From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #79 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, February 26 2001 Volume 06 : Number 079 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] (NJC) good artists ["Kristie Biggs" ] Re: [EDA] fake songs (incorrect titles on N*pster) [Chris Zeller ] [EDA] Dido on Jewel [JimboUK999@aol.com] [EDA] Jewel [Shawn E Williams ] Re: [EDA] angelfood trades [=?iso-8859-1?q?Angel?= ] Re: [EDA] Jewel....and Stan ["Joe Kunis" ] [EDA] eminem ["Brooke Capulet" ] Re: [EDA] angelfood trades ["Sandy" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel ["Joe Kunis" ] Re: [EDA] eminem [Clm4ever1248@aol.com] [EDA] NJC:Eminem [RockerGrl34@aol.com] Re: [EDA] eminem [angela.matheson@ns.sympatico.ca (Angela Matheson)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:44:40 -0600 From: "Kristie Biggs" Subject: [EDA] (NJC) good artists Anyone ever hear of Mary Me Jane? I think they only made one album, but all of the songs on it were great! I haven't heard anything new out of them in a while, but what they did do was fabulous! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:02:55 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Zeller Subject: Re: [EDA] fake songs (incorrect titles on N*pster) I was amazed to find a lot of incorrect titles on songs on N*pster. Artists' songs from No Doubt, Sheryl Crow, and Cilene Dion were billed as Jewel. I guess it is to be expected from the wild west of the web. Chris - --- RocketsTail@aol.com wrote: > That's not Jewel, it's Chantal Kreviazuk who is > amazing! ~eric > > "It's hard to remember > we're alive for the first time" > ~modest mouse Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:24:50 EST From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: [EDA] sylvia plath and jewel i think jewel's song "daddy" and sylvia plaths poem sound alike too. i'm a big fan of sylvia plath. the bell jar is really good =0) love megan, the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:46:49 EST From: ChrissyPf1@aol.com Subject: [EDA] angelfood trades Hi, I am waiting to hear from about eight EDA's who either owe me some cd's or some $$ for unfinished trading. I don't want to sound impatient but for most it's been at least two months since I sent stuff out to you-- you guys know who you are, I don't want to put your names on the list because you will appear to be someone that people won't want to trade with in the future-- but if I don't hear from you in a week I will do just that. Oh-- thanks to all the people that I have traded with that I have had no problems with : ) And I still love all you people who are delayed a bit-- I'm sure you are all very busy and have a good reason-- I just want to make sure that we have a fair trade. Thanks-- and sorry to anyone who is bothered by this e-mail. Love, Chrissy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) From: phkme2@excite.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel....and Stan When i hear that song Stan by Eminem, i think of Jewel. And about the gal at the concert or about my friend and her husband, and when Jewel wrote Fu@k off on the cd. So Jewel take a little time to write me!!! or i might think blueprints are too sad, and make them yellow! i like some of the messages Em has, and the beats, but i am not into all the cussing anymore so thats the turn off part for me. But he is good, and is straight forward, and is just being himself. if he dislikes gays, or his mom, or boybands, then thats good for him, but maybe not for everyone. Also someone said lets take a time out and listen to some songs.....we should all listen to: FOOLISH Games! and just relax! and not stress out about what one's PERSONAL opinion is. Neal doggy dog _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:06:03 -0800 (PST) From: kevin maguire Subject: [EDA] jewel and DIDO and other music Jewel and DIDo played in the same show case, in December. of 99. I drove from Santa Cruz to Portland, OR to see Jewel, well also i have friends in Portland and Family in Seattle. Dido was one of the first people to sing, then i think Jude (he;s good check him out!!) then Jewel, but she was sick so she only sang a couple of songs, then the BareNaked ladies Rocked the House!!! it was an event for CASA some childrends housing things or something like that. Also check out Steve Poltz at Poltz.com, and Jude, and Bloodhound Gang, and Anya Marina at MP3.com (steve poltz g/f) Also Everlast is cool, Oh any one of my fav.s is this Local band Called the Real Jimmies they are so awesome!!! they also play in this kinda Ska band called the Sneaky Creekans, and they are in the finals for the Battle of the Bands for Santa cruz http://therealjimmies.tripod.com there should be a link for the Creekans there also, and Check them out on the Nappy site =) Kevin the music angel...... _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:47:20 -0800 (PST) From: phkme2@excite.com Subject: [EDA] jewel and Stan..... When i hear that song Stan by Eminem, i think of Jewel. And about the gal at the concert or about my friend and her husband, and when Jewel wrote Fu@k off on the cd. So Jewel take a little time to write me!!! or i might think blueprints are too sad, and make them yellow! i like some of the messages Em has, and the beats, but i am not into all the cussing anymore so thats the turn off part for me. But he is good, and is straight forward, and is just being himself. if he dislikes gays, or his mom, or boybands, then thats good for him, but maybe not for everyone. Also someone said lets take a time out and listen to some songs.....we should all listen to: FOOLISH Games! and just relax! and not stress out about what one's PERSONAL opinion is. Neal doggy dog _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:22:48 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] fan club thoughts I've thought about this some more, and frankly, I think snail mail fan clubs are a thing of the past. Granted I'm sure there are some very successful ones still in existence, but with the online computer age having been here a good 8 years+ now, I think fan clubs being run through standard mail is sort of outdated. As someone said, we can get info within minutes online, why have to wait a week or more for the mail to get to us? I'm not for or against the "idea" of having this sort of fan club, but I think the timing is bad, being a bit late. (as in 5 years) I think Jewel is well enough established now where pretty much anything you would need to know about her can be found online very easily. So yes, other than a photo and magnet, I just don't see a fan club in *this* format as being able to offer much that we don't already have. And whose to say most of use don't already have the photo either? So while I'm not saying yes or no to this idea, I just think it would save Matt alot of time and hassle, and would save all the EDA's money if this were put on hold, or cancelled altogether. I don't see it as being highly successful. I could be wrong of course, but with all the doubt raised even just on this list lately, well I think that speaks for itself. So let's just enjoy what we have...which has been a really good format for the past 5 years...THIS list. :-) And if that isn't enough, there's always www.jeweljk.com Alan has been keeping the calendar very up to date...moreso than any snail mail letter could ever be. I don't think Matt is trying to scam anyone at all though, but I just don't think this is a great idea...from either side. I'm sure there are other things he can do with his time that would be much more beneficial to him as well...so everyone is happier in the end. Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:10:05 EST From: JimboUK999@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Dido on Jewel Hi, I don't think Dido was saying anything judgemental about Jewel, she was just expressing her personal opinion on artists crossing artistic barriers. Dido is British and generally British people regard Jewel's poetry self-endulgent trite. (not necessarily my opinion though). - -Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:45:30 -0800 From: Shawn E Williams Subject: [EDA] Jewel what did dido say about Jewel? ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:35:40 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Angel?= Subject: Re: [EDA] angelfood trades i don't want to cause any arguements here i just want to state a fact. But it was my belief that all angelfood trades were meant to be a non-profit system as requested by jewel so that any fan can enjoy these unreleased songs. Sorry i just wanted to put that out there. love Angel xxx ===== Please help me in the race to save tigers Sign up for FREE Now at http://bigcats.care2.com/. all it takes is one click :-) Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:51:41 -0500 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel....and Stan Eminem's a dumb shit who failed 9th grade 3 times, now he's a genius? How low this country has sunk! JOE K >From: phkme2@excite.com >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] Jewel....and Stan >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) > >When i hear that song Stan by Eminem, i think of Jewel. And about the gal >at the concert or about my friend and her husband, and when Jewel wrote >Fu@k >off on the cd. So Jewel take a little time to write me!!! or i might think >blueprints are too sad, and make them yellow! > >i like some of the messages Em has, and the beats, but i am not into all >the >cussing anymore so thats the turn off part for me. But he is good, and is >straight forward, and is just being himself. if he dislikes gays, or his >mom, or boybands, then thats good for him, but maybe not for everyone. > > >Also someone said lets take a time out and listen to some songs.....we >should all listen to: FOOLISH Games! and just relax! and not stress out >about what one's PERSONAL opinion is. > >Neal doggy dog > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Send a cool gift with your E-Card >http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:55:58 -0000 From: "Brooke Capulet" Subject: [EDA] eminem Come on. "A lot of us are angry people. Eminem exposes that fact.".... Wow, what innovation and insight! We're angry? I couldn't tell from all the REAL violence, murder, abuse, terrorism, and hate in the world. It's a good thing Eminem exploits it and supports it to make a dollar. What talent. I for one would have never been aware of that "reality" without him. Now that I think about I can't believe we overlooked 2 Live Crew for a grammy! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:12:50 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] angelfood trades > i don't want to cause any arguements here i just want > to state a fact. But it was my belief that all > angelfood trades were meant to be a non-profit system > as requested by jewel so that any fan can enjoy these > unreleased songs. Since you replied to Chrissy's post regarding angelfood trades, I'm assuming you meant since she said.... "who either owe me some cd's or some $$ for unfinished trading". ....that she was making a profit from the trades. I think I can be fairly certain when saying that I'm sure she's talking about money for a blank tape/postage, which is still a non-profit system. When some people don't have any angelfood to trade, or the other person isn't interested in what they do have, the blank tape & postage let's the interested party still get what they want by reimbursing the person who's sending the tape for their costs to do so. I've traded with Chrissy, and she's a great person to trade with, very quick :) I'm sure she's not asking for anything more than reimbursement :) ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:50:54 -0500 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel and who cares anyway? >From: Shawn E Williams >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] Jewel >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:45:30 -0800 > >what did dido say about Jewel? >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:12:32 EST From: Clm4ever1248@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] eminem Does JEWEL mailing list sound like EMINEM mailing list...gosh people i've read hardly anything in the last 3 days that is jewel related...And i thought that this was a JEWEL mailing list?...someone asnswet that question!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:31:13 EST From: RockerGrl34@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NJC:Eminem Hi ANgela and EDA's-- Yes, we should teach our children reality. But do we have to do it by saying "lock this bitch in a trunk, im gonna kill you, slit your throat, fuck faggots" No. I dont think that is how we should teach them. We should inform them of problems, people who grew up in the ghetto and have seen horrible things. Slavery, injustice, opression, racism, hate crimes, etc.. and thats what history classes do. If the history classes aren't enough you have to be a responsible parent and teach your child yourself. Eminem himself said he would NOT let HIS daughter listen to HIS music.. yet he doesn't mind any other kid listening to it. When you said "another viewpoint is that he actually means what he says" is untrue. I have seen an interview with Eminem when he said: "my lyrics aren't meant to be taken literally, they aren't true and i dont mean everything i say in my songs." So no, once again, he isnt speaking the truth. I feel like he's a really angry KID that needs help, guidance, whatever to make him feel better about himself. He thinks the money is helping but in the end it won't. He loves the attention. Dont you think any artist can speak of "what goes on" and have spoken of it, but not in such a negative way. Yes, some of Madonna's videos are offensive and when I have children I won't say "look at this, this is reality." I think Eminem could be an okay artist, he just needs to "simma down." katie *the sarcastic angel* : ) >>>>The problem with people with your viewpoint is that you take his lyrics at face value. Should we not teach our children reality? I know I wouldn't expose my younger children to Eminem, but he speaks of what really goes on, and despite what Jewel and other artists say, it's not all "love, peace and tranquility". Like you said, Eminem raps towards a certain audience and he makes money doing it. Another viewpoint is that he actually means what he says. But we all don't know him at all. He may want to kill his wife, he may not. It doesn't mean he's actually going to go out and do it. Children are exposed to Madonna with all her sexual content....remember Like a Virgin? Would you expose your children to burning crosses behind a half naked woman? Which is more offensive: that or Eminem? Many people found that to be inexcusable.<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:44:24 -0400 From: angela.matheson@ns.sympatico.ca (Angela Matheson) Subject: Re: [EDA] eminem Come on yourself. Everything is exploited for money. Get over it. No one said that you would be unaware of reality if Eminem didn't expose it. My point was that he's one of the only artists who will actually come out and tell it like it is. I have to make a correction from my last post. I made reference to the song by Madonna with burning crosses in the background "Like a Prayer". I think I may have written "Like a Virgin". oops. I'm sure many of you caught that anyway... Another thing I mentioned in my last post that I wish to correct was the fact that I said Jewel offers nothing but "Love and peace" and whatever in her songs. Of course that's not exactly true! Jewel offers gripping insight into human nature. And as my good friend Brooke made painfully clear to me, Jewel's lyrics must be obvious to everyone right? We don't really need her to tell us about reality. Therefore, she should just pack 'er in and forget about music because obviously, it has no point. It's OK not to like Eminem, but I'm willing to bet Jewel respects any artist, no matter where they came from, what genre of music, or what they had to say. Angela ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #79 **************************