From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #343 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, June 23 1999 Volume 04 : Number 343 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "Presence" * OR * go to the Atlantic Records site at http://www.atlantic-records.com * and go to the "On Tour" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- * Re: the supposed "EDA concert" ["Kevin B. Pease" ] * jupiter on the radio - New Haven CT [Kiwi745@aol.com] * PLANET ROCK PROFILES [Andrew Fitzpatrick ] * Re: the supposed "EDA concert" ["TSUNAMI" ] * NJC:Gathering of Angels Weekend...EXPOSED!!!!!!!! [Jason Vierling Subject: * Re: the supposed "EDA concert" Caution: A long, opinionated letter follows. (So what else is new, from me? :) If you don't want to read it, delete it now. If you do want to read it, great, be my guest. I'm not writing this for my health. :) - -- Jamie (angeljlr98@aol.com) writes: > Due to all of the special guests coming Saturday (Elizabeth Hummell, Jason > Mraz, Nedra, the EDAFs and the HGH peeps), I was informed that after a > previous confirmation that I was, I won't be singing Saturday...only 2 EDAs > will. This is just complete b.s. [...] As somebody who isn't going to be there, regardless of who's playing, since I'm in sunny Massachusetts, I'd say I qualify as a fairly impartial observer, and I have to say, I think Jamie has a very legitimate complaint here... It's been interesting watching this concert evolve from a (and I'm quoting here from the first email sent out to the public about it...) "San Diego EDA concert and gathering", with "a number of performers including myself ( Rizioule ) and a handful of EDA musicians." At the beginning, there was mention of one "performance by a very special guest." Now it sounds to me like we've got an awful lot of special guests, and very few people in that "handful" of EDA musicians... last time I checked, 2 doesn't really constitute a handful... The only constant theme I've seen throughout all of the emails about these concerts has been the notification that "Rizioule will be playing." While I'm sure this wasn't a "plot" to get a bunch of people to show up just for himself, the arrangements just sound like they're becoming more and more self-serving, to me. If I were a struggling artist, rather than a software engineer, I know I'd jump at the chance to play with "bigger" names, too... but I think that, if you're going to bill it as an "EDA concert," that it should actually *be* an "EDA Concert" - not three "headlining" special guests and 2 "get-on-sing-get-off" performances by EDAs... Bumping people who have already been confirmed as having slots to perform is just plain bad form, regardless of who the "special guests" are. I don't care if *Jewel* decides to show up at the last minute and wants to sing, you don't bump people who have already been told they have performance time. Extend the length of the event if you want, or tell the "special guests", "Sorry, we're booked solid, maybe next time..." To do anything else (like what has already been done, apparently...) is, to me, remarkably unprofessional, disrespectful, and just plain rude. I don't know who "owns" this concert, in terms of organizing it & scheduling it (although I suspect it's Rizioule...), but, whoever you are, you could stand to learn a few lessons about common courtesy. If you'd be pissed off that someone did it to you, don't do it to someone else - simple as that. If I had been planning to go to this show, I think that, after hearing how somebody's treating the musical lineup, I'd probably decide to do something more constructive with my time, like stay home, sleep late, and wax my toes. (An exaggeration... but I think you get the point.) But, I guess on the bright side for the "special guests," they'll probably have a good sized audience, courtesy of the various EDA lists... is that self-serving? You betcha. Probably not intentionally... but I think somebody's thinking about number one at the expense of things like common courtesy. That's it, my 2 cents. If you don't like it, feel free to yell at me... I have thick skin, and I'm always open to differing opinions. If you do like it, you can yell at me, too, but I don't think I really see the point in doing that. :) Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net ICQ UIN: 3106063 AOL IM: kbpease http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease/ "... no I don't need a miracle / but I could use a push in the right direction..." ---(The Refreshments, "Interstate")--- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:17:36 EDT From: GiggleLily@aol.com Subject: * A few questions..... Hi, Angels! I bought "one left shoe" (Steve poltz's album for those who didn't know) today. I love it! If you don't already have it, I highly recommend it! Does Steve have any other albums out? I would love to buy them if there is. Is Jewel sing back up on the songs that she cowrote? It sounds a lot like her and I don't know why someone else would be singing. But I want to make sure because sometimes its hard to hear the back up voice. Well, if anyone out there can answer my questions please email me privately. Thanks a bunch! Rachel *the angel who feel in love with Steve poltz today* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:53:30 -0400 From: "Marylou Kunkle" Subject: * PLEASE READ yeah, yeah, you people have heard enough...but i just wanted to say that i finally saw the letterman performance, and i thought it was great. i LOVE the new version! it actually has a beat! :) j/j. i just really like it and i can't stand that people were completely bashing her and her look(which wasn't much different) and her new song...CALM DOWN! :) well gotta go love ya ~luba "The guitar-strummin, KoRn-lovin angel" NBL4YA <---(notin but love for ya) personal email: kornbizvana@kornfreak.com my jewel page: http://www.angelfire.com/la/jewelkilcher my other page: http://www.angelfire.com/pa/toneandkungfu Get your Free EDA E-mail at http://edangels.zzn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:10:04 EDT From: Kiwi745@aol.com Subject: * jupiter on the radio - New Haven CT Hi, this is my first post ever to this list, I don't have anything mad exciting but this made me happy so I thought I'd post it. My local radio station has this thing every night called Deathmatch, where they play two songs and people call in to vote for which one they like better and whichever on is the winner is played the next night against a new song. So tonight they had Jupiter agianst Blink 182. I was so excited that they were playing Jupiter on the radio that I felt compelled to act like I was 12 again and I called in and voted for Jewel. She ended up winning, so if anybody in the New Haven CT area wants to hear the new version if Jupiter, it will definitly be on KC101 (101.3) around 10:15 Thursday night. Ok, good night!! ~Claire the off key angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:37:14 +0100 From: Andrew Fitzpatrick Subject: * PLANET ROCK PROFILES Hello everyone, Details of our interview with Jewel, which will be first broadcast on the UK'S ITV Network on 29th June 1999, including a full transcript, are now available on our website - www.planetrock.net/demo Please note that the site is still under construction. It'll eventually have a lot more, including full audio and video copies of the interview. In the interim, everyone's invited to check it out and to send me their suggestions. Andrew Andrew Fitzpatrick - Chairman Planet Rock Ltd. European Office: US office: 47 Lower Leeson St. 849 11th St., Suite 102, Dublin 2 Santa Monica, Ireland CA 90404, USA Tel +353-1-6769887 +1-310-576-0820 Fax +353-1-6761259 +1-310-576-0897 Mobile +353-86-2455033 http://www.planetrock.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:43:14 -0700 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: * Re: the supposed "EDA concert" Hi all -- I've been reading the recent posts about the "EDA Concert" and checked out the web-site of "Rizioule" and there's some natural questions that arise from this promotion. Primarily, who is Rizioule?! I went to his/her web-site and also the pages for the concert that EDAs are expected to form the audience for, and there's big billing for three performers, Elizabeth Hummel, Jason Mraz and "RIZIOULE". Weird thing is there's bio info on Elizabeth Hummel, whom many of us know already, and there's also some bio background on Jason Mraz who says, "I've had the pleasure so far of opening up for such great bands as Gregory Page and the Troubled Sleepers, Carlos Olmeda and Toca Rivera, and soon to play with other great names of the area like, Elizabeth Hummel, Steve Poltz, Jewel and The Artist Rizioule." It doesn't say when Jason's playing with Steve and Jewel, but that's good progress landing such a gig! But there's absolutely no info on Rizioule!?! Does anyone know, and maybe "Rizioule" can help out too, has he/she actually played anywhere in S.D. where EDAs have attended before?! The site mentions 3 "Rizioule" CDs but there are no sound files -- has any heard any of these CDs or ever seen them?! It's unusual -- and I'd hate to think that anyone would try and exploit the EDA community for their own advancement. I'm sure with more info made available, it would be easier to understand what this is all about. Cheers, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Vierling Subject: * NJC:Gathering of Angels Weekend...EXPOSED!!!!!!!! Hi. I'm Jason. You've all heard from me before. It was a crazy idea I bounced off Riz that started this whole mess so I accept whatever blame people need satisfied. Cast your stones now..I have been thru (am going thru) worse. It has not been well established, but there are in fact 2 (two) concerts on Saturday. One day of music... 2 (two) shows...back to back...creating one near seamless experience. One show is ALL EDA talent. Period. Not fillers or by products...just one hundred percent (100%) pure EDA entertainment. The second is a showcase of the fabulous local talent pool that spawned the likes of Jewel and Steve Poltz amongst others. One great day of musical wonderment right on the beach and then we see Jewel...what could be simpler? I wouldn't be writing this email if things were that simple I suppose. In fact, it was these complications (overabundance of performers,events,fun,etc) that led to the creation of the second Irvine show. (That and we didn't have a Gathering thing goin for that day due to my current legal entanglements surrounding my house nuff said bout that!). I am not in agreement with the original material stipulation, but the point was made that it would eliminate haggling over covered material and eliminate kareoke performances. This concert since it's inception was about giving EDAs a first look at the emerging talent within our own group. Since it has been like pulling teeth to get anyone (with a few notable exceptions) to come forward with any real/clear presentaion of their abilities or intended setlists, I can't help but feel that this is a convenient way for those who might have been roped into performing against their will to get out of performing. I regret that the day on Saturday isn't the small little intimate flop that most know Gatherings to be, but this idea became an event of its own violition. No one was meant to be excluded or insulted, the only intent was to add more as the ability and opportunity arose. If anything, we stand before you guilty of no more than poor communication. We wanted this day to be a gift for all EDAs both in attendance and far away. That's all. Lori has been a marvel and Riz a dynamo trying to mold and contain into some workable design this beast that nearly slipped free its reins. And on their first try this line up is what they managed. This has been a learning experience for all and only better things will come. I will be the first to say this isn't what I originally hoped it would be. However, for what it is I couldn't be more excited. Whether you assemble to cast stones or hear great music, I hope to see you all in San Diego or another Gathering soon. === Take Care Angels, Jason "Damn proud to be the MC at this Gathering of Angels" V Arunsun on IRC & ICQ Arnsun on AOL IM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:04:54 EDT From: Harrisbros@aol.com Subject: * HGH/EDAF is chatting BEFORE the EDA Concert Saturday! :-) *** There are some concerns about this Saturday's San Diego "EDA Gathering/concert", and some apparent confusion as Jamie wrote: >Due to all of the special guests coming Saturday (Elizabeth Hummell, Jason >Mraz, Nedra, the EDAFs and the HGH peeps), I was informed that after a >previous confirmation that I was, I won't be singing Saturday...only 2 EDAs >will...Why even call this an EDA concert anymore?...The "EDA concert" has now >become "Special Appearance By." I figure by this weekend, the other 2 EDAs >who are playing are gonna get knocked off as well. Hell, they only get like >10 minutes anyway. SO how much time is booked anyway? >...and it's very inconsiderate to knock the whole concept of this >concert just to get a few famous names in. As Alan Bershaw (aka, MrBB) cannot read or send mail until he arrives in California tomorrow afternoon, I'm posting this to try to clear up a few things (from the HGH/EDAF viewpoint, anyway)... The ONLY involvement HGH, Lenedra and the EveryDay Angels Foundation have in this event is to show up and answer any questions EDAs may have about the two organizations. Then we plan on just enjoying the show like everyone else. The time slot of 12:00-1:00 PM was requested by our groups as NOTHING ELSE was scheduled to happen at the concert until 1:00 PM! If anyone was bumped off the show, it should have nothing to do with us. Personally, the only effect I can imagine that our groups' presence would have on the event would be to bring MORE EDAs to it, and provide the performers a full house. If there is a scheduling conflict between the performing artists and the promoters, that needs to be worked out. Again, personally speaking, I would love to hear as many EDAs perform as possible. I've been encouraging all the EDAs to each take front stage center for over three years now... :-) HGH, Lenedra and the EveryDay Angels Foundation simply want to let the EDAs know how they can become involved in making a difference. We have no intention of creating problems for anyone, and we were assured our "time slot" would not conflict with ANY pre-existing scheduling. In all fairness to Lori and Rizioule, organizing any large event is NOT easy, and it is hard to please everyone. But I hope they can somehow accomodate everyone's needs and let all these bright ideas and talents shine on a very special afternoon! Dennis Harris for The EveryDay Angels Foundation ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:08:56 EDT From: EDAFinfo@aol.com Subject: * EDAF UPDATE: A busy month ahead for EDAs! Many things are happening with the EveryDay Angels Foundation this summer... *** SOCAL EDA GATHERING TO ANSWER HGH/EDAF QUESTIONS *** As Alan Bershaw has already posted to the Jewel list, there will be a special EDA gathering scheduled for this Saturday (June 26th) at noon at a place called Newbreak On The Beach in Ocean Beach, San Diego. Later that evening Jewel will be performing her hometown gig at the Coors Amphitheater. During the first hour of the EDA gathering, staff from Higher Ground For Humanity and The EveryDay Angels Foundation will be on hand to chat with EDAs. Following this talk will be live musical performances by Elizabeth Hummel and guest EDAs. The "chat" is to give SoCal EDAs an opportunity to learn more about HGH and the EDAF. Lenedra Carroll (otherwise known as Jewel's mom, manager and co-founder of HGH) has confirmed that she will be joining us for the chat as well. Alan suggested folks get there early as space is limited and the Ocean Beach Street Fair will be going on that day. Tom, Amy and Dennis will be in San Diego during that week to meet with HGH staff and discuss possible future partnerships. With excitement on the Jewel list building this summer, we see a lot of potential EDAF volunteer activity expanding beyond the east coast area. *** ACTS OF EVERYDAY KINDNESS SCRAPBOOK IS FINISHED! *** The "Acts of Everyday Kindness" scrapbook was finished this past weekend, and will be shown to HGH and given to Jewel next weekend. The project was designed to honor acts of everyday kindness commited by EDAs across the world. In addition to being a vehicle to channel the desires of many inspired fans to give something back to their world in Jewel's honor, this project was also an excellent opportunity to see the differences people are currently making, and to help discern possible future project areas for the EDAF to focus on as a group. A digital version of the scrapbook will be made available soon. Thanks to everyone who participated in making it such a success! *** FALL CONCERT FOR ANTI-VIOLENCE *** The EDAF has plans underway to co-sponsor a fall concert in the Connecticut area. This concert would be held as an awareness-builder and fund raiser for both the EDAF and another non-profit whose mission is to promote anti-violence programs, most likely with a concentration on school-age kids. Several popular national acts are being considered, and the concert would also feature local independent musicians. We'll keep you posted as details are worked out! *** EDAF REPS TO BE AT JEWEL SHOWS, BEARSVILLE AND WOODSTOCK *** Amy and Dennis will be traveling down to the Dallas, Houston and New Orleans Jewel shows, so anyone in those areas please make an effort to meet us and say hello. Many EDAF'ers on this list will also be at the Bearsville campout on July 16th. The following week, EDAF'ers Dennis and Albert (our group webmaster), Chris and Eric will be attending the New York MacExpo show, so any Mac tech geeks should join us... That next weekend, many of us are going to Woodstock and staying in EDA Tent City! ;-) All in all, the next month is a whirlwind of activity, from San Diego, to Texas, to the Catskills, to New York City and then on to upstate New York for Woodstock! *** WELCOME TO THE NEWEST EDAF MEMBERS *** The EDAF would like to also welcome our newest supporting members: Chris Moynihan (Massachusetts), Elana Shugar (Canada) and David Trinh (Australia). Anyone wishing to work on any of the programs the EDAF has planned, or having suggestions for other programs, is encouraged to step forward and help make them happen! :-) Amy, Dennis and Tom for The EveryDay Angels Foundation ********************************************************* The EveryDay Angels Foundation is a non-profit public benefit corporation whose mission is to promote grassroots volunteerism and community involvement. The EDAF is online at www.EveryDayAngels.org and can be contacted via email at EDAFinfo@aol.com or by writing to The EveryDay Angels Foundation, PO Box 123, East Petersburg, PA 17520. ********************************************************* ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #343 ***************************