From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #83 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, February 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 083 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] NJC ["Joe Kunis" ] [EDA] JEWEL ["Kristie Biggs" ] [EDA] NJC: :-) ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] Hey everyone... Here's my "Re-Intro" :) ["Jason Keis - DRulz" ] Re: [EDA] [SAEDA] Dear Richard and Lorrie. ["Lorrie Stewart" ] [EDA] news for the jewelfans around the world ["michiel" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC We need to teach kids important things...Eminem's lyrics do not fit into that catagory!!!!! What a schmuck this creep is! Hiding behind the 1st Amendment like that...anybody that can rationalize him and his "lyrics" that a retard could write will defend anything! Probably even the "Great Stainmaker", Bill Clinton! JOE >From: RockerGrl34@aol.com >To: jewel@smoe.org, angela.matheson@ns.sympatico.ca >Subject: [EDA] NJC >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:02:58 EST > ><<<his >lyrics at face value without pondering the possibility that he doesn't >really >act out what he says. >>> > > but don't you think kids who are too young to understand what exactly >"face value" means are being affected? i certainly do. thats why we need >to >find another way to teach them about reality. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:03:38 -0600 From: "Kristie Biggs" Subject: [EDA] JEWEL Anyone feel like talking about JEWEL or HER work? Maybe we can analyze a song or something. I'm open to suggestions! How about electric fan? Thoughts? Comments? Anything? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:38:28 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] NJC: :-) Well if nothing else, we've at least concluded once again that sex and violence do spark quite an interest, and never fail to yield active debates on here. It's nothing new. Phases, cycles, call it what you will. A year from now, 2 years, this same type of conversation will once again surface, it has before, and will again. The bottom line is that everyone is different, there will always be conflicts, differences of opinion, etc. So just accept it. Afterall, if we were all the same, this would be a very boring world to live in. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:35:45 -0500 From: "Jason Keis - DRulz" Subject: [EDA] Hey everyone... Here's my "Re-Intro" :) Hey edas... I haven't posted a msg on here in a while, and now that I finally have time (graduated from college, getting into the groove of things), I figured I'd say hi to everyone and re-introduce myself and perhaps reacquaint myself with those who remember me, if any lol. My name is Jason Keis, 22 year old, and from Queens, NYC. I've been a fan ever since I bought Pieces of You at a local discount music outlet for $8.99 lol. Since then, I've seen her in concert at Jones Beach, been to her Night Without Armor reading at the Virgin Record store in the city, and also to the taping of VH1 Storytellers :) Any other events coming up? :P Unfortunately I missed her last appearance here in NYC. :(( Anyway, I play drums in a metal band and all of my friends (hard core metalheads) tease me around for being a Jewel fan.. lol, well, I don't give a damn about what they think :) Hey, any angelfood traders here? Just wondering... I have to get back to work... so, to all who remember me, hi! To those who don't.. umm.. hi! :) Hope all is well with everyone on this list. Take care, Jason Keis "The Heavy Metal Angel" - at least that's what I think I was called... ICQ: 800509 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:03:20 -0500 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] LittleJC: Eminem You make the mistake of saying Eminem has gone on to great things. What are they exactly? Shouting filthy, obscene rhymes into a microphone? Think about what the term "genius" means and apply it to this clown-the bar is not met, unless one's opinion of the term is very low. He is a great example of why the "nuclear" family is optimum. Mom and dad, 2.8 kids...look at his background, no wonder he's so fucked up! I wish people would stop referring to this crap as "music", music is played by musicians who actually PLAY INSTRUMENTS. JOE >From: HMN333@aol.com >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] LittleJC: Eminem >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:02:06 EST > >Hi all, ><< Eminem's a dumb shit who failed 9th grade 3 times, now he's a genius? >How > low this country has sunk! >> > >I just had to point out that just because someone may have a hard time with >school, whether it be lack of book-smarts, or just a distracting >environment, >doesn't mean you're stupid and can't go on to do great things. Personally, >I >plan on buying Eminem's CD when my poor-unemployed-college-student-self >gets >some $$.. I don't necessarily condone things that he says but the way I see >it, that's my thing. Throughout high school I was picked on for liking >Jewel, >because let's just say my friends didn't like listening to someone sing >about >how they wanted to "swallow the moon" :) They had their own music that >expressed things they wanted to hear, with messages all of their own. As we >have said a million times with Jewel's songs, music's meaning can be >interpreted in many different ways. It's all in the ear of the beholder.. >Ok, >that was cheesy :) But what I mean is, I wouldn't approve of my little >brother listening to Eminem's music, because he's not at an age where he >can >make sense of it. He's still young and innocent :) If someone's going to >do >something violently horrible after listening to his CD, then I think we >would >all agree that there was something wrong with them BEFORE they heard his >music. More attention should be placed on helping those in need, those who >have no one to help them with their problems... >Just my opinion, >Heather >HMN333@aol.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:03:50 -0500 From: "Lorrie Stewart" Subject: Re: [EDA] [SAEDA] Dear Richard and Lorrie. As God as my witness... I do believe what I'm saying... haha, I'm sorry, I REALLY had to reply to this one... because I'm so childish and all... and part of the "jewel obsessed people list" or whatever. I'd like to state a couple of things... 1) I said that jewel "kicks a hell of a lot more ass" than Dido does because the comment that Dido stated, was very much *in my opinion* against Jewel, and judgmental to Jewel. Contrary to what other people say about it, that's what it meant to me... "oh, I'd like to be shot if I ever did that" isn't saying that she can't do it... she's saying that she wouldn't be caught dead doing something like writing poetry... that self-indulged practice. When, she contradicts herself by singing... Song lyrics are a form of poetry... I guess it doesn't count though, since she hasn't written any. 2) I do everything BUT obsess over Jewel. Jewel is just a normal person, I don't think the comment that she kicks more ass is obsessive at all, it was a statement. Sure, Jewel's great- but I think you went a little overboard by calling me an obsessed fan. I was happy with 19the row seats when I went to her concert. I sat behind two large ladies who were singing at the top of their lungs, or should I say moaning... I think if I were an obsessed fan, I would have hit them over the top of the head with my camera to get them to shut up... but I didn't. but who cares about me and my little childish ways. Antonio says: "but don't come bitching here about his music or what it means to you, or how much does it hurt you, because guess what ? THIS IS NOT WHY PEOPLE CREATED THIS!" then goes on to contradict himself by (oh my gosh!!!) including another person other than Jewel (he's not supposed to do that!!!! *gasp!*)... "Dido for me is one great singer... She have her own genre, her own voice, her own way of seeing life and expressing it." oh... and one more contradiction to end it! "So my simple point of view, is to start enjoying jewel's music, and start discussing things related to her, her songs, the books, we have so many things we can discuss. I rather receive an email with everything I just mentioned, than receiving one loaded with crap about eminem, or dido." "Dido for me is one great singer... She have her own genre, her own voice, her own way of seeing life and expressing it." "So let's know the difference here between a Psico Obsessed Fan and a REAL fan. Think about it" Pieces??? Pickle?? Pesco?? Sick-o??? OOOHHH!!!! you mean Psycho!!!! Congratulations to Antonio! he passed third grade spelling by getting the first letter of the word Psycho correct!!! woohoo! Antonio, did I find another contradiction?? "We cannot start making any remarks of a competetive nature" "I won't simply tolerate people comparing like if this was some, I don't know, stupid list to do that" "let's know the difference here between a Psico Obssesed Fan and a REAL fan" The EDA mailing list is sooo much better than those "stupid" ones... My gosh Antonio- that wasn't nice!!!! So a REAL (stress REAL) fan is better than a "psico" obsessed fan?? I thought we weren't supposed to making competitive remarks here... tisk tisk. Thank you Antonio for pointing out my childish ways with your, oh so childish, email. I enjoyed the last comment very much. You know, for a "charmed angel" you sure have a lot of Asshole in you. To the rest of the EDA's, I apologize for badgering Antonio, but he seems to think that he's somewhat less childish than the rest of us... because he doesn't choose to discuss Eminem, or get angry at a comment Dido stated that was clearly against Jewel *in my opinion*, or hear anything other than the new news on Jewel... She brushed her hair upside down last night Antonio!!! isn't that cool. This list would be incredibly boring if the ONLY thing we discussed was Jewel. There are a lot of other issues out there. I thought that the Eda's were all people who have one thing in common- we all like Jewel. So we're all here, friends, talking about Jewel when there is some news on here, or if someone has a question about her past, and conversing about other things as well. I'm sure you guys know people, and talk to people, who are really into art, poetry, what have you... they have one thing in common with you. BUT, do you only talk to them about that one specific thing? No, because it would be boring, it would get old... and really, a waste of time. I'm not calling this list a waste of time... because it isn't. I'm not sure where the idea that we're ONLY supposed to talk about Jewel came from. But I think it's alright to talk about other things, and relate Jewel to other things. Am I alone here? do I have the right idea about this list?? What does everyone else think?? Help me out someone. Well Richard, I'm through having my childish tantrum against Antonio, how about you? Lorrie The *sarcastic at times* angel - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Antonio Miquilena" To: "Reply Digest" Subject: [EDA] [SAEDA] Dear Richard and Lorrie. Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:24:29 -0400 Ok you two, let me start by saying that so far you are the most childish people I've seen on this list, and as god is my witness [or something like that (corny line north american people use) who knows... ] I do believe in what I'm saying, thank you very much. Before diving any further I DO have to WARN, that I do not like nasty replies, cause I will simply jump into the next topic of the Digest, again, thank you. Why Am I making such a harsh comment ? Oh well, let the facts speaks for itself. "Jewel has so much more *heart*" (care for an explanation there Richard?) "Jewel kicks a hell of a lot more ass than she does!" (one for this too Lorrie) Comon people, this is not "Jewel Freaks Digest" nor "Jewel Obsessed People Digest" this is simply a list for those Fans that enjoy Jewel's music, I consider myself one of those, that when I put a record of her, I feel released, I feel happy/depressed, I get thoughtful, I get recentful, I get cheered, so many emotions which different songs, that for me is hard to describe, but I won't simply tolerate people comparing like if this was some, I dont know, stupid list to do that. THIS is to discuss Jewel, not to discriminate or start getting stuck in topics like the past week with EMINEM (this goes for all of you, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, leave the poor guy alone, and just move on with your lives, don't like him ? DON'T LISTEN TO HIM, NOONE IS PUTTING A F******* GUN IN YOUR HEAD !, don't want your children to listen to his "load of crap" as some call it, then simply do something, but don't come bitching here about his music or what it means to you, or how much does it hurt you, because guess what ? THIS IS NOT WHY PEOPLE CREATED THIS) but going back to the path of the main subject I wanted to discuss, those which I consider stupid remarks of the before mentioned persons. Dido for me is one great singer, equal as Jewel, equal as Madonna, equal as Sarah Mclachlan, equal as Dolores O'Riordan (Cranberries). She have her own genre, her own voice, her own way of seeing life and expressing it. We cannot start making any remarks of a competetive nature, we cannot start saying "Jewel sings better" or "Jewel can Yodel and Dido can't" "Jewel can do higher tones and change drasticly into a lower one" "Jewel write her own songs, dido doesn't" "Jewel have more records and is more popular" "Jewel is more cuter and with bigger tits" (not that I care, since I don't like her for that) "Jewel is this" "Jewel is that" now I ask, annoyed already ? Thought so. Imagine the rest of us that gets annoyed with such remarks. So my simple point of view, is to start enjoying jewel's music, and start discussing things related to her, her songs, the books, we have so many things we can discuss. I rather receive an email with everything I just mentioned, than receiving one loaded with crap about eminem, or why dido is such a bitch and thinks she is better than Jewel (not to my knowlegde, since I don't find them a copy of each other) The only similaritie that I have found is between sarah and dido, they have a similar voice, but not equal. and to put an end to this email, let me correct you both "Jewel DOES NOT have more heart" and "Jewel doesn't kick any asses", Jewel is just a person that found her devotion and is sharing it with us, same as Dido. So let's grow up here, concentrate a little more on what this list is really about, and let's stop making this annoying remarks that I found oh so very crappy. So let's know the difference here between a Psico Obssesed Fan and a REAL fan. Think about it P.S: I'm sure the only ass that jewel will be kicking is yours, if she ever read this list" Thank you for the time, Antonio The Charmed Angel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:07:01 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] Extra information for Friday live concert of Jewel on dutch radio hello Jewelfans, I have found out an URL where you can listen to the RADIO for the upcoming Friday interview and live concert of the Shepherd bush empire. A norwegian fan helped me found the following URL : http://portal.omroep.nl/radio2/ When you surf on friday between 21 and 23 CET to the european radio you can listen to an exclusive live concert of Jewel on the dutch radio from her 1997 Pieces of You (uk) tour.. I hope you appreciate this information bye michiel a dutch jewelfan http://www.jewelkilcher.myweb.nl jewel impala / a dutch tribute site for jewel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:08:28 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] jewel on dutch radio on friday hello Jewelfans, I have found out an URL where you can listen to the RADIO for the upcoming Friday interview and live concert of the Shepherd bush empire. A norwegian fan helped me found the following URL : http://portal.omroep.nl/radio2/ When you surf on friday between 21 and 23 CET to the european radio you can listen to an exclusive live concert of Jewel on the dutch radio from her 1997 Pieces of You (uk) tour.. I hope you appreciate this information bye michiel a dutch jewelfan http://www.jewelkilcher.myweb.nl jewel impala / a dutch tribute site for jewel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:44:28 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] news for the jewelfans around the world hello Jewelfans, I have found out an URL where you can listen to the RADIO for the upcoming Friday interview and live concert of the Shepherd bush empire. A norwegian fan helped me found the following URL : http://portal.omroep.nl/radio2/ When you surf on friday between 21 and 23 CET to the european radio you can listen to an exclusive live concert of Jewel on the dutch radio from her 1997 Pieces of You (uk) tour.. I hope you appreciate this information bye michiel a dutch jewelfan http://www.jewelkilcher.myweb.nl jewel impala / a dutch tribute site for jewel ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #83 **************************