From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #88 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, February 28 2001 Volume 06 : Number 088 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Jewel and Steve Poltz [eva feld ] [EDA] RWTD - Great! ["cymbaline" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel and Steve Poltz ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] First Jewel Experience [Christy Crace ] Re: [EDA] Jewel Website!!! [=?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= ] Re: [EDA] NJC: Eminem ["Sandy" ] Re: [EDA] compare Jewel to Eminem [Fabsurfgrl@aol.com] [EDA] Re: rap in general [Sokooletc@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:31:58 -0800 (PST) From: eva feld Subject: [EDA] Jewel and Steve Poltz Okay, I love Jewel and Ty together, I know she loves her cowboy and he loves her and I don't want them to break up, so don't yell at me for saying this, but if she weren't with Ty, I would want Steve and Jewel together again. They seem so close and to care about each other a lot, and it just seems fitting to me. My sister is convinced that he is still in love with her. I'm not so sure, but I can see where she gets that from. He's in her band when he could be having a solo career (I know he has a CD, but he doesn't tour on his own, does he?) He's an experienced, accomplished musician who has chosen to open for somebody else instead of headlining. Maybe this has nothing to do with Jewel, maybe it does. Maybe he isn't popular enough to headline, but maybe he could. When I was at her concert a couple of years ago (the best night of my life), Steve was opening and he kept talking about "the lovely, beautiful and talented Jewel" and spoke about her with such admiration and caring. When she eventually came out after TWO HOURS OF OPENERS (longest two hours of my life), I saw the way he looked at her and it just looked like he absolutely adored her. Maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part. I mean, if I were onstage with Jewel, when I was done having an emotional breakdown and crying or whatever, I would look at her adoringly too, but when my mom, a wise old woman, saw these looks, she was convinced that he still loved her. (My sister said if she ever met Jewel she would sit down and latch onto her leg and never let go like some annoying toddler.) I know all this sounds hokey and probably isn't true, but I am a helpless romantic (I only watch the X-Files for the practically non-existent, present but not demonstrated romance with Mulder and Scully), and I think about things like this. I'm sorry this is so long. I'm home sick and I have a fever and I think it's affecting my brain. What's your opinion on Steve and Jewel? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:48:54 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] RWTD - Great! Hey, so I saw RWTD, and I must say it was a great movie! and I'm not saying that because Jewel was in it. I would have seen it even if someone else played Sue Lee. Ang Lee is a great director, and I really love how RWTD came out. I'm definately going to see it again, and I'm also definitely going to see Ang Lee's new film "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" So, I highly suggest this movie to anyone who likes historical dramas.... But if your just the type of person who only wants to see it, just because Jewel is in it, and don't really appreciate movies like Dances With Wolves, Brave Heart, and such other historical themed dramas, you probably won't like it. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:52:51 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel and Steve Poltz yes, i think steve and jewel would be a great couple.... is he still with anya marina? and yes, steve does tour on his own.... he'll go to various bars/clubs around the country on occassion and perform, but he mostly does his own shows in san diego, where he is most well known. He is doing a few shows in Europe in march. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:02:47 -0800 (PST) From: Christy Crace Subject: [EDA] First Jewel Experience Our high school received an entertainment/current events magazine. When I was a junior or senior (I graduated in 1996), there was a small article on this girl named Jewel. It told about how she had been homeless and lived in her van, but how she was making her dreams come true with this album "Pieces of You." From the moment I read that article, I desperately wanted to know more about this girl. From the radio I heard the songs "Who Will Save Your Soul?" and "YWMFM." When I went to college, I made a friend who was (is) obsessed with Jewel. He convinced me to go to a concert (in another state) with him and another friend. Since that concert, "I have been, shall we say, rather obsessive, in a good non-stalker way." It was one of my favorite concerts, but in a different way from Aerosmith, Smashing Pumpkins, and Metallica... Very personal and spiritual (for lack of a better word). Christy ===== "Lend your voices only to sounds of freedom." -- Jewel Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:43:15 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel Website!!! Michelle said: <Hotel Angel !!!!!>> Thanks Michelle, I'm glad you liked it. Actually, for you and anyone else interested, the URL is: http://members.nbci.com/hotelangeljk/Main.html Thanks, Mirko ===== Hotel Angel- http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/hotelangeljk/Main.html Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:42:47 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: [EDA] First Jewel Experience / Little Things I Love About Jewel Hi, These topics seem more interesting. My first Jewel experience was in 1997, when I was 13. There was a program in MTV Latin America, called Top 10 US, and I always saw it because I loved it. And so Jewel was #4, with her Foolish Games video. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED the song... I fell in LOVE with her, the video, but mostly the song. I always loved slow music, and this SONG was absolutely AMAZING for me. I was like WOW! I had never heard something like that before. Something so filled with emotion. So anyway... I just loved Foolish Games, but I didn't know who the artist really was. I saw her appearance in the 1997 MTV Video Music Awards and I was so excited that she won Favourite Female Video for YWMFM, although I hadn't heard the song before, but I knew she was the singer of Foolish Games. I couldn't be called a fan then, and I wanted to kill her when she said "I was supposed to sing Foolish Games tonight, but I'm going to sing a song about..." blah blah and she goes to sing Angel Standing By. The song finished and I couldn't believe what had happened. I remember the VJ said "What a great voice that girl has" and I was like "Exactly". And then I didn't wanted to kill her 'cause I thought what a great thing to spontaneously change the song you were supposed to sing, and being honest enough to tell everyvody you changed it and not worry about promotion :) So I bought me the CD for Christmas, the 26th of December 1997. That's it. Now... LITTLE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT JEWEL. - - When she smiles while singing, but not evenly, lifting one side of her lips more than the other... I JUST LOVE IT!!! - - I love how she made fun of herself and put this little cute, embarassed yet, funny face when she sang Silent Night in Jay Leno December 13th 2000 when speaking about peeing in Alaska. - - I also love when she finishes a song in shows like Jay Leno, Conan O' Brien, etc, and the guy comes to give her his hand and she gives it to him shily and lifts one shoulder, lowers her head and smiles shily, wondering if people liked the song and feeling embarassed by the applause and not knowing what to do next. - - When she raises her leg during a song. - - When she lifts her eyes to one side while singing. - - When she has a small portion of her hair in her face, but she can't move it back because she's singing and playing guitar, like in Sometimes It Be That Way in Hard Rock Live. - - When she doesn't know what to do with her hands. - - The shape of her lips, and the middle depression in them. - - How she kind of shuts just a little bit her eyes, and gives this sensual/melancholic kind of sad look, like when she sings the last "You were always crazy like that" in the Foolish Games video. - - ALL of her performance of Foolish Games in the MTV Movie Awards of 1998, she sings it so amazingly and the looks in her eyes are filled with such passion. Well, I think that could be it. Take care, Mirko ===== Hotel Angel- http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/hotelangeljk/Main.html Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:42:20 EST From: Fabsurfgrl@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel and Steve Poltz They've been together before. It's an on-going thing...off and on for years now. Perhaps they'll eventually end up together... Mandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:44:39 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: [EDA] Jewel's YWMFM at MTV Top 5 Interactivo Hi! I'm so excited and I wanted to share my excitement. Yesterday I saw the YWMFM video and I taped it! :) It was passed in MTV Latin America in a show called 'Top 5 Interactivo' (Interactive Top 5), it's like your TRL, but I think that better because it's not full of pop. There are like different categories you can vote for and yesterday was Top 5 Female Artists of 1996. There are new categories each day, and 2 per day. The ranking was: 5. Jewel- You Were Meant For Me 4. Sheryl Crow- If It Makes You Happy 3. Cranberries- Salvation 2. Garbage- Stupid Girl 1. No Doubt- Don't Speak Not bad for being South America, as Jewel is relatively unknown here, and considering I didn't vote cause I find out too late... he he. I wonder who voted and where are they... where are you damn it?!?!?! Take care, Mirko Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:37:27 -0500 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] Eminem Steve, I think you overanalyze the situation by trying to rationalize this punk. Alice Cooper was the king of 'shock value", but at least his music was good. I don't hear a lot of music in what Eminem does, just a lot of loud , obnoxious rhyming. I guess that is what passes for music these days .Never really paid a lot of attention to lyrics when listening to music, being a musician I was always concentrating on the musicality of each instrument, vocals were just background noise. Kids today must focus in on the words, but however they are able to distinguish what is being said is beyond me. Has any body here ever heard of Geoff Tate or Rob Halford? If you want to hear great vocalists with obvious range and talent look no further, Eminem (how idiotic-he names himself after a brand of candy, then intentionally mispells it, what innovation!) isn't a pimple of their buttcheeks! A little self-policing wouldn't hurt if you want to talk freedom of sppech. Can we yell "fire" in a crowded theater or is it illegal? There isn't total freedom of speech this country, just see what happens in politics when someone says "affirmative" action should be tossed into the ash heap of history. The thought police come down on you so fast it would make your head swim. Many people have lost jobs, and have careers ruined for simply speaking their mind. We are naive to think there is no cause and effect for unpopular speech. JOE _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:55:01 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Eminem I don't really feel like getting into this Eminem rocks/sucks debate, but I just had a comment for Joe: > Eminem > (how idiotic-he names himself after a brand of candy, then intentionally > mispells it, what innovation!) He didn't name himself after a brand of candy and then mispell it. His name is Marshall Mathers... MM...and voila...Eminem... regardless of how you feel about him, I'd say that was rather "nifty", considering a lot of stupid names bands are coming up with nowadays :) One of the only things that drives me bonkers more is when they name a song to intentionally have nothing to do with what the song is about...*grrr* :) ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:31 EST From: Fabsurfgrl@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] compare Jewel to Eminem Since when do musicians have a responsibility to the public to provide a positive moral value? Many would think Jewel "rot" as well. If you don't like the music - don't buy it. Don't watch it. Neither Eminem or Jewel are required to offer a positive moral value to society through their music. You seem to be missing that very point. Again, what is trash to you is music to others. Some of his songs will hopefully, one day, be representative of a time past where racism, terror, anger and the need for other races to express their anger through this type of hate-music. THAT is the value...much like an angry clad poem out of history that details violence by a government agency, or a terrorists. You're arguments are the same that parents in the 50's had against Elvis...if you really think about it. Mandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:35:39 EST From: Sokooletc@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: rap in general I can't believe that someone that is a fan of Jewel and an EDA can be so close minded and make such a stereotypical statement that ALL rap music is violent and bad for kids. I love all types of music because I gave every kind at least a chance and made my own judgements on the artist, not the whole music genre. That's unfair to label. If I don't like it, I don't listen. Here's something to think about. If you have kids, would you want them to listen to "God's Gift To Women". As a Jewel fan you know what she's trying to say and that she's not telling guys to literally grab her tits but how embarassed would you feel if your child came into his/her first grade class singing "Yes I have got nice tits, they are the perfect grab me size"? Have you ever really listened to different artists that "happen" to be rappers, instead of assuming all rap sucks. There is a rapper named "Common" who clearly says in one of his tracks "Teaching the babies to love, and to give love". Is that violent and hateful? He dedicated the whole song to his children and how he's proud of them. An artist like Common gets overlooked because people make statements that are so stereotypical, when, as Jewel fans, would be hypocritical since Jewel makes similar songs. It's the people that protest it so much that make the artists stronger and richer. With all the new attention they receive people will buy the CD so they can trash it. Meanwhile, "They bought the CD". Also, half the kids wouldn't even know what the CD was until a protester makes such a big deal. Believe it or not, and from past top selling albums, negativity sells. Remember 2 Live Crew. That music sucked and would have fizzled out but because there was so much attention people bought the album to find out what the big deal is. Regardless of what they did afterwards, they bought the album. The best way to protest is to not listen and not give notority. The CD wouldn't be as "Cool" if you're parents listened to it, most kids think, I know I did when I was a kid. So to rebel people buy the CD's, regardless of what kind of music it is. How do you think Howard Stern became so famous? First ask yourself what kind of neighborhood you live in? Take a look around and make a realization about where you live. Then listen to some of these songs that you consider "violent and hateful". If you grew up in some of their neighborhoods you would know at least what they were talking about and why they're saying certain things. I can't speak for all artists because some rappers "do" rap about violence to sell more albums, but not all. Even the rappers that do rap about violence are misunderstood because we listen to the lyrics too literally and not the same way we listen to "God's Gift To Women" or "Race Car Driver". If the first song you ever heard from Jewel was "Race Car Driver", in all honesty, wouldn't you think that she was a horny lesbian that liked cars? But because we know Jewel and we realize the way she's singing the song it's through the eyes of a man. Does Jewel really want to be a "Rocker Girl"?. Do yourself, or yourselves, a favor and listen to the music in the spirit it's supposed to be taken. Try not to be judgemental and just "Listen" don't assume. Keith "Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there, with open arms and open eyes" - Incubus "Drive" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC-rap in general Ok i have to say something about this whole rap music thing...Someone please tell me how rap music is good for a child to listen to...and even a teenager? over about 75% of rap music represents violence, drugs, and sex! Listening to some of this rap crap can really put some things into people's minds...especially children! I don't see how this kind of music and lyrics can help kids and teach them about the real world! I mean i know that the world isn't a great place...but, wil letting people listen to this kinda music help the world get any better...the only way the world can get better is if people do something about it...not just talk and sing about it... Now i see a huge difference between some rap music and jewel's music...like in life uncommon...jewel gives off a meaning in the lines..." there are plenty of people who pray for peace, but f praying were enough it would have come to be, let you words enslave no one and the heavens who hush themselves t hear our voices ring out clear with sounds of freedom"...i want some of you to think about these lyrics and compare them to some of the rap music lyrics and tell me which is better to do, or listen to, or for children to listen too!?!?!?!?! ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #88 **************************