From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #499 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, August 23 1999 Volume 04 : Number 499 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "Presence" * OR * go to the Atlantic Records site at http://www.atlantic-records.com * and go to the "On Tour" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- * jewelstock [Courtney M Gordon ] * NJC: Wooo, A Little Help Here ( please read ) [Nikki N White ] * Re: Jewelstock...again [RowdiusEDA@aol.com] * Jupiter...swallow the moon single. [Nicholas Wong ] * Re: Jewelstock...again. Impossible? Are we defeatists? [Sean35RL@aol.co] * Jupiter single/CD5 ["annie amelia" ] *Jupiter ["Jennifer" ] * Re: Jewelstock...again. Impossible? Are we defeatists? [JffeePooh@aol.c] *tickets for birmingham show?? [Sarah Rucker ] * Jewelstock?! Is she too famous now? [BluQQdDvl@aol.com] * Jewelstock and what EDA really means [Seth Fulmer Subject: * jewelstock Dear Angels, Okay, i am all for another Jewelstock if one is ever held again. But, I was just thinking about how people were saying there should be another with Jewel and us because we mean something to her, and such. I'm sure we do, but what makes us any different from your average Jewel fan? love and luck always Courtney the super hero hyper spastic angel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:50:33 -0700 From: Nikki N White Subject: * NJC: Wooo, A Little Help Here ( please read ) I asked how had a recording or taping of Jewels San Francisco show and a nice guy told me he did. I lost your e-mail in my flood of others. Could that nice guy resurface and help me again? I'd be really really obliged. Love You All, Nikki ( the forgetful, mind losing, unorganized, but still ) *~*~*The Angel Watching The World Around Her*~*~* " We seem to forget the things that are most important. I guess they aren't really all that important than . " ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:17:21 GMT From: "Amanda Sharp" Subject: * Re: Jewelstock...again Hrm... Ok. I know i am most likely going to get alot of slack about this. Yes. I agree that organizing and even pulling off another Jewelstock would be rather difficult, if not completely outta the questions. However, i must have missed something. Just because we are jewel fans ( or whatever spiritual word you want to choose) doesn't mean we cant love her. I have continuously read things about these concerts, or about jewelstock. Lets get real guys. Yes she is busy, yes she is hugely famous now.. but that doesn't means he doesn't love us the same anymore. I have heard her on more than one occasion saying how sometimes she just wants to give up, but eda's keep her going strong. She doesn't do it for the fame, and the lights, and the fans. She does it because she loves it. she does it because she knows she means something to us. so rather than whining because she isn't as intimate as she once was... HELLO that was 5 years ago. She is finally getting where she wants to be. She is sending a msg to people. she is touching lives. So i personally feel we need to stop complaining about how awful things are because shes not as intimate, or cause she is getting to famous. Come on :o) it's jewel. We need to be happy, and support her as we are doing now.. and will continue to do. I also know that just cause we support a person doesn't mean that we completely worship her and cant live our own lives. as this email tended to give the impression with W1ggy2@aol.com wrote >>Most of all, and at the risk of sounding like a bad Hallmark >card.....make YOURSELF the star of your own life! Then you won't feel like >you have to put so much faith in Jewel (or anyone else, for that matter). also w1ggy2@aol.com wrote So, why do you think 300 people came from all over the country to Bearsville, NY? For a Jewel concert? No, as I said, there has been no dearth of those. Because it was free? No, the expenses of the trip far exceeded the cost of a ticket. Because there would be lots of other EDA's there? YES!!! ummm but again i missed something. All of us eda's are here for one reason... Jewel right? So yeah, we can all get together and be together and love each other.. but Jewel is why we are here to begin with. without her there would be no eda's ok... not that im super craby and tired. im going to go turn my cd player way up and clean :o) get some aggression out. Love you guys! Amanda the Undecided angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:15:36 EDT From: RowdiusEDA@aol.com Subject: * Re: Jewelstock...again EDAs, Hmm, another Jewelstock? Aye, to be able to watch Jewel with many other EDAs would be a great experiance indeed... Or rather a great dream. A dream that will prolly never be realized... Amy is right. I doubt there will ever be another Jewelstock. And we do not need one. Our numbers have grown, and so have our egos somewhat. We all feel specail, and like somehow we are apart of Jewel. The last time I was around some other EDAs we talked about us being snobby (ya know, when someone mentions something about jewel, and ya expound upon the comment, naming at least three unreleased songs, four bits of uncommon knowledge, etc)... but remember, while some of us have shared time with Jewel (and quite a few more with Steve), really the list is still just "semi-offical".... It is more than just Jewel. Once you have been to a EDA get-together the list will never feel the same. The list is a family (though getting to be a big one) and though we were all brought together by Jewel, now it has become so much more. I love my EDA friends here in Texas and points north... The last time i was with EDAs of course we talked of Jewel, but not as much as one would think.. we talked of our lives, and basically just bonded (songs from "The Wizard of Oz" will never be the same, but that is another tale) ____ Anyway, I have gotten off task here, and am getting sleepy, but all I was trying to say is: enojoy being with EDAs, they make really good friends!!! anyway, off to bed with me.. ______ BTW, I still have not been able to print out the EDAF form, as that my printer is on vacation, and none of my friends own 'puters, so if someone would be willing to print it for me, I could pay postage, and perhaps offer my first born... anyway, take care Rowdy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:49:37 +1200 From: Nicholas Wong Subject: * Jupiter...swallow the moon single. I finally heard it on the radio. Jewel's new single, jupiter. Very very waltzy and i like how she holds that note for moon. (Yes i know New Zealand is a little behind with everyone else) I wonder what the cover looks like for the single. Nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:21:38 EDT From: Sean35RL@aol.com Subject: * Re: Jewelstock...again. Impossible? Are we defeatists? As much as I respect Amy's (W1GGY's) sentiment, I heartily disagree with her about her opinions of "another Jewelstock." Why would you want to nip this kind of thread in the bud? By doing that there is NO chance of one. I know chances are minimal anyway, but it was one EDA (Duff) back in 96 who said, hey wouldn't it be cool if Jewel did a private concert for us. So for one EDA to post to the list now that they are in favor of a second Jewelstock is no crime. Yes her fanbase is enormous compared to what it was then. But that's hardly relevent, a second Jewelstock would be for EDAs only with maybe one guest allowed per person. And yes, even then, there are what, 2,000 or so EDAs now. But due to location alone that would eliminate at least half the EDA population. So we're down to 1,000 people, and that's tops. Even if they ALL brought guests the numbers for barely be 2,000. There are lots of smallish, affordable venues that can handle that. The only thing is this time Jewelstock wouldn't be free. Would any of us have a real problem paying 50-100 bucks to see a Jewelstock? One thing Amy said that really irked me was how she said that Jewel has been touring almost constantly for the last 5 years and that if you wanted to see her you had the opportunity. Come on now, let's be realistic. Those of us who were at Jewelstock know it's almost ridiculous to compare it to a "normal" concert. How many normal concerts are performed in total silence and contain 95% unreleased songs. Night one of Jewelstock she played, what, 30-something songs and only two from her album. To call Jewelstock a "Jewel concert" does Jewelstock a great disservice. Also, Amy inferred that people came to Jewelstock to meet other EDAs. I disagree with that as well. I for one came to hear a wonderful musician perform a show in a small, intimate setting where I knew the audience would be quiet and respectful. No screaming teenagers, no annoying sexist frat-boys, no people who know only three songs. So to say I could somehow get the feeling of Jewelstock at an EDA gathering is way off. So, a second Jewelstock is only impossible if people on the list give up hope. I don't think giving up hope is what this list is about. I realize that one would be difficult to organize. But there the larger number of EDAs is a help as well as a nuisance. Although more people creates more logistical problems, it is also a much greater pool of people who can be used to help make a 2nd Jewelstock a reality. The first Jewelstock was organized by, basically, three people. Mike, Akira, and the 3rd person I forget his name. They had help from Lenedra and Hiranya and that was basically it. A 2nd Jewelstock would require a lot more manpower(or womanpower) and a lot more hours put in planning it. That's a reality, not an impossibility. So in my opinion, nipping Jewelstock 2 trends in the bud is a horrible idea. It is something that should always be in the back of our minds. I for one am getting tired of seeing Jewel in 20,000 seat amphitheaters. Who knows, maybe she gets sick of performing in them once in a while too. I'm sure she would appreciate the respectful audience she would get at a second Jewelstock along with the chance to get back to her roots and perform a primarily acoustic/folk type show. That's my two cents, Sean Hooks Amy(W1GGY) wrote:> >"Guys, let's nip the "Let's Have Another JewelStock" thread in the bud right >now. The fact is, there won't be another JewelStock. When Jewel kindly agreed >to do a free show for EDA's several years ago, she was still a relative >unknown. Out of my friends, maybe 2 had even heard of her. There were at the >most 300 EDA's subscribed to the list. There are now, I believe, somewhere in >the vicinity of 2,500. She also has millions of fans who aren't EDA's. It >would be logistically impossible to organize, even if Jewel was interested. > >But mainly I want to say YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT!! Think about this for a >minute: Jewel has been touring this country steadily for the past 5 years. >Anyone who truly has wanted to see her, or wants to see her now, can go to a >concert somewhere, even if it involves some travelling. So, why do you think >300 people came from all over the country to Bearsville, NY? For a Jewel >concert? No, as I said, there has been no dearth of those. Because it was >free? No, the expenses of the trip far exceeded the cost of a ticket. Because >there would be lots of other EDA's there? YES!!! That's why JewelStock was so >special and that's why there is a reunion in Bearsville every year. We don't >need Jewel to have a "JewelStock". We just need each other. Luckily, we have >that! If you want to experience the feeling of JewelStock, go to a gathering! >Get involved! Join the EDAF! There are things happening every day. If there's >not one near you, then make one! Organize a gathering; hold a Living Room >Concert! Most of all, and at the risk of sounding like a bad Hallmark >card.....make YOURSELF the star of your own life! Then you won't feel like >you have to put so much faith in Jewel (or anyone else, for that matter). > >:-) >Amy" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:47:43 -0500 From: "annie amelia" Subject: * Jupiter single/CD5 << Does anyone know why it is called a "CD5 Maxi Single"??? Is there something else on the cd? >> I'm pretty sure the only reason that they call it a CD5 Maxi Single is because it has more than one track and it comes in a jewel-case. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ' We are loved beyond our ability to comprehend. ' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:54:48 +1000 From: "Jennifer" Subject: *Jupiter If Jupiter was released so worldwide, then where the hell is it? I've been to about four CD stores- they've never heard of it. I've never heard it on the radio. When the fuck is it going to be played in Australia???????? I got up at 6 am to see it on the video clip shows-NOTHING. Come on! If it was supposed to be released worldwide, I'd like to know what's happened to Australia in that world! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:39:24 EDT From: JffeePooh@aol.com Subject: * Re: Jewelstock...again. Impossible? Are we defeatists? I have to agree with Sean that I think it would be a, I almost want to say redeaming experience for Jewel and the EDA. Because I don't think that the regular screaming of "We Love You Jewel" during Angel Standing By really does anything for her. I think it would be quite spiritual for those of us who just missed the original Jewelstock, and it would remind her how much we love her. Perhaps I'm speaking too much on the behalf of someone I can't say I know, but we all know that we feel almost apart of her. I think that if nothing else it's worth a shot to put together. The worst that could happen is it would be shot down. However, I think that it would mean a lot to Jewel just us tryin gto put another Jewelstock together. Jeff The Angel of Corn (The Iowan Angel) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:41:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Rucker Subject: *tickets for birmingham show?? attention fellow eda's!!!!!!!! i'm a student at mississippi state which some of you know to be a very short distance from birmingham, alabama. so i was wondering if anybody could help my little procrastinating self and hook me up with tickets (like 2) for the show tomorrow night at oak mtn. ???? please? school just started and i had drumline camp for the past two weeks, leaving me with hardly enough time to catch my breath and time just slipped away. if any one has an extra ticket or tickets they want to sell (or, gasp! just give away???) please please email me! my address is ser1@ra.msstate.edu or DeloresJK_69@yahoo.com so if you can please let me know something today so i can plan to skip band practice and class tomorrow to drive there. also, just in case i'm lucky enough to get to go, any other eda's gonna' be there? just wondering! email me! thanks ya'll. love, sarah "the kickin' angel" ps. hey debbie!!!!!!!!! :) === "Love bravely, live bravely, be courageous. there's really nothing to lose. there's no wrong you can't make right again..." --Jewel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:54:38 EDT From: BluQQdDvl@aol.com Subject: * Jewelstock?! Is she too famous now? Hi everyone, I just wanted to throw my $.02 in here. I am sure it would be rather difficult to put together another Jewelstock but it is not impossible. And no we don't know if Jewel would be interested in doing it BUT we can not say i is because of her fame. I just wanted to share this with you. I am also on a mailing list for Gloria Estefan....(my other favorite singer!)....anyway it is the conga list. I have met some of my best friends on that list....we are all a big family kind of like this. Well this past March we decided to have a huge get together down in Miami to meet each other...it was Conga Bash'99. People from all over the world came to this to meet. When we went we knew Gloria knew about this because she was invited but we didn't think she'd show up. Well part way through her son came to DJ........and then the greatest moment ever Gloria showed up. She just mngled and met evryone. She owned the hotel we had it at so she also took care of the bill. Now this is one classy celebrity....she's been famous for more then 15 years and she still took the time to get together with us. She answers our e-mail when she can. Anyway I am not saying that Jewel would be a bad person if she didn't want to do this I am just saying it is possible. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:48:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Fulmer Subject: * Jewelstock and what EDA really means Ok Angels, Why does everyone want Jewelstock so much?! As Amy noted, if you want to see Jewel in concert, go to one of her Spirit tours. What are you looking for in Jewelstock? You're not going to get much more than a simple concert at Jewelstock probalistically. Yeah, ok...so she'll address and refer to "the EDAs" more often. WoopedyDoo! It's not like we're a cult, but rather just interested in Jewel's(and other's) music. Consider what "EDA" means. Sure, literally it means "Everyday Angel", but it's WAY more than that! To be an EDA, you don't just have to have an interest in Jewel, and you don't have to have an interest in Jewel at all! You don't have to be part of some mailing list or organization to be an EDA. I have people on my ICQ come on that have found me in the White pages that ask me "What is EDA", and I honestly don't know what to tell them without going into a 2 and a half hour lecture. We're a community of music lovers. Admittedly, the list topics are primarily Jewel, but we've also recently added Steve Poltz to that list. We(or a good majority of us I'd like to say) like to help other people. Also, we like to have a good time. This explains the EDA gatherings I've been to. Just consider what being an EDA is and what you would want in a "Jewelstock". Then think about what from that you do NOT get from concerts, and gatherings. Just a thought. Now I'm going back into my rabbit hole to sleep another few months. Take care and Have a Great Day! :o) Seth D. Fulmer mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #499 ***************************