their wishes of not being written about, maybe she did it out of embarrassment for her family... Regardless the reason, WE DON'T KNOW!!! How many people on this list have ever met Jewel one on one?? As far what her aunts and uncles feel about other things, maybe they are right. Her writings about her youth, came from her thoughts about her youth. If she thought that her grandfather was abusive, who are her aunties and uncles to say she is wrong?? In her mind it is true. Same with her father, cousin, etc... Every thought that every one of us has is relative to our environment.... And if at the time she wrote some of those journal entries she gravitated towards the negative, well that was her perspective at that time. Turns out that we EDA's are just as fickle as everyone else. Find out that Jewel, a homo-sapien by the way, is actually human!! God forbid!!!!!!!!! She is allowed her idiosyncracies just like we all have ours. Now that something not quite the truth comes out, our fangs and claws do too?? What are the EDA's doing about this article but gravitating to the negative?? I'm not condoning or looking down upon what Jewel did. I don't feel it's my place. But just because you read once article, shouldn't you at least ask why your whole outlook on the person is changing?? Why do you automatically believe Mossy over Jewel? Do you know her any better? It all depends on perspective, so in essence they are both right. I guess I'm done venting now. It just kind of annoyed me that a lot of people when from "Oh, Jewel is great" to "Damn, Jewel is the devil." I'm very sure that Jewel has a dark side. Maybe that has shown here, but all that it does show is that she is human. Thanks for reading my rantings if you've gotten this far. Christy the Froggie Angel 8)~~~* ===== "Lend your voices only to sounds of freedom." -- Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:27:37 EDT From: BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD Doubtless since the possibility exists, the reasons mingle. She does what she does in honesty, and as it is an honesty of passion, people inspired by the passions of her will be likely to be very extremist in emotions. The ethereal beauty she has always held, is of what is called polygamous worship. This is shown in how she believed and clicked so well with Jacque, for it means she believed in many spirits. This touches on the divine acceptance by words gathering the spirit, such as Jacqueline's Volcano metaphor. This is why she is loved so, realizing the divine. We tend to overcompensate by the generalizing of any statement as marking on the whole, because she has the big screen TV Larger than life, though not the movie cineplex. Her Earthly body is a symbol of the human, yes, and yet the inspirations of what purity she has recognized, as well as what natural beauty she mingles with the way we are inspired to greater platitudes of living situations, in simplicity, becomes balanced. In short, She struggles, as a stone thrown in a Japanese stone garden, rippling outward and gathering grains, and so her health falls now by sacrifice, raises by the love we give to her, the stability. Because she knows love well, she deserves what loving messages she gives, even if it darkens by the disparities of flesh. -Be the difference. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:09:23 EDT From: BuilderwalksUSA@aol.com Subject: [EDA] [NJC]A sad loss. While listening to my local public radio, and was visited by some tragic news. Joey Ramone, lead singer of the Ramones, died this last week of Lymphatic cancer. Long time fans might remember Jewel opened for the Ramones in the heyday of her youth. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #151 ***************************