From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V5 #469 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, December 31 2000 Volume 05 : Number 469 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] X-Mas album ["S.H." ] [EDA] NJC [Ppmentpati@aol.com] [EDA] Chasing down the TRUTH ["stormie ." ] [EDA] ~happy holidays~ [HMN333@aol.com] Re: [EDA] is Jewel a Sell out?? [SheriKaye82@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Chasing down the TRUTH [EastAngelEDA@aol.com] [EDA] *joy [RockerGrl34@aol.com] [EDA] Joy - The HolidayCD [Lseids@aol.com] [EDA] njc: let it snow!!!! [waternymph ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 13:33:22 -0800 From: "S.H." Subject: Re: [EDA] X-Mas album I agree! People can be spiritual and have the values of a religion in their heart without practicing a specific one too. I think there is no doubt Jewel is a very spiritual person and has a great connection with nature and her world. :-) Way to go! :-) Steve TIGGER3122@aol.com wrote: > Hey all, hope your holidays were good! > I just wanted to say about Jewels X-Mas album. She has stated before that she > really enjoyed making this album because she gets to sing songs that let her > really use her voice. Any way, does it really matter if she is a True > Christian or not? Just because I'm not the same religion as my friends > doesn't mean that I can't wish them a happy holiday. Jewel enjoyed making an > album of songs that people happen to like listening to. Just my two cents. > > Have a Great new year!! > Caitlin > ~the purple angel~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:46:24 EST From: Ppmentpati@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NJC Hi Everyone- Just wanted to say good luck to everyone in the Northeast who are living in parts where the blizzard is hitting hard. I live in Worcester, MA and already we've got 7 inches of snow beneath our boots and tomorrow I have to shovel it!! :) Sheryl =) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 23:30:44 -0000 From: "stormie ." Subject: [EDA] Chasing down the TRUTH This was the title of a recent article in the Anchorage Daily News. It was a personal response to Chasing Down the Dawn from Jewel's Family in Alaska. It is written by her uncle and directed mostly towards a story about her aunt and cousin. Again, I have to say that I like Jewel. However, even as I read her book I noticed that she skewed the truth about a lot of what living in Alaska is like. Now it seems that her family is upset about how she is skewing the truth about her childhood and other aspects of her life. Remember the story about the local ranchwoman "Emmy" and her schizophrenic son "Decker"? Emmy is actually her Aunt Mossy who was supposedly like a second mother to her. And Decker was really her cousin Arlyn. (The following is the bulk of that article) Why change their names? Everyone who knows them will know who she is talking about. And if someone has been like a second mother to you, as Jewel says of Mossy, why not use her real name and mention some of the good times with her: riding horses on the beach, family potlucks, get-togethers with cousins, singing around the campfires. Instead she launches into a confused and troubling account of her schizophrenic cousin. The family had chipped in to build him a cabin in the woods, but Jewel dismisses this as something built with his "crazy checks"...We are very proud of our son, but like other people with this tragic illness, he struggles with self-esteem and confidence. Jewels was cautioned several times that writing about his illness could risk his health and well-being. We asked her to talk to him about it, but she refused, even after she knew that he had mentioned feeling exploited. By focusing on titillating deatails and omitting how gallantly he's struggle to overcome his illness, Jewel effectively freezes him in some of his bleakest moments, while Jewel herself comes across as a caring young person who befriends this local schizophrenic. "It's curious and sad," Mossy says. "Jewel doesn't mention her cousin's ongoing, heroic struggle, nor all the help he has recieved from family and friends. For all her purported concern, she hasn't been in touch with him or helped in any way." Nor does Jewel even mention her other cousins, who are all interesting young people. This tendency to dwell on the negative continues throughout her treatment of her Alaska family. At times it seems as if he was to cast herself in the image of Cinderella, rising from a poor and troubled homestead family. "Jewel creates the impression that she spent her entire childhood on the homestead in lonliness, abuse, and poverty," Mossy says. "Actually she was only on the homestead a few summers. And then she wasn't isolated in the wilds, but surrounded by her grandfather, and many aunts and uncles and cousins who cared deeply about her." "We love Jewel, but we feel used," says her paternal aunt Fay. "I can see her thinking, 'How can we keep developing this Alaska myth thing. We've already gotten a lot of mileage out of the log cabin. Maybe I can ty a new angle - like family abuse.'" Jewel describes her grandfather with the loaded term "abusive" without telling about his many contributions to Alaska and to the rich musicial background from which she came. Yule could be harsh demanding in his Old World way. But its equally true that he was devoted to his family and that this children loved him dearly... "Jewel just hasn't painted a true picture of our family," says another aunt Catkin. "Despite the challenges, we had a close-knit family and were instilled with a heritage of adventure, of making a difference, of music and poetry." Jewel again veers toward negative things when she speaks of her father. Instead of writing about how her dad started over when his house burned to the ground in the middle of winter or how hard he worked to take care of her when her mother left, she says her father "disliked me from my first cry." I'm not sure how a newborn makes a judgment like this. But I was around then , and I know her father loved her. He always has. Ironically, a case could be made that the most hurtful, even "abusive" thing, a Kilcher has ever done is to write "Chasing Down the Dawn." But let's remember that Jewel is hardly the first young person to hurt others as they wrele with understanding themselves and their family. It's just unfortunate that her celebrity has let her youthful analysis of other be splashed across the country. Here, I think, is a central problme with "Chasing Down the Dawn" and with celebrity books in general. When a person does something extraordinarily well, whether it's singing or hitting a baseball, there are publishers who will offer them a lot of money to write their life story regarldess or whether they have they have the experience, skill or perspective to write an insightful and balanced treatment of the people in their lives....especially when it comes to writing about a family as creative, intense, and complex as Jewel's. Jewel, I'd encourage you to step back a little...and remember, as you sing so eloquently, "only kindess matters." - ------------------------------ I think Jewel's stuff is based in truth but she is beginning to create her own truths....It really is too bad. I don't know what to think about her anymore. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:43:29 EST From: HMN333@aol.com Subject: [EDA] ~happy holidays~ hi all, this is kind of a late message, but i unfortunately spent christmas night in the emergency room, have been re-couping and was unable to relay it until now. i just wanted to send the best of holiday wishes to all of you, no matter what religion, if any, that you celebrate. on a personal note, i know that i am celebrating my newly found, currently "forming", i guess you could say, faith that is starting to help me through some hard times . just wanted to wish everyone my best. ~happy holidays~ heather HMN333@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:16:00 EST From: SheriKaye82@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] is Jewel a Sell out?? Hi, I have never written anything on this list before, but I really enjoy reading other people's view points on Jewel and what is going on with her life and her career. Personally, I really enjoy Jewel's Christmas CD, along with all her other works. I read this last email though and felt I should respond. I am not easily offended, but this last email did offend me. I mean this concerning the paragraph about Mormonism. I am a Mormon and would just like to express my thoughts on this subject. I hate it when people bash Mormonism, or any other religion for that fact. Mormons do believe in Jesus Christ, that he the Savior and that he is the Son of God. Not only do we accept him as the Son of God, but also as a major part of our lives. The official name of our church is: The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints. Each week we take what we call the sacrament, before which we say a prayer, which begins: "God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of THY SON, Jesus Christ....." He is God's son, the Savior of the world, and it is because of HIM that we are saved. I don't mean to sound all preachy or anything, but I just get a little upset when people bash other's religions, no matter what religion it is. I do apologize for this email, for I know that this mailing list is supposed to be about Jewel, but I don't think that Jewel would appreciate dicing other people's religions either. Feel free to comment on how you feel on this subject. Thanks for your time! Sheri >Subj: [EDA] is Jewel a Sell out?? >Date: 12/29/2000 4:01:11 PM Mountain Standard Time >From: phkme2@excite.com >Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org >To: jewel@smoe.org > >Well with all the updates on how Joy is doing, makes me wonder if Jewel has >sold out...... > >please read all before you respond..... > >To me Christmas is what it is suppose to be. >It to me is to celebrate the Birth of Christ Jesus. Not about all this >commericalism and buy buy buy,spend spend spend to show your love. It is >about the gift God gave us, and a time to celebrate it, and to live our >lives in a loving God-like way. but to totally understand that or to really >do christmas you need to know Jesus as your Savior. Not saying you need to >go to church every day or every weekend or even once a year, but you need >to know Jesus in your Heart, have a personal relationship with him.... > >Ok back to Joy....lets look at these songs > >1. Joy to the world! the Lord is come >Let Earth receive her King.... > >Joy to the world the Savior reigns...... > >2. O HOLY Night >the stars are brightly shining >It is the Night >of our dear Saviors birth > > >3. Silent Night HOLY night >all is calm all is bright >Round yon virgin mother and child >HOLY infant so tender and mild > >Silent night Holy night >Son of GOD >Love's pure light >Radiant beams from thy HOLY face >with the dawn of REDEEMING GRACE > >Jesus LORD at thy birth >Jesus Lord at thy birth > > >5. O little town of bethlehem (speaks for its self) > >7. Hark the Herald Angels sing.. >Glory to the newborn King >Peace on earth and mercy mild >God and sinner reconciled.... > >born that man no more may die >born to rais the sons of earth >born to give them second birth >hark the herald angels sing >Glory to the newborn King..... > >9. Face of Love (written BY JEWEL her self!) >Until tonight >My heart was just half full >i'd never known the fruit which FED the SOUL >but now I SEE what may put to rest my longing > >chorus > >For I have seen the Face of LOVE >the Grace of GOD, the face of Love..... (eep reading the song)... > > >10 Medley.....look at lyrics. > >11. I wonder as i Wander (written by Jewel?) > >i wonder as i wander >out under the sky >How JESUS the Savior did come to die >To save lowly people >Like you and like i >I wonder as i wander >out under the sky > > > >Just read the lyrics to these songs. The main Them is Jesus, Gods love, the >SAVIOR......Theses songs reflect to me the Christmas story, the birth of >Jesus. We hear theses songs a lot, we might go to church once a year and >sing theses, or hear them on the radio and sing, or just sing with our >family. > >BUT have you really looked at the words!!! the Meanings?? This is where i >Wonder if Jewel sold out on JOY. Is she a Christian? which i mean by that >DOES she have Christ in her Life? does she trust Jesus as her personal >Savior??? i believe Christian is a PERSONAL Relationship with Jesus, not a >Religion, not a whole bunch of Rules, etc, etc. but does she believe in >Jesus. > >I know her Mom was/is Mormon. but they dont believe Jesus was the savior, >they dont accept Jesus as the son of God. So where does Jewel stand on this >issue? > >Because if she dont know or care about Jesus, and she makes a CD to Honor >him and the season, then it seems more about MONEY then the Reason for the >Season. > >Thats like Jewel doing a CD of Metallica songs and half of her own music >just to Appeal to that Group. Her singing Worship/Christmas songs is the >same thing. If she does not truely believe in Jesus as the Savior, then >making a Cd with a majority of the songs on it in the context is just >appealing to that group, and/or using Commericalism to make a profite. > >Hey Jewel, not trying to bash you, just want to know where you stand. and >if you have a relationship with Jesus........ > >sincerely >the heavenly angel..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 22:13:27 EST From: EastAngelEDA@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Chasing down the TRUTH I just think maybe as a child she saw things more exaggerated than what they were, as any child does. I don't think she purposely hurt her family. Gina EastAngel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:12:37 EST From: RockerGrl34@aol.com Subject: [EDA] *joy fredsteve wrote: <> I Wonder As I Wander was not written by Jewel.. to clear that up again. thanks katie *the sarcastic angel* :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:12:48 EST From: Lseids@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Joy - The HolidayCD Seriously, why are you analyzing this subject to death. I am Jewish... although I am not religious and don't believe in God, I absolutely love listening and singing along with this CD. When it comes to music, I think it defies religion, race, whatever... it's a common language. Period. Laurie. Check out www.Talzee.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:27:02 -0500 (EST) From: waternymph Subject: [EDA] njc: let it snow!!!! hey everyone! ok. let's get this straight. i am from texas, you know the land of armadillos, jalepenos, 80 degree winters and serapes? this week i am up in the north. i am in new jersey at the moment, and there are 18 freaking inches of snow on the ground! WOOOOOHHHHHHH. i am not used to that! it is really beautiful and tonight i just had to go out and fall flat on my back in the yard and make a snow angel right there in my big 70's full length fake furry coat. it was great! if any of you are in the area, tomorrow (new year's eve) i will be playing a LRC at dan stark's and leif yu's place in jersey city. i am sure most of you remember dan from the early days. he is a brilliant sound technician and mastered such early angelfood as rare angels and radio angels. he also produced and recorded my new cd, MARIPOSA, which is now available to the public! if you are interested, check out my website for mp3s. i really hope to meet some new faces at the party tomorrow! like you liz!!!! if you need directions to the living room show, email dan at carnivore@bigfoot.com and i can't wait to see you guys! http://www.geocities.com/luna_taylor love!!!! luna taylor ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V5 #469 ***************************