From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #64 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, February 18 2001 Volume 06 : Number 064 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] cussing and why I'm upset [liz lee ] [EDA] Re: Jewel sued by former manager [Fredsteve@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel Sued By Former Manager [Mike Connell ] Re: [EDA] poem for jewel [Clm4ever1248@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Jewel Sued By Former Manager [Lee Garner ] [EDA] Jewel duets ["Brown" ] Re: [EDA] Re: OT: Guess What? ["Lorrie Stewart" ] Re: [EDA] Re: A poem for Jewel ["Brown" ] [EDA] Jewel is a Person!!! [Phkme2@excite.com] [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #62 [Phkme2@excite.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:14:07 -0800 (PST) From: liz lee Subject: [EDA] cussing and why I'm upset "I wouldn't say its *wrong*..... but it just isn't polite. Its RUDE especially when you're out in public, or even more so.... if you're working w/ the public. I work in a grocery store, and I will NOT curse in front of customers. People who do that have no class. " You're right Cymbie, you're right. I curse a lot but I know it's rude. I only curse in front of my friends because I know they don't care. I don't curse in front of my parents, even though they don't know English. See? I know the difference. I was upset No, I _AM_ upset because that nude jewel picture person sent me the pictures! I didn't check if it went to everyone, but I didn't even ask for them and I don't understand why he did (or why you did, could you explain that to me?). I'm only 14 and what if my parents happened to pass by the computer while I opened the email, unassuming that it was nude pictures of someone I respect, not lust for (the subject had no clues to what was coming, unless I didn't look hard enough)? My parents would get mad at ME because they're those types of parents, not the ones that call the police to get that guy. They'd think I'm the pervert but I'm not. He totally crossed the line, because I never asked for those stupid pictures. ===== ~*Liz*~ the Misplaced Angel HARMLESS & SHAMELESS PLUGS (if you can, check 'em out!) MUSIC: Motor Betty, Amanda Jones, Shannon Curfman, Joy Eden Harrison, Steve Poltz, Shakira, CoCo Lee, Faye Wong, Nancy Micciulla!, LAURA PAUSINI!! ACTORS: Haley Joel Osment, Lucas Black!! Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:26:29 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel sued by former manager In a message dated 2/18/01 10:04:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: > This story was from December of 1998. What was the outcome? > > ****FROM MTV ONLINE*** > Jewel is being sued by her former personal manager for wrongful termination > according to the Hollywood Reporter. The suit also accuses Jewel's mother of > > intentionally directing her daughter to terminate the contract so she could > collect the commission herself. > > The manager, Inga Vainshtein, was fired by Jewel earlier this year, who then > > almost immediately hired her mother, Lenedra (Nedra) Carroll, who had no > previous managerial experience. > > Vainshtein filed the five-count complaint in Los Angeles Superior Court on > Monday. She's looking for over $10 million in compensation. > > Jewel has been both busy and successful since the change. Her newly released > > album, "Spirit" debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 album chart last week. > > She's currently marketing books of poetry and memoirs (see "Jewel Prepares > New Book As "Spirit" Hits Record Stores"), and she makes her acting debut > next year in the Ang Lee Civil War epic, "Ride With The Devil" (formerly > known as "To Live On"). That movie is now expected out in June. i believe the case is still pending... it hasn't been resolved yet. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:49:09 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel Sued By Former Manager At 02:42 AM 2/18/01, you wrote: >This story was from December of 1998. What was the outcome? > >****FROM MTV ONLINE*** >Jewel is being sued by her former personal manager for wrongful termination >according to the Hollywood Reporter. The suit also accuses Jewel's mother of >intentionally directing her daughter to terminate the contract so she could >collect the commission herself. > >The manager, Inga Vainshtein, was fired by Jewel earlier this year, who then >almost immediately hired her mother, Lenedra (Nedra) Carroll, who had no >previous managerial experience. In all seriousness this time...I do not think it's yet been resolved. Also, an error in that MTV snippet. Jewel's mother was her co-manager all along, long before the firing. So yes, Jewel canned Inga, but Nedra was already co-mananger. They (Jewel and Nedra) have since dramatically increased the staff...they have co-managers, general managers.....all sorts of titles/positions. (not to mention the charities....Higher Ground For Humanity and the Clearwater Project) Mike * If you are new to the Jewel list and need a helping hand, * or have a burning question about Jewel and/or the list, * The Jewel/EveryDay Angels List Homepage & Guide is at: * http://www.quackquack.net/jewel * Many basic/common Jewel and list questions can be answered there :-) * * If you can't find the answer on the page have any list related * questions, please feel free to email me at ducksoup@quackquack.net * or you can IM me on either of the AOL names below: * DuckOfPrey or WhyADuck55 and/on AOL or AOL Instant Messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:21:49 -0800 (PST) From: liz lee Subject: [EDA] Re: OT: Guess What? Hey! Congratulations! Not only did you partially disrupt the flow of the bickering, but that's really wonderful to hear!! But hey, what happened to "our" other EDA baby? Olivia? How's she doing? ===== ~*Liz*~ the Misplaced Angel HARMLESS & SHAMELESS PLUGS (if you can, check 'em out!) MUSIC: Motor Betty, Amanda Jones, Shannon Curfman, Joy Eden Harrison, Steve Poltz, Shakira, CoCo Lee, Faye Wong, Nancy Micciulla!, LAURA PAUSINI!! ACTORS: Haley Joel Osment, Lucas Black!! Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:38:23 EST From: Clm4ever1248@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] poem for jewel That is a beautiful poem! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:38:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Garner Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel Sued By Former Manager Howdy Mike, and everyone else, I read the posts and all...but whatever happened to "Z", the entity they were supposedly communicating with? I wonder whether Nedra will get "Z" and Jewel together for a cross-dimensional album...it would be the first time anyone ever recorded with an entity not of this world. :) Confederate (Angel of Dixie) Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:25:10 -0600 From: "Brown" Subject: [EDA] Jewel duets What I really want is for Jewel to meet Lou Barlow and for them to write and 4-track indie-folk songs together... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:24:29 -0500 From: "Lorrie Stewart" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: OT: Guess What? - ----Original Message Follows---- From: liz lee To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] Re: OT: Guess What? Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:21:49 -0800 (PST) Hey! Congratulations! Not only did you partially disrupt the flow of the bickering, but that's really wonderful to hear!! But hey, what happened to "our" other EDA baby? Olivia? How's she doing? >>since everyone is talking about their babies/sister's babies/ babies in >>general, I didn't want my daughter to be left out! She's been a jewel fan >>since the moment I got pregnant, I know it might sound crazy, because >>she's so little... but when I sing to her "Angel Standing By", so goes >>right to sleep... she's my angel :). She was born in December by >>emergency cesarean- her umbilical cord was wrapped around her neck 3 >>times, and she almost didn't make it... she's an absolute miricle, and I >>love her to death! she weighed 6 lbs, 14 oz at birth, and now weighs >>nearly ten pounds... so she's a growing healthy baby... cute as can be... >>I added a picture so you could see for yourselves :). Just thought I >>would add to the happiness. oh, by the way, her name is Sydney. Lorrie, the lonely angel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of sydney9.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:21:21 -0600 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: A poem for Jewel I can see that on "Spirit", but haven't heard any post-Spirit recordings that I know of, I didn't know any existed. I think that with age life goes different places with different inner selves... I think that life has many possible paths and that upon those paths there are many branches... some people may build on a harsh reality right to their death-bed. I enjoy P.o.Y. for its emotional edge as well... I would give my life for Jewel to do away with the overproduced recordings with bands and start putting out more dry, lo-fi recordings of nothing but herself and her guitar... I really wish that she would get into 4-tracking and release albums that... this is a dream of mine which I regretfully don't see comming true... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Byer To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 3:02 AM Subject: [EDA] Re: A poem for Jewel > First off I think it is a beautiful poem that plays on > the sensual softness of a women and its calming > effect. This poem, to me, is very raw emotionally and > seems to capture the same feeling as some of Jewel's > earlier stuff (PoY, etc.) It begins to touch on > "poetry" (crying on paper in my mind). I dont think > Jewel seems to do that as much anymore. Possibly as > we age life becomes softer, and not as harsh but I > think we should still remind ourselves of that edge > always gleaming inside. Does anyone else see Jewel > softening the emotional edges and maybe becoming more > subtle in her music? Personally I enjoy PoY and that > period of poetry more than Spirit/Post-Spirit stuff, > but then again maybe I am still too on edge. Is there > a general perception as to the changes in her music as > time goes on? Anyway, thanks for the poem. > > Ben > Homeless Angel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > the woman's body is soft... > smooth dramatic curves... > shapes of extacy calling silently, > moist smiles labia dreams. > light passing the fine hairs > at the nape of her neck. > delicate fingers branch fragile hands > touching souls. > her eyes stare deeply > to melt all evil > with dreams of love. > so soothing... > her playful voice > flowing with self-divination > calms the voices > of knives in my brain. > wash away in mental consummation; > a cell with padded walls is > my new home... > I disipate in dreams of spirit jewels. > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:36:11 -0800 (PST) From: Phkme2@excite.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel is a Person!!! YO! Adrian! why you have to go there and mean....... you hurt my fellings. I said Cry babies, but that is a FACT. now your calling names. I am not trying to stir things up, i was just looking for INFO on a picture. Jewel is NO Saint or Angel or IDOL or someone to be worshiped!!! look what she did when a friend asked her for an autograph at a steve poltz show: The Jewel story you asked me about.... We were at the Casbah the night the Rugburns were part of a com cast. Jewel was in the audience, right up front of the stage with her rodeo riding boyfriend. Of course she went up on stage and sang quite a few numbers, with Steve and on her own. It was a pretty crazy night, as the alcohol was flowing. Robert told me (cause I couldn't see the stage that well) that at one point she was spitting towards Stinky, the drummer, and he was trying to catch it in his mouth. I'd like to think that maybe it was a drink or something. Robert had bought a couple of CDs that evening to send to a guy in New Jersey that was also a Steve Poltz/Jewel fan. After the show, he went up to the stage to get the band members to sign the CDs and he figured he'd ask Jewel to sign on too, as the guy he was sending them too really liked her. She signed it, along with the other guys, and sure enough it read, F@ck you, love Jewel. Robert was kind of pissed about it, but I certainly hope it wasn't meant in any mean spirited way. but it is still pretty disrespectful." So there is you Real life Jewel...... I think that was the night the Jewel asked Steve to sign Ty's Song, part of Love is a rose. And that song is pretty rauchny. Now things wouldnt be stired up If the FEW Babies would let people have their opinions, with out bashing them. If you dont like what i say then leave it alone, if you disagree, then state your opinion. This list would be a better place without you Tsunami/adrain You are just negitive and attacking people, and i'm sure theres a lot of fans on this list that are afraid b/c of Mean people like you....... Also where is the abusice comments (i only see yours) and where is the disrespect? Jewel wears a Rodeo WHORE shirt doesnt she? she is not a GODDESS she is a very very GIfted artis! ....and thats all i have to say about that.... forrest gump. Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:47:00 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: [EDA] trolls out to upset people Hi everyone ~ that character who's trying to upset people here smells a lot like a "troll" ~ someone who intentionally posts garbage or provocative, and/or abusive comments etc. etc. just to stir thing up; I don't believe any genuine fan of an artist, whether it be Jewel, Lena Horne, the Beatles, Pearl, Jam, Royal Trux, (pick anyone you like) would choose to post such puerile comments ~ and be disrespectul toward the artist they claim to like, or those other members of the artist's fan community. With this list's move toward un-moderated status, we're going to see trolls and clowns try and stir up controversy. But let's not play into their hands or get sucked in by such nonsense. If this anonymous poster wants to set up a mail list and talk ad nauseum on it, then, that's AOK. There's no free speech issues at stake here, it's just likely some juvenile boy, (whatever be his purported age), seeking attention and getting it from a gathering of EDAs. keep cool, cya, Adrian _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:40:17 -0800 (PST) From: Phkme2@excite.com Subject: [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #62 YO! Adrian! why you have to go there and be mean....... you hurt my fellings. I said Cry babies, but that is a FACT. now your calling names. I am not trying to stir things up, i was just looking for INFO on a picture. negitive people like you that try to oppress and Put down others are the ones stiring things up. Jewel is NO Saint or Angel or IDOL or someone to be worshiped!!! look what she did when a friend asked her for an autograph at a steve poltz show: The Jewel story you asked me about.... We were at the Casbah the night the Rugburns were part of a com cast. Jewel was in the audience, right up front of the stage with her rodeo riding boyfriend. Of course she went up on stage and sang quite a few numbers, with Steve and on her own. It was a pretty crazy night, as the alcohol was flowing. Robert told me (cause I couldn't see the stage that well) that at one point she was spitting towards Stinky, the drummer, and he was trying to catch it in his mouth. I'd like to think that maybe it was a drink or something. Robert had bought a couple of CDs that evening to send to a guy in New Jersey that was also a Steve Poltz/Jewel fan. After the show, he went up to the stage to get the band members to sign the CDs and he figured he'd ask Jewel to sign on too, as the guy he was sending them too really liked her. She signed it, along with the other guys, and sure enough it read, F@ck you, love Jewel. Robert was kind of pissed about it, but I certainly hope it wasn't meant in any mean spirited way. but it is still pretty disrespectful." So there is you Real life Jewel...... I think that was the night the Jewel asked Steve to sign Ty's Song, part of Love is a rose. And that song is pretty rauchny. Now things wouldnt be stired up If the FEW Babies would let people have their opinions, with out bashing them. If you dont like what i say then leave it alone, if you disagree, then state your opinion. This list would be a better place without you Tsunami/adrain You are just negitive and attacking people, and i'm sure theres a lot of fans on this list that are afraid b/c of Mean people like you....... Also where is the abusice comments (i only see yours) and where is the disrespect? Jewel wears a Rodeo WHORE shirt doesnt she? she is not a GODDESS she is a very very GIfted artis! ....and thats all i have to say about that.... forrest gump. Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:47:00 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: [EDA] trolls out to upset people Hi everyone ~ that character who's trying to upset people here smells a lot like a "troll" ~ someone who intentionally posts garbage or provocative, and/or abusive comments etc. etc. just to stir thing up; I don't believe any genuine fan of an artist, whether it be Jewel, Lena Horne, the Beatles, Pearl, Jam, Royal Trux, (pick anyone you like) would choose to post such puerile comments ~ and be disrespectul toward the artist they claim to like, or those other members of the artist's fan community. With this list's move toward un-moderated status, we're going to see trolls and clowns try and stir up controversy. But let's not play into their hands or get sucked in by such nonsense. If this anonymous poster wants to set up a mail list and talk ad nauseum on it, then, that's AOK. There's no free speech issues at stake here, it's just likely some juvenile boy, (whatever be his purported age), seeking attention and getting it from a gathering of EDAs. keep cool, cya, Adrian _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #64 **************************