From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #637 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, October 26 1999 Volume 04 : Number 637 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "Presence" * OR * go to the Atlantic Records site at http://www.atlantic-records.com * and go to the "On Tour" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- * Jewel Criticism {Why ?} ["Gilbert Grape" ] * Jewel [Fredsteve@aol.com] * Jewel on VH1 [Poofoo545@aol.com] * Re: Have some consideration people. [EVMsRed@aol.com] * Jewel in IN STYLE [KCB1875@aol.com] * Country or rock? ["Aimee -" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:52:24 GMT From: "Gilbert Grape" Subject: * Jewel Criticism {Why ?} O.K. Maybe I should start off by telling you some about me. When I was younger I was in school. I was always the smallest, the weakest, and the smartest in my class. I spent the first part of my school career trying to find friends, then later to find some people who would tolerate me. Eventually I started reading books, I escaped into them. And I grew a callus on my soul. I was very proud of that for a long time. You could call me any name, say absolutely anything about me. I learned to endure all manner of physical abuse. I was not human, I felt no pain. When I was a Sophmore I was still only 5'4", still puny and weak. That summer I grew 5 inches, and when I came back to school people treated me differently, the physical abuse stopped, and most of the verbal as well. I had no real clue why, but I didn't ask to many questions. I went out into the real world, and over time I became aware of a difference between me and everyone else. I seem to feel less to be impacted less by events than most other people. I still had the callus on my soul, it was still doing it's thing making the world less real keeping me safe from the slings and arrows of the world. One night I was up watching "The Late Show with David Letterman" { I've always been a night person, fewer people around to bother you at 3 in the morning.} Any way the guests where finished and it was time for the musical act. Well some Blonde Chick comes out, and starts singing and that was enough of that, so I start flipping channels. Now most times I get fairly bothered by the fact that we have only 3 channels here, But this is one time I was thankful. I flipped thru the other channels, both of them, and then I went back to Letterman. I was floored, here's this Blonde Chick singing her heart out, and it was just so real, so powerful. I felt it like a Two by Four to the head, I just sat there and stared, as she sang. Then I started to cry. She was just that good. Fast Forward some. The present. I get back from a trip, and my mailbox is stuffed with mail about how she is not the right shape, is wearing the wrong clothes, how tired she looked, she must be a pagan, questions about a ring that were answered on the list a mere two Months ago. And I can't believe my eyes. The world has seen fit to give us this gift, this beautiful woman who's very power is her reality, and we start trying to make it over into a Stereotypical media Fantasy. I come here in an effort to surround myself with human beauty. The kind that will pray for a 12 year-old hit by a car, and donate marrow to a baby they don't know, Instead I find myself in the worst part of High School again. So I now have a choice. I can either abandon the list, or I can stand up and try to herd it back in the right direction again. So stop it. I don't care what cliche you have to take to heart, just don't tear her down any more. Every little bit you remove intentional or not leaves that much less for the ones who cherish all of her. Don't give her any reason to grow a callus on her soul, or worse still, disappear back into the wilderness, and wall herself away from the world. To put it another way, you may not need her in your life, but I need her in mine. I would truly hate to lose one of the things that remind me every day that I too might be human again one day. --me _____________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:30:00 EDT From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: * Jewel You know what? it's hilarious. every time jewel appears on some tv show this whole discussion about jewel starts up. it happened with the letterman (DSL) earlier this year. with the leno (DSL) and with the Letterman for Juptier.. and now it's happened again with this recent appearance on Leno. has jewel changed? is she pregnant? is she too fat? why does she wear too much makeup? that skirt is beyond hideous! blah blah.. As for her weight, whatever. it'll go up and down. she's been on tour all year and i'm sure she hasn't had much time for working out. that's trivial. as is her clothes and her makeup. and as for Jewel CHANGING as everybody constantly discusses. obviously she has changed. she would be boring if she didn't. she will always change. however it's her career and not ours. these decision are hers to make. if you think that having a setlist for her live performances is bad then that's fine. that's your opinion. but frankly she has chosen to have a setlist because she knows people are going to want to hear material from her albums. she has legions of fans that aren't EDA's and she needs to please them as well as us. she can't play new material every night because people wouldn't be satisfied if they didn't hear Hands and Foolish Games before they left. that's her choice. if she wants to do a christmas album then great. she can do that. i'll buy it because i support her as an artist and i love her voice (even though most christmas songs make me wretch). if sean and others wanna not buy it that's up to them. again, it's her choice. having a holiday CD doesn't make her any less CREDIBLE. how could it? she worked with a legendary producer to create a cd of classic songs as well as some original stuff. that's perfectly credible. whether you like it or not is your opinion. she has to have the right to do whatever she pleases and make whatever right choices or mistakes that she feels free to make. in the broad scheme of things there are always going to be things that jewel does that not everyone agrees with. but she has to make those decisions, not us. if you support her as an artist then you'll accept those projects that you don't agree with and wait for something you like. but i think the fact that we can all agree on is that she is a legitimate artist. she's for real and she's here to stay. she wants to be doing this forever. let's all just support her as an artist. this discussion about her changing is getting redundant. sure she's changed. accept it. there's no point arguing. but there's no point everybody constantly complaining about the new jewel. it doesn't help anything. just support what she wants to do musically. it's jewel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:55:16 EDT From: Poofoo545@aol.com Subject: * Jewel on VH1 Hey there angels, I have a quick question. Did anyone see the episode of VH1's Before They Were Rock Stars with Jewel on it? She does this song for a talent scout, but they only show the begining. It starts off like: When I was a baby my momma sat me down on her knee She said, You sure are cute girl, but I can't see that you'll be An angel, a heartbreaker, and all hell broke loose ... Well, to get to the point of this message, I have to do an audition for music school, and I thought this song was beautiful but I don't know the lyrics or tablature, let alone the name of the darn song. So, does anyone know anything about this song or where I can out more about it? Thanks so much, Emily (the blue angel) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:19:02 EDT From: EVMsRed@aol.com Subject: * Re: Have some consideration people. In a message dated 10/25/99 6:21:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time, carsonlvr9@hotmail.com writes: >Okay once again the airhead angel speaks *evil laugh* > Well...we all say let's stop criticizing Jewel...but let us remember a > famous quote from the gem herself: > "What we call human nature in actuality is human habit." > I think it's human "habit" to pick a person apart, and inspect her, find all > the little faults, and while nobody would ever say it to her face, soon as > she turns around she'll be ripped to shreds again. You know what it's > called? GOSSIP! And with a list of so many people on it, it's bound to > happen. And sure we can try to stop it. Mike can stop posting all the "bad" > Jewel posts. But then what discussion will be left on this list? It'll be > all when we discovered Jewel stories and Calendar events. And when we finally > do watch the events, we'll have to lie and say how great we loved Jewel just > to get our names seen when in reality we think to ourselves I wish she would > just pull her shirt down! Controversy adds spice to the list, and we should > be free to say what we want, as long as it doesn't get too out of hand. So > long live Jewel and her cute little belly! > Smile always, > Carolyn aughh!! ok, i'm really new to this list, this is my first post, but from what i've seen so far, i'm not that pleased. i don't think that "picking jewel apart" is what we're supposed to be doing. i saw the leno thing, i didn't even notice the pooch. and WHO THE HELL CARES ANYWAY?!?!?! as others have said, eda's are supposed to be fans of jewel, i don't think that gossipping about her is very respectful. she very well could be reading these letters, and i don't want to be a part of a group that's going to badmouth the person that they're supposed to be honoring. emily "the wailing angel" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:50:05 EDT From: KCB1875@aol.com Subject: * Jewel in IN STYLE Hey all, There is a picture of Jewel with Ang Le and the cast of RWTD on page 258 ( I think thats the page, those mags never put the page #) of the November issue of IN STYLE with antonio Banderas and Melanie Grifith on the cover. C Ya, KC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:51:40 CDT From: "Aimee -" Subject: * Country or rock? Hmmm.You know I hear Jewel's next CD will probably eitehr be rock or country.I think she would sound great either way,but I would really love to see more of the "rocker girl" side of Jewel.LMJLMA is a testament that she can rock! I do love her country style,but I'm going for rock.How about you guys? LEts hear some opinions :) Are there any plans in the works for a 3rd album for Jewel? Like around what year it would be realeased,etc..Alan maybe you know ? THanks angels. Aimee *The Dutch guy lovin angel* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #637 ***************************