From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #84 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, February 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 084 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] Dido on Jewel [Clm4ever1248@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NJC-rap in general [Clm4ever1248@aol.com] [EDA] is jewel having trouble finding a producer? [Minnie822@aol.com] [EDA] big blue [Minnie822@aol.com] Re: [EDA] is jewel having trouble finding a producer? ["Scott Evans" ] Re: [EDA] LittleJC: Eminem [HMN333@aol.com] [EDA] obessing over Jewel [Shawn E Williams ] [EDA] i hate dido [Shawn E Williams ] Re: [EDA] njc: a little song i know [Clm4ever1248@aol.com] Re: [EDA] [SAEDA] Dear Richard and Lorrie. ["cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] is jewel having trouble finding a producer? <> Of course this isn't true.. Jewel is one of the biggest recording artists in the US, having two albums at 11x and 4x platinum and a Christmas album at 1x platinum (which is great for a Christmas album).. It would be downright ignorant for someone to say that no one wants to bother on Jewel anymore.. Now it might be different to say that Jewel can't choose between producers, which would make sense, even though I don't think that's true either.. I don't think she's actually started studio work on it for a serious final project.. She's done demos, sure, but we would have heard more if she was trying to lay on final tracks.. scott.evans [[crazy is just YOU and ME. AMPLIFIED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 / YahooIM: sevans56 \ scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [http://jewel.tanweb.com] Little Plastic Pages, my site [http://tanweb.com/scott] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:16:36 -0800 (PST) From: liz lee Subject: [EDA] njc: a little song i know how does it go? I'd like to build the world a home, and furnish it with love grow apple trees and honey bees and snow-white turtle doves I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony I'd like to take it in my arms and keep it company! Anyway... that's not the whole song. But it's about peace and love. I wish we were like that again. I love Eminem. I love Juel. Couldn't we kiss and make up?? ===== ~*Liz*~ the Misplaced Angel HARMLESS & SHAMELESS PLUGS (if you can, check 'em out!) MUSIC: Motor Betty, Amanda Jones, Shannon Curfman, Joy Eden Harrison, Steve Poltz, Shakira, CoCo Lee, Faye Wong, Nancy Micciulla!, LAURA PAUSINI!! ACTORS: Haley Joel Osment, Lucas Black!! Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:18:34 EST From: HMN333@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] LittleJC: Eminem << Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:03:20 -0500 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] LittleJC: Eminem You make the mistake of saying Eminem has gone on to great things. >> What I meant by my statement, which was "just because someone may have a hard time with school, whether it be lack of book-smarts, or just a distracting environment, doesn't mean you're stupid and can't go on to do great things", was not directed toward Eminem personally. I was responding to someone who had said "Eminem's a dumb shit who failed 9th grade 3 times, now he's a genius? How low this country has sunk!" My point was/is that just because someone does bad in school, it doesn't make them a "dumb shit" with the incapacity to do anything with their life. Heather HMN333@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:36:01 -0800 From: Shawn E Williams Subject: [EDA] obessing over Jewel hi! i wouldn't say that obsessing over Jewel is bad, unless you are a stalker. i think i'm obsessive, but not in a bad way. love ya, shawney the hippie angel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:28:45 -0800 From: Shawn E Williams Subject: [EDA] i hate dido Hi guys! i don't like dido's music. her voice sounds like sarah mchlan's voice and i don't like her voice either. i also don't like dido's songs. love ya, shawney the hippie angle ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:54:29 EST From: Clm4ever1248@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] njc: a little song i know those are awesome lyrics...but, how can you talk about love peace and freedom, and still like eminem??? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:57:13 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] [SAEDA] Dear Richard and Lorrie. > can't do it... she's saying that she wouldn't be caught dead doing something > like writing poetry... that self-indulged practice. When, she contradicts > herself by singing... Song lyrics are a form of poetry... I guess it doesn't > count though, since she hasn't written any. I've heard several people comment "jewel writes her own songs, Dido doesn't, do Jewel is better than Dido"..... Where do you people get the idea that Dido doesn't write her songs? She wrote all the songs on her album! "D. Armstrong" is Dido Armstrong. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:16:52 -0500 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] [SAEDA] Dear Richard and Lorrie. What are you a corny SOUTH American, Antonio? >From: "Antonio Miquilena" >To: "Reply Digest" >Subject: [EDA] [SAEDA] Dear Richard and Lorrie. >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:24:29 -0400 > > Ok you two, let me start by saying that so far you are the most childish >people I've seen on this list, and as god is my witness [or something like >that (corny line north american people use) who knows... ] I do believe in >what I'm saying, thank you very much. > > Before diving any further I DO have to WARN, that I do not like nasty >replies, cause I will simply jump into the next topic of the Digest, again, >thank you. > > Why Am I making such a harsh comment ? Oh well, let the facts speaks for >itself. >"Jewel has so much more *heart*" (care for an explanation there Richard?) >"Jewel kicks a hell of a lot more ass than she does!" (one for this too >Lorrie) > > Comon people, this is not "Jewel Freaks Digest" nor "Jewel Obsessed People >Digest" this is simply a list for those Fans that enjoy Jewel's music, I >consider myself one of those, that when I put a record of her, I feel >released, I feel happy/depressed, I get thoughtful, I get recentful, I get >cheered, so many emotions which different songs, that for me is hard to >describe, but I won't simply tolerate people comparing like if this was >some, I dont know, stupid list to do that. THIS is to discuss Jewel, not to >discriminate or start getting stuck in topics like the past week with >EMINEM >(this goes for all of you, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, leave the poor guy alone, and >just move on with your lives, don't like him ? DON'T LISTEN TO HIM, NOONE >IS >PUTTING A F******* GUN IN YOUR HEAD !, don't want your children to listen >to >his "load of crap" as some call it, then simply do something, but don't >come >bitching here about his music or what it means to you, or how much does it >hurt you, because guess what ? THIS IS NOT WHY PEOPLE CREATED THIS) but >going back to the path of the main subject I wanted to discuss, those which >I consider stupid remarks of the before mentioned persons. > > Dido for me is one great singer, equal as Jewel, equal as Madonna, equal >as >Sarah Mclachlan, equal as Dolores O'Riordan (Cranberries). She have her own >genre, her own voice, her own way of seeing life and expressing it. We >cannot start making any remarks of a competetive nature, we cannot start >saying "Jewel sings better" or "Jewel can Yodel and Dido can't" "Jewel can >do higher tones and change drasticly into a lower one" "Jewel write her own >songs, dido doesn't" "Jewel have more records and is more popular" "Jewel >is >more cuter and with bigger tits" (not that I care, since I don't like her >for that) "Jewel is this" "Jewel is that" now I ask, annoyed already ? >Thought so. Imagine the rest of us that gets annoyed with such remarks. > > So my simple point of view, is to start enjoying jewel's music, and start >discussing things related to her, her songs, the books, we have so many >things we can discuss. I rather receive an email with everything I just >mentioned, than receiving one loaded with crap about eminem, or why dido is >such a bitch and thinks she is better than Jewel (not to my knowlegde, >since >I don't find them a copy of each other) The only similaritie that I have >found is between sarah and dido, they have a similar voice, but not equal. >and to put an end to this email, let me correct you both "Jewel DOES NOT >have more heart" and "Jewel doesn't kick any asses", Jewel is just a person >that found her devotion and is sharing it with us, same as Dido. So let's >grow up here, concentrate a little more on what this list is really about, >and let's stop making this annoying remarks that I found oh so very crappy. >So let's know the difference here between a Psico Obssesed Fan and a REAL >fan. Think about it > > P.S: I'm sure the only ass that jewel will be kicking is yours, if she >ever >read this list" > > Thank you for the time, > Antonio > The Charmed Angel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:27:10 -0500 From: "Valerie Lofaso" Subject: Re: [EDA] compare Jewel to Eminem It's rather ironic that one of my three posts ever since joining this list (almost 2 years now) has nothing to do w/ Jewel, but I can't take this rap stuff anymore so I'm coming out. What a lot of you (I haven't read many of the Eminem posts) seem to be missing, is this: Jewel's life has greatly shaped her music. Same for Marshall Mathers, a.k.a. Eminem. A lot of what he raps about either happened to him, someone he knows, and/or is happening right this second in this world. Do you really think that he's just making up trash to bother people? People witenss their mother being abused, People get abused; People see others use drugs, People use drugs; People see others get shot, People shoot other people, etc. Jewel expresses herself in her way, Eminem expresses himself in his way (I'll admit, I think he is very talented), as do all artists (painting, singing, writing, etc.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: [EDA] Response to Lorrie's Mail Hi! I don't really want to continue the argument, and I don't want to make people more angry. I know Lorrie's response was normal, in defense to what Antonio said. But that's not a reason why you should write nastily to him. The power of communication is not to fall as low as the people who bother you, but to show that, if really their bothers do not affect you as they are not true, don't be angry by them and answer politely. Anyway, your response was a typical self-centered response from a person from the USA (not that everyone is that way, but stereotypes are everywhere, accept it, not that I believe in them... BUT they say people from Peru are responsible for Cocaine production and so they are drug dealers... THAT'S SO UNTRUE. Just because we, PERU, produce the Leaf of Coca- from where you produce cocaine- it doesn't mean its our fault. The Leaf of Coca is used for medical purposes here, it is when countries from North America and Europe that import it from here, that they mix it with chemical substances and give it that fatal use). Do you really think that outside the USA everyone speaks English? Do you really expect people who learn English as a second or third language to speak it as good as you (a native speaker)? You really shouldn't be remarking people's faults, errors are just a part of being human. <<"So let's know the difference here between a Psico Obsessed Fan and a REAL fan. Think about it" Pieces??? Pickle?? Pesco?? Sick-o??? OOOHHH!!!! you mean Psycho!!!! Congratulations to Antonio! he passed third grade spelling by getting the first letter of the word Psycho correct!!! woohoo!>> Antonio is from Venezuela (by the way, that is in South America), and I'm sure his first language is Spanish. How many languages do you speak? Can you speak Spanish as well as he speaks English? By the way, many people here in Peru, in third grade, are learning Spanish, English, and either German, French or Italian... at the same time and you often confuse one language with another (at least that happens to me with my first language Spanish, my second language English and my third language French) so try being a little bit comprehensive. Lets see if you understand this: Estoy harto de la gente que se pasa insultando el ingles de fans de Jewel fuera de los Estados Unidos, he visto varios hacia Michiel y ahora hacia Antonio. Tiene que parar ya, no solo esa clase de insultos, sino los insultos en general. Sean tolerantes, como Jewel nos dice, y acepten a la diferente clase de gente que existe en el mundo, sus diferentes opiniones, culturas y puntos de vista. Si no concuerdan con ellos, respondanles educadamente, como la gente civilizada que somos. For those of you who didn't understand: I'm tired of people insilting the English of Jewel fans from outside the United States, I've seen several towards Michiel and now towards Antonio. This has to stop now, not only that kind of insults, but the insults in general. Be tolerant, just as Jewel says, and accept the different types of people that exist in the world, their different opinions, cultures and points of view. If you don't agree with them, answer them politely, as the civilized people we are. And by the way, Lorrie, I see your point on defending yourself, but just be tolerant. Just because you feel insulted, it doesn't mean you have to insult back. Sorry, but I have to say something. "In the end only kindness matters" Mirko *angel from PERU: THE #1 Coca Leaf Producer Country in the '90s* Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #84 **************************