From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #704 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, November 26 1999 Volume 04 : Number 704 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "Presence" * OR * go to the Atlantic Records site at http://www.atlantic-records.com * and go to the "On Tour" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- * And I'd find Coconuts where...? [MetalChic3@aol.com] * Vote for your #1 Jewel Song [KSco2001@aol.com] * Yet another Jewel mention in EW [Mgsju@aol.com] * Salon's RWD article [Paul Schreiber ] * Letterman ["Joe Crisco" ] * HGH/Jewel donations.....we can do better [Uri Cancio ] * angelfood ["s k" ] * re: lyrics and such [RowdiusEDA@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:53:53 EST From: MetalChic3@aol.com Subject: * And I'd find Coconuts where...? Alright, here's the deal. I'm in KC, got a friend in NYC. He's willing to go get me a CD signed by Jewel Friday, but oh no... suddenly I find out telling him that Jewel's signing stuff at Coconuts just ISN'T enough information. How was I to know there's about a million of those out there. :P Who's heard of it anyway ;) hehe Anyway... if anyone could help me by possibly telling me the address of Coconut's... whatever this place might be... and maybe even a time, (I've see posts saying 10:30 but they didn't sound too sure) it would be greatly appreciated. BTW... whoever was wondering about where NBC is located it's at 5th Ave and 53rd... I discovered this while harrassing everyone on my b/l who's residing anywhere near the area. :) Thanks for your help guys, Happy Thanksgiving, byebye.... Tracey The not so creative person who can't think of a cute little name for herself :\ hehe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:09:49 EST From: KSco2001@aol.com Subject: * Vote for your #1 Jewel Song Dear EDA's Monday the 29th will be the last day to vote. It's coming along well. Plase remember that is you sent it to any other place than iteok@hotmail.com It was not counted unless I told you otherwise. You can still vote. Just send your favorite 3 songs to iteok@hotmail.com and they will be counted. Please if you haven't voted we want to make this as accurate as possible. Please vote. Thank You ~Psycho Angel~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:20:39 EST From: Mgsju@aol.com Subject: * Yet another Jewel mention in EW Hello everyone and Happy Thanksgiving! I don't remember if this has already been posted and if it has, I apologize for the redundancy. There is a brief, somewhat humorous mention of Jewel in the Nov. 19 issue of Entertainment Weekly. There is an article entitled "10 Stupid Questions" featuring opera singer Charlotte Church. One of the questions is as follows: "You do a tune on your new album called 'Jewel Song,' but there's nothing in it about Alaska or yodeling. What's up?" Her response: "It's about a girl looking in the mirror, saying 'How beautiful am I?' It's not about Jewel the singer. It was written [by Charles-Francois Gounod] over 100 years before she was born!" Anyways, I found it pretty amusing. Take care. Michele ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:53:06 -0500 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: * Salon's RWD article salon.com > Arts & Entertainment Nov. 24, 1999 http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/1999/11/24/devil "Ride With the Devil" Ang Lee's dark and sober fable might be the most interesting and least dogmatic view of the Civil War to wend its way into the multiplexes. - - - - - - - - - - - - - By Andrew O'Hehir "Ride With the Devil" sometimes seems as awkward, loose-limbed and gangly as the young men -- boys, really -- whose careers as irregular Confederate soldiers it follows. But for all its clumsy dialogue and loose plotting, this is historical filmmaking of a high order, both visually and thematically ambitious. Although it's laden with youthful star power, "Ride With the Devil" is no exuberant joyride. Rather, it's a dark and sober fable of lost innocence, demonstrating how easily juvenile enthusiasm can be perverted or destroyed. Maybe this view of war isn't revolutionary, but it's presented with severe elegance by Taiwan-born director Ang Lee, who brings his dispassionate but sympathetic outsider's eye to another peculiar corner of American society. (His previous film was "The Ice Storm.") Even if this isn't the best Civil War film ever made, it's one of the most interesting and least dogmatic, perhaps because Lee has no vested interest in the internecine conflict that continues to echo through our culture almost 140 years later. At first, the story of Jake Roedel (Tobey Maguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), best friends in 1860 rural Missouri who join a gang of pro-Southern marauders known as "bushwhackers," seems an awfully long way from the 1970s Long Island anomie of "The Ice Storm." But there are threads that connect the two pictures: Both are studies of human beings in harsh weather, certainly a common issue in most of North America, and both find a sere and memorable beauty in landscapes not conventionally considered lovely. In fact, Lee and cinematographer Frederick Elmes (whose impressive résumé includes "Blue Velvet" and "Wild at Heart" as well as "The Ice Storm") shot "Ride With the Devil" in an impressive wide-screen format; see it at the biggest megaplex you can find. (It was mostly filmed on location in the hill country along the Kansas-Missouri border, where much of the terrain looks no different than it did a century ago.) Furthermore, both "The Ice Storm" and "Ride With the Devil" examine American society at moments of epoch-making turmoil. In the press notes to this film, Lee writes that he sees the Civil War as the point when the values of Yankee Protestant capitalism -- in particular, the notion of society as a group of free and equal individuals in economic competition - -- began its inexorable triumph over tradition-bound, communitarian cultures from Missouri to China. If the Northern victory was both necessary and inevitable in historical terms, its long-term global legacy is considerably more ambiguous. Lee and screenwriter James Schamus (who adapted Daniel Woodrell's novel "Woe to Live On") are certainly not endorsing the Confederate cause by focusing on the bushwhackers. Part of the point of "Ride With the Devil," in fact, is that the dirty war in Kansas and Missouri was something like an ugly neighborhood feud, where men fought for their friends, families and hometowns rather than over some abstract concept of nationhood. In fact, by any logical assessment, Jake, the son of a German immigrant who passionately supports Lincoln and the Union, doesn't belong on the Southern side at all. But after his best friend, dashing babe-magnet Jack Bull, sees his father killed and his house burned by pro-Northern Kansas raiders known as "Jayhawkers," Jake never questions his loyalties. Maguire's introverted, half-mumbled acting style, employed with such emotional power in both "The Ice Storm" and "Pleasantville," might seem an odd choice for a 19th century character. But Jake is a perennial outsider, a merchant's son trying to conform to the ideals of Southern masculinity, and Maguire's halting, self-conscious manner suits him perfectly. Ulrich, on the other hand, was surely born to play a member of the decaying rural aristocracy. With his elegant sweep of hair, glittering eyes and supercilious bearing, he makes Jack Bull into a commanding, pseudo-noble figure, almost eager to throw away his life in misguided heroism. "Ride With the Devil" gets off to a fumbling start, with lots of labored picnic chitchat about the impending war and "that black Republican Abe Lincoln." Perhaps the epitome of unlikely exposition is reached when someone says, "Lawrence, Kan., and its abolitionists are a long way from here," as if it were something others in the conversation didn't know. But after Jake and Jack Bull take to horse and join the band of daredevil bushwhackers led by Black John (James Caviezel), the leisurely pace and florid period dialogue begin to pay dividends. As the only slave state to remain in the Union, Missouri was torn apart by bloody, small-scale guerrilla warfare -- Woodrell has said his novel was partly inspired by present-day events in the Balkans. Lee's skirmish scenes, although undeniably exciting, emphasize the random brutality of the carnage as small bands of bushwhackers and Jayhawkers shoot it out at close range from farmhouse to farmhouse. Schamus' dialogue is a little off-putting at first -- it presumes that 19th century Americans actually talked in the stilted, piss-elegant phrases they used to write letters. So we have Jake, after losing a finger in a shootout, announcing, "It makes me notable by the loss," and a fellow bushwhacker calling out, "We shall to the Evans farm, boys!" or telling a visiting widow, "I believe we can essay some hospitality." I can't judge the veracity of this device, but like the rest of the movie it finally becomes convincing; the details in "Ride With the Devil" are so carefully managed you feel as if you can taste the wood smoke and smell the unwashed boots. Black John's band also includes the blond rake George Clyde (Australian actor Simon Baker) and his constant companion, Daniel Holt (Jeffrey Wright), a freed slave who feels he owes Clyde his life for liberating him. So Lee not only focuses on the little-known Kansas-Missouri front of the war, but on the undisputed if historically uncomfortable fact that some black men fought for the Confederacy, against their own evident best interests. Convincing a contemporary audience that a black character feels a debt of honor to the slave-owners' regime might seem an impossible task. Wright, an extraordinarily talented actor who played the title role in "Basquiat" and the drag queen Belize in "Angels in America" on Broadway, pretty nearly pulls it off. As the film progresses and the war in the Missouri Valley descends into anarchy, the focus gradually shifts to the three outsiders attached to the bushwhacker cause: Jake, Holt and the farm widow Sue Lee (Jewel). In her feature-film debut, Jewel turns out to be a robust performer with an easy, unforced manner; there's no hint of pop-star glibness to her acting. When the bushwhackers hole up on her farm for the winter, she and Jack Bull strike up a plausible romance with implausible speed. After the fighting resumes and fate interrupts Jack Bull and Sue Lee's idyll, the single woman, the former slave and the German have no one to turn to except each other. There is tenderness, humor and even some optimism in Lee and Schamus' lengthy (perhaps too lengthy) denouement, as this trio strives to heal their emotional and physical wounds, but almost no sentimentality. Jake and Holt, after all, have participated in the Lawrence massacre, an infamous bushwhacker raid into Kansas during which 180 civilians were slaughtered. Both have also acquired a nemesis in fellow bushwhacker Pitt Mackeson (Jonathan Rhys Meyers), an almost spectral figure of swishy, early-Jagger bigotry and hatred. As Mackeson's chilling final encounter with Jake, Holt and Sue Lee suggests, neither the war's survivors nor their nation will ever be the same. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:54:50 EST From: Iuvkatie@aol.com Subject: * carson/jewel i thought the most apparent time carson seemed to have a thing for jewel was when they were debuting her spirit album...they were so flirty..and cute anyway i think he does have a lot of respect for her...and everyone else in the music industry.. later angels! ~ katie *the glowing angel* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:41:14 EST From: AmyC22@aol.com Subject: * FACE OF LOVE!!! YEA!!!! FACE OF LOVE!! I absolutely LOVE that song...ever since I heard it from JewelStock...I'd play it over and over. Then she played it at Sessions and now on Letterman! Heehee...she said she was going to make it a big hit to piss that lady from Romeo & Juliet off. Jewel looked great and sang it beautifully tonight. *sigh* I'm sooo upset I can't be there at the Today Show tomorrow, but all you EDAs who are going, let her know we love her! Have a good time. 'Night angels.. amy *the raindrop angel* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:42:07 EST From: CaitAdaire@aol.com Subject: * Jewel on Letterman Awww she was so beautiful. Absolutly divine. She sang face of love, which is a wodnerful son gin itself. She is so figity lol. its cute. she played with that ring from atlantic the whole time lol. Anyway, we also got final confermation on Ty Murray :o) lol... little "vague" huh? well, it was wodnerful, and she looked beautiful... our angel is a true angel :o) P.S. for all of you wonderful angels who have realized, i haven tbeen writing, i am back from the hospital now... and will be returning private emails again. Lots of stuff to discusss.... and the latest from Alan on teh eda project.... $1200 so far on donations.... CONGRATS EDA'S!!!!!!! keep up the great work :o) amanda the undecided angel "Who will save your soul, if you wont save your own?" Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:43:06 EST From: Wigglytooth523@aol.com Subject: * Letterman Hey All, Just finished watching Letterman. Jewel was sooo awesome! Looking awesome as always(shes so cute). Dave asks some weird questions. Oh well. It was great just to see Jewel on TV. Night all, Eliot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:46:59 -0600 From: Jason Bartel Subject: * Jewel on Letterman & CNN.com Let me just say this about her performance on Letterman on Thanksgiving night: "WOW!" She sung "Face of Love" and it was stunningly beautiful. I'm glad she did go with the standard "Rudolph" or another regular Christmas song. They actually gave her a little time to chat after the song too. Dave asked her about the origins of the song, and about her boyfriend. She kinda darted the questions about him though. :-) BTW, also found an article about RWTD, and some pictures on cnn.com. She makes some very relevant comments on fame and taking risks: http://cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9911/24/jewel/index.html Jason "The Airplay Angel" - -Please visit the site and help Jewel get more airplay!- http://members.xoom.com/dwstudios/jewel/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:41:49 -0800 From: "Joe Crisco" Subject: * Letterman Jewel was SO beautiful. I think this was one of the best TV performances I have seen in a long time. She did PERFECT!!! She did though seem a little hesitant to talk about her boyfriend. I liked her bit of sarcasm there at the end, I think it was cute..... I cant wait for the Today Show. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:02:12 -0500 From: Uri Cancio Subject: * HGH/Jewel donations.....we can do better $1,200??? nothing..I'm greddy...I want ALL OF YOU to give back more.. even though, thanks to all EDA's who donated,but still, if ALL of you donated $1.00, that would be like over $2,000.00, and we only have $1,200.00..c'mon..you love Jewel? give back...hasn't she given us more than that?...just think about it! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:37:47 -0800 From: "Joe Crisco" Subject: * Why Stop Here??? This is such a GREAT Christmas gift to Jewel. But, I was thinking....why should we stop here. Maybe this should just be the start. I think it would just be great if this could be an ongoing thing. We could tally up the totals every month from now on, so Jewel can see how much the EDA's are giving to HGH. A Christmas gift to her, could be a great start to an ongoing project by the EDA"s . I for one am willing to give $20 a month for this. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:47:35 PST From: "s k" Subject: * angelfood Hi all!! Again I have some time on my hands and am getting very hungry. heehee. So if any of you out there would like to trade some angelfood please drop me a line and I'll send you my list. Any newbies out there that are interested are welcome. Alright have a great day! Sarah travlinchickie "I sit drinking German beer and trying to come up with the big one and I'm not going to make it. I'm just going to keep drinking more and more Germna beer and rolling smokes and by 11 pm I'll be spread out on the unmade bed face up asleep under the electric light still waiting on the immortal poem." Charles Bukowski ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:14:12 EST From: RowdiusEDA@aol.com Subject: * re: lyrics and such howdy, Okay, here is Jewel and Joy's lyrics, and after that I'll show the mentions and such... (and wow! it feels good to be "beloved"! =Ţ ) When I Was With You by Jewel Kilcher and Joy Eden Harrison Do you remember when we were younger, All those crazy things that we used to do? You'd play my hips like drumsets And sing all your favorite Stevie Wonder tunes When I was with ya. Do you remember we did everything together? I'd share my otter pops with you. And we would sing in all the slimy slimy barrooms We'd watch for your cousin Ed on the evening news When I was with ya I'd warm your tootsies up, they're always so cold And I'd fix you supper from leftovers two weeks old And I'd read you the classified ads in bed And you would point out all the miserable lives That I could have had instead of being with you Could've been Whoopi Goldberg's breasts Do you remember when you wrote all those letters? Though I admit they were kind of sick But still I knew I was your honey sugar dumpling And just like a good lime you'd alweys be there to lick When I was with ya Do you remember when you took all those classes? All those crazy gadgets you would fix I hated how cluttered our apartment was I hated our landlord Harry, he was such a dick When I was with ya I'd warm your tootsies up, they're always so cold And I'd fix you supper from leftovers two weeks old And I'd read you the classified ads in bed And you would point out all the miserable lives that I could have had instead of being with you Could've been Richard Nixon's last pair of Clean underwear going down the river Do you remember when we went to Mexico and stayed in that cute little place We were honin' our fine love-makin' skills and you tattoed "I love you" on your face When I was with ya I still remember the last time that I saw you You left me with a hotdog in my hand Was it cause I didn't want a pickle or was it a pretty senorita Oh well, there was always stuff that I didn't understand When I was with ya I'd warm your tootsies up, they're always so cold And I'd fix you supper from leftovers two weeks old And I'd read you the classified ads in bed And you would point out all the miserable lives that I could have had instead of being with you Being with you Being with you _______-- Okay, I admit, at first the refrences are slight and maybe just coincidence such as "I'd warm your tootsies up, they're always so cold" and "But still I knew I was your honey sugar dumpling" those are close to things in "morning song" from the 'Burns "taking the world by donkey" " Do you remember when you took all those classes? All those crazy gadgets you would fix I hated how cluttered our apartment was I hated our landlord Harry, he was such a dick When I was with ya " That reminds me of "pitbull" from the burns cd "morning wood" with harry and gadgets and such.. still kinda obscure and such "Do you remember when we went to Mexico and stayed in that cute little place We were honin' our fine love-makin' skills and you tattoed "I love you" on your face When I was with ya" Okay, so the mexico thing is not from a song, but kinda reminds me of "rosarita's resort" from the drug bust story. and the "honin' our fine love'making skills" is similar to a line from "this flood" off of the burns cd "mommy, I'm sorry" "I still remember the last time that I saw you You left me with a hotdog in my hand Was it cause I didn't want a pickle or was it a pretty senorita Oh well, there was always stuff that I didn't understand When I was with ya" Okay, well, both Jewel and Steve mention "hotdogs" in a couple of songs... off hand: Steve: War (taking the world by donkey) nows not the right time for love (taking the world by donkey) and for jewel Marital Carnival and not to mention, hotdogs are kinda EDA lore anyway... So while the references to Steve (and burns) is obscure, it is there, but is there anything behind that? Or maybe I've just been listening to the burns too much lately =) anyway, ya'll take care rowdy ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #704 ***************************