From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #372 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, July 3 1999 Volume 04 : Number 372 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "Presence" * OR * go to the Atlantic Records site at http://www.atlantic-records.com * and go to the "On Tour" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- * Special australian cd set = cool ["michiel" ] * old school Jewel [Julia Dunisch ] * Re: Yo Go Mike! /My two centes. [AnonimusHH@aol.com] Re: *New song? [Gerrit ] * let her be [Jessica Weissbuch ] * NJC: Woodstock '99! [Mike Thiel ] Re: *New song? [ABershaw@aol.com] * Why is it that nobody gets the point ??? [Cris Eichler ] Re: * New policies for ALL Jewel concerts/appearances [Rowdy A White ] * NJC: to PA, DC, NC, & SC EDAs [Jessica Maki ] * You're gonna hate me for this question [FragilStar@aol.com] * NJC: why you dating that golds gym guy [FragilStar@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 19:53:50 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: * Special australian cd set = cool hello Jewelfans, The latest release of Jewel's cd Spirit is a real cool one. The Australian cd set has a full enchanced cd part, where you can read a biography from Jewel and some pressclippings. And more important you can really watch the videos Hands (in the end only kindness matters.....i will get down on my knees and pray...my hands are small i know, they are not yours, they are my own......!!!) and Down so long. They also included on the second set a beautiful accoustic version of Jewel singing Deep water ! This was completely awesome. Hear Jewel sing this song accoustic on the cd, and they included also the song Foolish games of Jewel. So definitely a cool item to add to your Jewelcollection, and i shall recommend you to do that :-) Take care, Michiel a dutch Jewel fan and founder of two dutch eda tapes from Jewel's tour in Europe may 99. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:25:17 PDT From: Julia Dunisch Subject: * old school Jewel Does anyone know where I can get some of Jewel's early demo tapes (i.e. phylis barnabe gets a bra, ect.) or is anyone who has them willing to make me a copy? Please help me! Julia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:30:16 EDT From: AnonimusHH@aol.com Subject: * Re: Yo Go Mike! /My two centes. hi ya'll! i have commented before on jewel's differing image. the plain fact is that i adore coffee house-eque, well, anything. it is very honest and full of heart. two things that i think music should be made up of. i fell in love with her when i read an article about the gorgeous girl smiling shyly with angel wings strapped on her back. then i heard "who will save your soul" and i was a jewel fan from then on. that was back in 95 or 96 ((failing memory)). she is always going to be the same as she was before. so what, peoples music change with thier moods and perceptions. i know as being an artist and musician myself. these all reflect on how your creations sound and how you look and sound. jewel has always been honest and sweet (an odd mixture). but it works. i think she is still amazing. she always will be i think. i just think that everyone is dwelling too much on her "change". who cares? it's just the way that she is right now. if you had all that money and could get away with anything to an extent, you probably would too. the tattered angel---eric webster "i'm not like them but i can pretend"-kurt cobain "pieces of us die everyday..."-jewel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 14:49:10 -0700 From: Gerrit Subject: Re: *New song? Ami wrote: > Last night at the Jewel show, Jewel started a song and called it "new" yet, I > was looking at my Jewelstock Tapes and realized the song she played, Grey > Matter, must be pretty old, at least 3 years. Why would she say that? She does that. She said the same thing for Down. If it's not been released yet, she'll say "new". If she hasn't played it more than like 10 times, she may say she hasn't played it before. :P I guess she figures we're not as fanatic as we are. ;> Gerrit ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:49:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Jessica Weissbuch Subject: * let her be hi everyone, i have been on the list for some time know but i have never writen to it... so i hope i am doing this right. ok all i really want to say is that jewel is a person just like you and me. she has every right to change. everyone changes with time. all it means is that she is growing. i always thought the point of the list was to be a fan not a critic of how she dresses or what order her concert is in. the reason i am a EDA and i belong to this list is because i love jewel for the person she is and that means how she use to be and how she has changed. not that i think she has changed all that much. i love her music and her spirit. thank you for listening to me. jess ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 18:21:52 -0400 From: Mike Thiel Subject: * NJC: Woodstock '99! Me and a friend really need a ride to Woodstock ... if you're in Ontario and have extra room in your car, e-mail me back, please! Thanx. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 19:09:54 EDT From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: Re: *New song? Ami asked: > Last night at the Jewel show, Jewel started a song and called it "new" yet, I > was looking at my Jewelstock Tapes and realized the song she played, Grey > Matter, must be pretty old, at least 3 years. Why would she say that? Then Gerrit wrote (& I agree): >She does that. She said the same thing for Down. If it's not been >released yet, she'll say "new". If she hasn't played it more than like >10 times, she may say she hasn't played it before. :P I guess she >figures we're not as fanatic as we are. ;> >> I'd only add that EDAs often forget, that for the other 99+% of Jewel's audience, unreleased songs ARE NEW to them. ;-) Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:22:32 +0200 From: Cris Eichler Subject: * Why is it that nobody gets the point ??? Hi, Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk right, so why is it ? Why does nobody understand that the anger of people like Sean, me and I'm sure a lot of others doesn't have ANYTHING to do with our expectations being fulfilled or not ? I'm 'angry' because I don't believe for a nanosecond that this change of Jewel, that I would guess happened around the end of '97/ beginning of '98, really is the kind of evolutionary change that you guys rightfully call 'good and normal'. I believe that it rather was a very conscious business decision. "Right, what image do we want for Jewel in the future ?" What we see and hear now is the result of the answer to that question. Think about it. There has been an evolution taking place since POY, of course. Just listen to the Angelfood from that era ('95 - '97), most notably Jewelstock. You'll find songs like 'Nicotine Love', 'Last Dance Rodeo', 'Carnivore' or 'Just Passing Time' to name just a few. All of these were head and shoulders above the POY stuff, but still very much in it's tradition. Lots of evolution that made me shudder thinking about the next album or even about the music this woman would create 10 years further down the road. This development continued nicely up until the point in time I described above. Then, all of a sudden, we heard that the Bearsville recordings 'Don't reflect Jewel's current artistic direction' and whenever she appeared on TV from that point on you could hardly find her face under all the make-up. Suddenly she seemed to had to use her sex to sell her music.... Then along came 'Spirit'.... An album that contains none of the highlights from the 3 years before. But one that consists almost exclusively of easily digested and forgot radio food. And if there were, god forbid, still some rough edges left, well, Patrick Leonard took care of those. The result is an album that in terms of technique and musicianship sure is a huge step forward from POY... but then they decided not to fill the shiny hull with any kind of substance... My Angelfood still gets constant play... 'Spirit' is collecting dust. But, being the loyal soul I am, I still bought my ticket for the gig in Hamburg back in May, because 'Hey, Jewel's always better live..." And I have to say: I really loved Steve Poltz... :-) What I saw that day was an actor who played a part she seemed to hate. At least for most of the evening. The rock part was fun and, believe it or not, for the encore the old magic returned for 10 minutes... The bottom line is that the Jewel of '99 is lightyears away from the Jewel of '96 or '97. And I really don't think that anybody can seriously rate the current stuff higher than what she did in those days. 'What's simple is true, I love you' or 'Some birds abandon their young Cause the instinct is too strong to fly Well I feel like abandoning My guitar and my books and I'm afraid that I know why' and no, it's not the second quote that's the more recent....... 'So what ?" you ask "if you don't like her music, just go on with your life and search for another artist..." Well, now we're back to the only really interesting question in this whole thread: Is the Jewel we see now Jewel's OWN idea and concept of herself, or is it much rather her management's and/or record label's ?? If it's the former, I'd say 'it's been swell sweetheart' for as long as it lasted, but sorry 'I've mistaken you for somebody else' and I'd pack my bags and be out of the door before you know it. BUT... if it is the latter I will wait for the real Jewel to see the light of day again (Maybe an album that really bombs would help ?) That's what I think is the case and that's why I'm still around... Her management don't know what they do, as Mike sarcastically wrote the other day ? No, they know full well what they've got to do to be successful. The problem is their definition of success. They measure success by counting how many records they've sold when they really should measure it by how many hearts Jewel's touched, how many minds she has challenged and how many lifes she has changed.... THAT'S what's causing my 'anger' and I guess that's what's causing Sean's too. Sorry, that this has been so long. I don't post often, but when I do I just can't stop typing... ;-) Cheers ! Cris mailto:cris@bre.ipnet.de "But now every time that she performed Everybody cried for more, Soon all she had to do was step into the light, For everyone to start to roar. And all the people cried, 'You're the one we've waited for.' But time went by It wasn't so easy now, all uphill, and not feeling so strong. Yes times were hard, Too much thinking 'bout the future and what people might want. And then there was the time that she performed When nobody called for more And soon every time she stepped into the light, They really let her know the score. But she dreamed of the times when she sang her songs And everybody cried for more , When all she had to do was step into the light For everyone to start to roar. And all the people cried,'You're the one we've waited for.' " <-Genesis--Duchess--1980 - when Jewel was 6...> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 19:22:18 -0400 From: Dustin Mullendore Subject: * True beauty Greetings fine people, My name is Dustin and I'm a Buddhist man from the united states. I'd just like to give you all a little background before I make my point. I became a buddhist a few years ago after being thoroughly disgusted with the values in my country. Now I wont get too preachy here and please realize I am only trying to help. Lets think about some of the things that have been said and implied, are they fair? Is the most important thing about a person what color their shoes are? Now ive been a devoted jewel fan for many years now and i have always admired her strength of spirit and the warmth of her heart and obviously her art shows this. Now I may not like every little thing jewel says or does but guess what? thats just fine because everyone of us is different and that is what makes this world so flavorful. Can we think more about the simple truth here? peace my friends...peace ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 19:39:37 -0700 From: Rowdy A White Subject: Re: * New policies for ALL Jewel concerts/appearances EDAs, Well, I'm still in Paris (texas) with no email access.. so I have not read much, but I did catch Mike's new policies.... Well, I think either Dennis or I am rubbing off on Mike, as that I would expect posts like that from dennis or myself... but I am troubled with this... First of all, with Jewel now performing on every planet in the solar system... Well that only confirms my claims that she is an evil alien out to take over Earth. You all laughed and scorned me when I brought that up, but now I have even more proof!!! Amy will back me up on this, as that she helped with my initial research. Now for my next protest... Why does Sean get a say in what Jewel does, and that I do not? I have fought for Jewel on many occasions, I constantly call the radio station here in Paris to demand that they play her (I even use different voices and names to increase demand).. I have completed research concerning the "take over the world plot" and of plywood animals... I also have risked injury and incarceration climbing the pole outside my house to turn my cable on, so I can watch her on TV. I have even fought with Sean about Jewel going to Singapore and flogging.. I have done my part, and I want my reward. I demand that the EDA council give me some control over Jewel, or next Friday at the Dallas concert I will don my climbing gear and 35KVA gloves and disconnect the power that will be recharging her ship that will carry her back to her home planet after she brainwashes us...(plus, without power, how will the stage lights work, so ya'll won't be able to see her either!!!) The Council has until Thursday to answer my demands. ________ Really though, as for Dallas, I should be there (though my ticket will likely be for section 5000 where I won't be able to see anything, and that the sound will take several minutes to reach me... What are the other EDAs doing to set themselves apart, so that we'll know who is out there? I have not a EDA shirt, so that is not an option... I'll only have email access until Sunday or monday, so I'll not be able to answer any emails much longer.... That is about all.... Other than Life is good, but I miss the list.. hope to see Amy, Dennis and the rest in Dallas... Take care Rowdy Just playing Hide and Seek for $1,000 a week ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 20:32:26 -0700 From: "li'l waternymph" Subject: * Tickets for New Orleans? Hi everyone, if anyone has an extra ticket for new orleans, write me immediately! i have a very eager eda who wants to trek across the south with dennis harris, amy and i. thanks in advance luna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 19:10:43 PDT From: Jessica Maki Subject: * NJC: to PA, DC, NC, & SC EDAs Hi east coasters! I'm travellin out to the east coast in 9 days (7-12), and I'll be going to: York, PA; WASH DC; Raleigh & Chapel Hill, NC; Columbia, SC....... So, I was wondering for all you girls n boys out there had any radio stations in those areas ya could recommend me, so I'll have somethin GOOD to listen to in case if I'm stuck in some long car trips.. :) Since I KNOW you have good taste (I mean, you like Jewel! and Poltz/Rugburns for some of you!) I figured I'd ask, so I wouldn't have to spend so much time station surfin'. Thanks! :) - --Jessica *aim/aol: poltzgrrrl *page: http://surf.to/paleblue *icq: 3872338 'I am so desperate/I am writing you this song/ And you're so vain/You probably think this song is about you' --Jewel, "My Own Private God's Gift To Women" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:39:46 EDT From: FragilStar@aol.com Subject: * You're gonna hate me for this question Many apologies right off before i ask this...I dont mean to make anyone upset. I just have a quick question. I been off the list for a few years now and i just came back. I was wondering about the refrences to god that are made so many times in the new CD. My question is what is FOR A FACT not a guess....what is jewels religion? I think the way she refers to him is beautiful and I am well without religion and I like the way she speaks of him. Please E-mail me personally with your reply lets not make other list members angry droning on the subject.... sarah ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:43:10 EDT From: FragilStar@aol.com Subject: * NJC: why you dating that golds gym guy LOL steve was just awsome at the portland show. I was wondering where i could get a copy of the song: why you dating that golds gym guy and the ABC song...I laughed so hard. Jewel was truly magnificint as I knew she would be...i only wished my seats were closer....I was in the 121 section.... boohoo....but it was still fairly close..... sarah ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #372 ***************************