From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #45 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, February 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 045 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] (EDA)RE:Just wanted to scream ["Paul Yap" ] Re: [EDA] (EDA)RE:Just wanted to scream ["Sandy" ] [EDA] Rosy and Mick ["Casey O'Brien" ] [EDA] kurt loder [Jwlfan22@aol.com] Re: [EDA] kurt loder ["Casey O'Brien" ] Re: [EDA] kurt loder [Lucas Holt ] [EDA] oh ee oh - do you want to play [PiscesChic@aol.com] [EDA] NJC: New Fan Site by Gerrit [Gerrit ] Re: [EDA] kurt loder ["Sandy" ] [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #44 [Rhett Creighton ] [EDA] Jewel @ Music In High Place. Was it really? [=?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=2] [EDA] There Kurt Loder Incident [Mattman8818@aol.com] [EDA] Jewel Web Awards [=?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:05:32 -0800 From: "Paul Yap" Subject: [EDA] (EDA)RE:Just wanted to scream I don't know about you guys...but i can not wait til Jewel's next album! After hearing some of her new songs, like Rosy and Mick, and Serve the Ego...EEEP!! it makes me all warm inside!! I wish their were really good mp3's of these songs, but they're all kinda fuzzy!! BUt that's okay...it'll just highten my anticipation!! Angelinfatuation ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:02:11 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] (EDA)RE:Just wanted to scream Both of the mp3's I have of Serve the Ego and Rosy and Mick are good quality - not fuzzy at all. They are much better quality than a lot of the mp3's of Jewel's unreleased stuff. ~ Sandy - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Yap" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:05 AM Subject: [EDA] (EDA)RE:Just wanted to scream > I don't know about you guys...but i can not wait til Jewel's next album! After > hearing some of her new songs, like Rosy and Mick, and Serve the Ego...EEEP!! > it makes me all warm inside!! I wish their were really good mp3's of these > songs, but they're all kinda fuzzy!! BUt that's okay...it'll just highten my > anticipation!! > > Angelinfatuation ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:18:30 -0000 From: "Casey O'Brien" Subject: [EDA] Rosy and Mick Hey, If anyone knows where I can get a copy of the lyrics to Rosy and Mick, can they let me know please, thanks a bunch! Casey _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 04:28:52 EST From: Jwlfan22@aol.com Subject: [EDA] kurt loder remember the kurt loder interview from hell? well the webster's dictionary says that jewel was right if she was using the archaic meaning of the word "casualty." whatever haha. joe your one constant star angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:34:22 -0000 From: "Casey O'Brien" Subject: Re: [EDA] kurt loder sorry guys....... just got a really dumb question, but what is the whole kurt loder episode that everyone is talking about? thanks, Case >From: Jwlfan22@aol.com >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] kurt loder >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 04:28:52 EST > >remember the kurt loder interview from hell? well the webster's dictionary >says that jewel was right if she was using the archaic meaning of the word >"casualty." whatever haha. > >joe >your one constant star angel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:23:38 -0500 From: Lucas Holt Subject: Re: [EDA] kurt loder Kurt Loder tried to correct Jewel's spelling in an interview. I think it was about some of her poetry. Casey O'Brien wrote: > sorry guys....... > > just got a really dumb question, but what is the whole kurt loder episode > that everyone is talking about? > > thanks, > > Case > > >From: Jwlfan22@aol.com > >To: jewel@smoe.org > >Subject: [EDA] kurt loder > >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 04:28:52 EST > > > >remember the kurt loder interview from hell? well the webster's dictionary > >says that jewel was right if she was using the archaic meaning of the word > >"casualty." whatever haha. > > > >joe > >your one constant star angel > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - -- Lucas Holt Luke@FoolishGames.com ___________________________________________________ http://www.foolishgames.com "The Macintosh software might have become the successor to MS-DOS. OS/2 or UNIX might have. As it happened, MS-DOS was succeeded by Windows..." --Bill Gates, The Road Ahead If Windows never happened, what would be on your desktop? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:25:27 EST From: PiscesChic@aol.com Subject: [EDA] oh ee oh - do you want to play did anyone notice that jewel does that oh-ee-oh thing in songs other than do you want to play? i was just listening to down so long and she sings it after the second chorus through the bridge and at the end of the song. she also sings it in jupiter. i guess she's quite fond of the oh-ee-ohs. andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:34:32 -0800 From: Gerrit Subject: [EDA] NJC: New Fan Site by Gerrit Hey everyone, Gerrit here.. I'm the one with Gerrit's Jewel Page http://www.endor.org/jewel With the EDA Yearbook.. ;P http://www.endor.org/jewel/eda/yearbook Well I made a fan site for another band that I love. http://thepushstars.com Check it out. :) Let me know what you think. =) Oh yeah, and if you haven't already, listen to some of their songs.. see if you like 'em as much as I do! =) Thanks, Gerrit ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:00:00 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] kurt loder > Kurt Loder tried to correct Jewel's spelling in an interview. I think it was > about some of her poetry. Actually, he tried to fix her grammar. I don't remember exactly what poem it was but she used to the word "casualty" as a form of the word "casual", as in someone doing something casually, or with casualty as she put it. Kurt Loder felt the need to point out that the word "casuality" means someone injured or killed in an accident of some sort...like casualties of war.... ~ Sandy > > Casey O'Brien wrote: > > > sorry guys....... > > > > just got a really dumb question, but what is the whole kurt loder episode > > that everyone is talking about? > > > > thanks, > > > > Case > > > > >From: Jwlfan22@aol.com > > >To: jewel@smoe.org > > >Subject: [EDA] kurt loder > > >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 04:28:52 EST > > > > > >remember the kurt loder interview from hell? well the webster's dictionary > > >says that jewel was right if she was using the archaic meaning of the word > > >"casualty." whatever haha. > > > > > >joe > > >your one constant star angel > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > -- > > Lucas Holt > Luke@FoolishGames.com > ___________________________________________________ > http://www.foolishgames.com > > "The Macintosh software might have become the successor to MS-DOS. > OS/2 or UNIX might have. As it happened, MS-DOS was succeeded by Windows..." > --Bill Gates, The Road Ahead > > If Windows never happened, what would be on your desktop? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:27:47 -0500 (EST) From: Rhett Creighton Subject: [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #44 > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:54:57 EST > From: CleaningDuster@aol.com > Subject: Re: [EDA] Sometimes It Be That Way > > Ebonics means black slang. In oakland cali, they actually wanted teachers to > learn it so they could teach there students better. I personally don't think > that you should correcting Jewel's grammar. That is called poetic license. > Does anybody remeber a certain Kurt Loder incident. Also you title should be > its not it's. > Chandini > Assuming that you mean you don't think that I should be correcting Jewel's grammer, I agree with you. I'm really glad about all the responses people sent about this. I love Kathy Biggs' interpretation of the meta-irony in the title being wrong because, "sometimes it be that way". Also, thanks for everyone who supports me in singing the song however I want. As a male college student, most of my friends don't take Jewel seriously, but I'm amazed at how deep I can keep taking her art. In "Sometimes It Be That Way", "Quiet Warrior", and "Cold Song", I see increadibly brilliant lyric writing, vocal ability, and emotion. I guess, from where I interpret her art, her intentions seem like such a spark of genius that what I would consider "flaws" disturb me a lot. Here is my summary: Sometimes It Be That Way: Very Dylanesque lyrics, increadible emotions, and vocal ability. The title seems like a barrier from telling the story to the masses. Quiet Warrior: Absolutely heartbreaking verse lyrics of two lovers with increadible feeling, emotion, and vocal ability. I just can't find myself caring about someone's "quiet warrior". If my lover ever told me that the wind blows because the sky is singing and the sun rises because I desire it to be seen, I'd cry. But I wouldn't be too excited if she followed up on that by telling me that I'm her "quiet warrior". That's beyond sappy. Cold Song: A stroke of genius. Short happy song very much in the style of Woody Guthrie's "take me riding in the car". The first time I ever heard this issue meantioned, and we all know it is a serious problem: how do you kiss someone when you have a cold? She covers the issue perfectly. Starts out talking about her little cold, and then asks, "do you do you wanna wanna catch a cold with me?" Your first reaction is that you can't kiss someone with a cold, but she makes it sound so nice. And she just wants to kiss and snuggle and tell the boss that "we're caught in a sneezing storm". She makes it sound so perfect that I could never turn that down. And just when you have the sweet image of Jewel snuggling with someone she throws you the curve ball in the final lyric, which I have verified, "do you do you wanna wanna, wanna wanna do you do you, do you wanna do me? Yeah? well do you do you wanna wanna catch a cold with me". And I think, Woah! Jewel, that's a little foward of you isn't it?! As great as this song is, I was plauged by one thing. There is no denying it, but in one version, I think the second time she says, "I ain't just feverish, I ain't just *lying*". She totally hits the wrong note on "lying". I've never heard Jewel do that before and bothered me so much. Thank Bob, I meantioned that to EDA and someone sent me another version where she hits all the notes. Star Spangled Banner at Superbowl: Such a sweet version, and she looked so beautiful with the sparkles on her face, and the way she performed it. Why the heck did she have to LIPSINC it??? I know they make all the superbowl singer pre-record it, but this is Jewel! I wish I could hear how she would really sing that live to the Superbowl. I once read a Woody Guthrie songbook that had a warning: "All of the songs in the this book are copyrighted, and anyone caught singing them will be my friend". Part of Jewel's art is what people do with her music, and I'm sure that she knows that. What is the Kurt Loder incident? I love you Jewel!!! Hi ho! Rhett ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: [EDA] Jewel @ Music In High Place. Was it really? Hi! I read an article in Sonicnet.com that said that the concert RCA / Radio Shack was at the Hudson Theatre in New York's Millennium Hotel, as part of a concert co-sponsored by RCA and Radio Shack. At the end of the article it says: "The concert was part of a special RCA-Radio Shack promotion to announce that Radio Shack is now selling RCA digital audio and video products. The alliance of the two companies will kick off with an international music series called "Music in High Places," which films musicians playing at international sites such as Perus Machu Picchu and Egypts Great Pyramids. According to RCA, Jewel will film an episode for the series." ... the concert at the Hudson Theatre in New York is not 'Music In High Place' itself... 'cause the article, written as a review after the concert, says Jewel WILL be filming an episode for 'Music In High Places'. So, my point (and my question) is that Jewel's performance at the Hudson Theatre in New York's Millennium Hotel is not the episode for 'Music In High Places' (?) I hope someone can see my point... here's the whole article so you can understand better what I'm trying to say: Jewel Debuts New Songs At Private Concert Lyle Lovett opens show co-sponsored by Radio Shack and RCA. Singer/songwriter Jewel debuted three songs during an hour-long concert Tuesday night at the Hudson Theatre in New York's Millennium Hotel. Though she is not on tour, but rather penning new material from her Texas home, the pop-folk singer performed as part of a concert co-sponsored by RCA and Radio Shack. The concert will be broadcast on televisions in Radio Shack stores beginning Thursday and will run until the end of the month. Opening the show for the crowd of 300 was singer/songwriter Lyle Lovett. The Texan performed some of his older songs, including "If I Had a Boat," off 1988's Pontiac, and "Good Intentions," from Lyle Lovett and His Large Band (1989). Jewel, whose most recent release was Joy: A Holiday Collection, in December, performed a set of hits that included "You Were Meant for Me," "Foolish Games" and "Who Will Save Your Soul" (RealAudio excerpt) from her debut album, Pieces of You (1995). She then moved on to more upbeat hits, such as "Down So Long" (RealAudio excerpt) and "Deep Water," as well as the more folk-oriented "What's Simple Is True," from her sophomore release, Spirit (1998). "My voice is kind of hoarse tonight," Jewel said between songs. "Sorry about those high notes." Nevertheless, the 25-year-old singer, looking decidedly sophisticated in an orange silk dress and black high heels, was energetic and in high spirits as she strapped on an electric guitar to belt out a new, rock-country tune that took her into Bonnie Raitt territory. Other new offerings included a Bob Dylan-esque folk song about living (and loving) in Texas, as well as a ballad that Jewel told the audience was about a friend who recently died of cancer. The concert was part of a special RCA-Radio Shack promotion to announce that Radio Shack is now selling RCA digital audio and video products. The alliance of the two companies will kick off with an international music series called "Music in High Places," which films musicians playing at international sites such as Perus Machu Picchu and Egypts Great Pyramids. According to RCA, Jewel will film an episode for the series. PLEASE ANSWER, Mirko P.S.- The article was written June 7 2000. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:20:03 EST From: Mattman8818@aol.com Subject: [EDA] There Kurt Loder Incident Here is the breakdown on the Kurt Loder interview for MTV. Kurt was reading a line from the song "Kiss the Flame": "there are nightmares on the sidewalks, there are jokes on tv, there are people selling thoughtlessness with such casuality". Kurt told Jewel that she used the word wrong and that casuality meant "getting your arm blown off or something" Jewel struck back saying that was a correct form of the word, the Kurt once again corrected it. Then Jewel said he was "an ass for pointing that out on the air" and urged him to move for "next question please" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:59:40 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: [EDA] Jewel Web Awards Hi! Will anyone be hosting the Jewel Web Awards this year? Thanks, Mirko ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:01:27 -0500 From: "Kerri" Subject: Re: [EDA] kurt loder I didn't see the interview, but I think it was in reference to Kiss the Flame "people selling thoughtlessness with such casualty" - -Kerri - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [EDA] kurt loder > > Kurt Loder tried to correct Jewel's spelling in an interview. I think it > was > > about some of her poetry. > > > Actually, he tried to fix her grammar. I don't remember exactly what poem > it was but she used to the word "casualty" as a form of the word "casual", > as in someone doing something casually, or with casualty as she put it. > Kurt Loder felt the need to point out that the word "casuality" means > someone injured or killed in an accident of some sort...like casualties of > war.... > > ~ Sandy > > > > > Casey O'Brien wrote: > > > > > sorry guys....... > > > > > > just got a really dumb question, but what is the whole kurt loder > episode > > > that everyone is talking about? > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Case > > > > > > >From: Jwlfan22@aol.com > > > >To: jewel@smoe.org > > > >Subject: [EDA] kurt loder > > > >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 04:28:52 EST > > > > > > > >remember the kurt loder interview from hell? well the webster's > dictionary > > > >says that jewel was right if she was using the archaic meaning of the > word > > > >"casualty." whatever haha. > > > > > > > >joe > > > >your one constant star angel > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > -- > > > > Lucas Holt > > Luke@FoolishGames.com > > ___________________________________________________ > > http://www.foolishgames.com > > > > "The Macintosh software might have become the successor to MS-DOS. > > OS/2 or UNIX might have. As it happened, MS-DOS was succeeded by > Windows..." > > --Bill Gates, The Road Ahead > > > > If Windows never happened, what would be on your desktop? ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #45 **************************