From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #140 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, March 17 1999 Volume 04 : Number 140 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jewel Spanish tour ["Dani Granche" ] Re: "Newbies" ["Janadell" ] Its nothing without LOVE :o) ["Janadell" ] Brissy Angels I have a question!!! [Louise ] Re: Vets, Community and who we are [James McGarry ] jewel in QLD [Laurie Boddy ] A Solution to complaints [Mike Carmona ] SJC: The recent debate, and a question [Seth Fulmer Subject: Jewel Spanish tour Hi angels, It's great to know Jewel will finally come to Spain on her tour. I will surely go to the Barcelona concert on June 6th, and I'm also thinking in going to the one in Bilbao on June 5th. So, I was wondering if there are any EDAs who are thinking in going to any of these concerts. I know that maybe it's too early to know if you will be able to come or not, but I only want to know if there's somebody who now it's thinking in the possibility of attend any of these concerts. I've never met any EDAs in person, so I will be happy to meet some of you. Besides, these concerts are on Saturday and Sunday, so if we're some EDAs who will go to them, maybe we will be able to arrange a "Spanish EDA weekend" :-) Let me know what you think, Dani Barcelona EDA friend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:23:15 +1100 From: "Janadell" Subject: Re: "Newbies" Hi there Of course you're not alone here! Dont just believe everything you read on the list because there are alot of ppl who dont post - the ppl who post are only talking about THEIR opinion (which they are entitled to), and reminiscing isn't meant to exclude others. It seems to me any "bitching" that has been done by vets or anyone else has been a little contagious. Dont take other ppls opinions too much to heart - we are all here because we are fans of Jewel, but some ppl i feel need to get a life (either that or they watch too many soap operas and need to create some drama) :o) Jewelfully yours janadell :o) *^*^*^*the barefoot angel*^*^*^* - -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie J Stratton To: jewel@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 4:46 PM Subject: "Newbies" >HEY EDAS! > I'm really new and so I guess I fit under the catogory of >"newbies". Now sit back and think about that; isn't that a little >critical and stereotypical? Us "newbies" love Jewel just as much as the >vets. The vets are acting very immature and are being very rude. Ya'll >aren't welcoming us. I mean, I don't know about other "newbies" but I >feel a little unwanted, like my opinion doesn't count because if how long >I've been on this board. Not all vets are acting immature, don't get me >wrong, you know who you are. And the vets are putting across the message >that the "newbies" aren't worthy of this board because of how long we've >been here. Well, aren't we a G-R-O-W-I-N-G C-O-M-M-U-N-I-T-Y? Don't we >need to ADD to this to make more people aware of JEWEL?!? I mean, we're >just bitching about ourselves. Let's NOT bitch. I don't know about other >"newbies", but I'm having second thoughts. >-RJ >P.S.- All ya'll newbies out there, write me! And ANYONE, write me. I want >to know if I'm alone or not. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:37:45 +1100 From: "Janadell" Subject: Its nothing without LOVE :o) Luuuuurrrrrrvvvvvvveeeee baby luuuuurrrrrvvvvveeee :o) *^*^*^*the barefoot angel*^*^*^* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:37:50 +1000 From: Louise Subject: Brissy Angels I have a question!!! Hey Angels, Just wondering if Steve still had my kangaroo...did anyone notice?? Please email me back. Thanx in advance... Louise, "the kindest Angel who kissed Steve and called Jewel nasty" "In the end only kindness matters" - Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:02:34 -0500 (EST) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: Vets, Community and who we are On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Santee wrote: > Now if I remember correctly(I believe it was crunch who said this), it > started as, "we were fans of Jewel, who ended up becoming fans of each > other." We seem to have lost a lot of the latter part of that quote now. I thought it was Larry G. ? :-) On that TV thingie... James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:51:24 EST From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MrBB-The ring (was Re:Brisbaine review...) In a message dated 3/17/99 1:23:15 AM, auschick1@theglobe.com writes: <> Hi all, Before Erin's post starts a landslide of speculation, I'll answer this. Jewel often holds hands with her friends as do many people on the J-Team. It's just something we like to do. Nothing more complicated than that. (By the way, we hug a lot, too.) The beautiful ring Jewel has been wearing the past few months was a gift FROM Atlantic Records & NOT an engagement ring, thus possibly explaining Steve's joking reference. Cheers, MrBB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:46:03 +1300 From: "Kim Lees" Subject: Jewel arrives in New Zealand!!! Yay!!! she's finally here!!! TV1 & TV3 just had a couple of short interviews with Jewel on her arrival at Auckland Airport... man I hope she looks as cute in real life as she did on TV!!! as usual TV1 chose Dylan Taite for the interview, probably the world's most cynical muso journalist, so that instantly cancelled out the possibility of her actually getting asked any serious questions in that interview... ...so there was nothing really ground-breaking... the usual "Alaskan-born" mistake, singing in bars with her dad... strangely none of the interviews mentioned her living in her van though!!! oh yeah, she said on the TV3 one that apparently her "first love" ran off with some New Zealander and they ended up living over here so she's hoping to track them down while she's here... :-) still another four days till she makes it to Christchurch and I (hopefully) get to meet her at the airport... :-) Kim Lees Your New Zealand Angel Standing By ICQ# 9270797 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ check out Kim's JEWEL Shrine... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/7485/jewel.html includes a Real Audio section of over 100 songs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "They always say, 'Hey, great kid, have a nice day Happy birthday, have a great day day' But it's all just fake anyway They need an excuse" Jewel Kilcher - "Need An Excuse" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:24:07 +1000 From: Laurie Boddy Subject: jewel in QLD g'day EDA's i've had the pleasure of hearing the greatest voice live for the past 2 nights, I've seen some of the greatest performers and will relive these superb experiences for a long time to come. I must thank Jewel and the band, especially Steve for affording us the opportunity in this previously starved country of ours. The wait was worth it, the money well spent and whilst it left me craving for more...it also left me content and feeling extra special to have witnessed these two special shows. The two Brisbane concerts were held at the beautiful concert hall where the accoustics are nothing short of dynamic. We managed a balcony seat on the first night and a centre row floor seat the following night. An Australian performer, Lou Bennett from the band Tiddas opened proceedings. My girl was so impressed, she brought her EP. Steve was next, and whilst I hadn't had the pleasure to hear/see him before, i think he had won over the crowd in a matter of minutes. I was so impressed, my girl bought me his CD which was way cool. Jewel didn't need to win over anybody, everyone who was there had definitely given their all to get tickets and were solid album fans. The crowds here are way polite and didn't request much, only one non-album request for which jewel replied, how do you guys know that song??? anyway, jewel looked fantastic both nights, opting for the foxy leather look in her final aussie concert. the show from the balcony seemed so surreal. at times i thought i was watching my jewel vids on a big screen. i guess i couldn't believe it was finally happening. the floor seats put you right amongst it. her voice was so powerful and soulful, it was easy at times to get lost in it...to lose all the other senses and float, feeling every moment of perfection. It was an awe inspiring experience, even though the setlists have remained fairly constant throughout the tour, I was there for the performance and am thouroughly grateful for the chance. it was quite hard to spot jewel after the shows, she left early both nights while band members milled around, steve looking for the bar. he was the consumate musician, ever obliging offering to sign my CD and have some photos taken. we managed to spot jewel later at an irish pub, Gilhooley's, who were closing up and couldn't allow for the troupe. They were disappointed, as you would be, but i guess everyone was preparing for St Paddy's day today. So while jewel didn't have time for a chat or autograph, she looked pretty worn out and she did say hello so i figure you have to respect her with much needed privacy. its a shame there wasn't much going on in town, it would have been pretty cool to chat with the guys who were pretty laid back. steve said he's coming back to australia but not to brisbane, which would be a real shame. he left us with a taste and craving for more. as for jewel, i hope we don't have to wait for another 5 years. she certainly delivered and i appreciate every second she gave to us up on that stage for the two nights. to all EDA's, please don't lose sight of why we are on this list. I have been on for the past two years and have read all kinds of posts, some not so flattering. in reality we are here to show our support for jewel, we continue to grow as jewel reaches the hearts of more and more around the world, in each and every one of us, jewel has touched us in a way thats undescribable. to me, she is an inspiration. when all seems lost, she inspires and in a different way to my girl but it still affects me deeply. Thank you Jewel. thanks for the special moments over the last two nights. I will never forget Bodhi, angel down under ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:10:29 -0800 From: Mike Carmona Subject: A Solution to complaints Let's see if this post gets through folks. Mike EDAs, In response to Jay's e-mail, I have to agree with him on the issue of the list being moderated. It is very oppressive and discouraging. Out of 10 posts, you will be lucky to have 2 get in, this is my experience anyhow. I too see nothing but "Bullshit" as Jay puts it, on this list. What's the use in having it up if you can only talk about what they want you to talk about. "Hear Ye, Hear Ye, thou shall only talk of goodness and kindess in Jewel! Ye who fails, shall persih in postless limbo until conformity is taken on!" What the hell.... Well, as the manager has put it, he does it so he is not damned if he doesn't. I on the other hand would prefer to be damned if I don't rather than damned if I do. Solution: If you're tired of your posts not getting through to the list then here's an option for you. Join my Every Other Days Angels mailing list! We are not moderated, we talk about things like Jewel's short leather skirt, her changing, her cheesiness, being loud in bed, rumors, available collectibles, found unauthorized CDs, small venues she's likely to be at where you are likely to meet her in person, rudeness, bitch quotes from magazines, who she was dating and who she is dating now, new fake pictures, where she, her mom, and Steve live, rumored phone numbers, mean Jewel experiences, and just anything your heart desires.You can find the details at my website: http://home.earthlink.net/~mikecarmona/index.html So don't complain about the EDA list that is moderated, just join my unmoderated version. It's that easy. If you don't like it, go back to being fed only one part of Jewel, and let us who want to see her as a whole be known as Every Other Day Angels (EODA). Hey, you gotta break some egg shells to make an omlet! Mike Carmona Jay wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:04:26 -0500 > From: "Jay" > Subject: READ THIS!!!!!!!!! > > Hey guys what's happening. Well I haven't posted to the list in a > really long time, so I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents after reading > months and months of utter BULLSHIT. -Excuse the language- > Everyone else wants to throw in their opinions...well here's mine! > > First of all, this list IS moderated...however I don't understand > what it's being moderated for. I've sent messages to this list couple > > times (example: I was looking for --o)NICOLE(o-- who sent me a > copy of "THE WALDEN BOOK REPOT - with Jewel on the cover - > along with a copy of Angel food with some songs by Jewel.) > So Nicole if you read this..get back at:alcoholic1@bigfoot.com > > I wanted to thank her, but lost her address. But that wasn't sent > to the list...because it was "weeded out" because there would > be too many wasted emails sent to the list if messages like those > were aloud to go through. What kind of ridiculous double standard > is that though? Say no because the list can't be filled up with > wasted space...but you know what....that is ALL I keep getting > in my email box day in day out!! What's that about though?? > > I haven't posted to this list in a hell of a long time because of it, > I've been considering leaving this list all together because of it, > and > I don't read any posts to the list anymore because of all the > childish pety bullshit! I'm starting to think that this list is > filled > with a bunch of kids who have nothing better to do than waste their > time posting and arguing back and forth about things that are so > ridiculous...it's not even funny anymore. The first couple ridiculous > > posts were fine....but come on!! > > I don't need to be on no list to be a fan...I can be as much of a fan > off this list compared to anyone on this list...so please stop taking > these ridiculous views I'm hearing about on how you're the greatest > fan etc. etc. Grow up! > > Also, stop wasting your time...and more importantly mine with all > of the emails on -Oh..Jewel changed...she's not the same > anymore- -Oh..my saviour is different now...how will I ever go on-- > God damn...if I had a nickel for every ridiculous email I've > received!! > > So guys feel free to quit wasting my time anytime you're ready! > > Jay > Pissed Off Angel - Still cute though - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:41:41 -0500 (EST) From: Seth Fulmer Subject: SJC: The recent debate, and a question Hello, I don't usually post but I've been sitting back reading this debate and it seemed a mature debate for a while but recently it appears to me to be unstable. What does it matter whether one is a vet(eran) or a newbie or a veterenarian(sp?) or a foot doctor for crying out loud?! We're all on this list as a community. If anyone wishes to hear only Jewel news such as what Alan and others post about her appearances, then (this is only a suggestion too but) join the jewel-news list. If you want to post excessive NJC and simple thoughts, debates, poetry, surveys, etc...There's a 2nd list out that I know has been mentioned called eda-thoughts. I have been on this list a year and 8 months and the eda-thoughts list almost a year now. On neither list do I consider myself a newbie, veteran...NOR do I care if I am one or not. Have fun on the list, be respectful please to everyone, and I doubt that anyone will seriously have a problem. There may be a thousand and some people on this list(and no, nobody has to give me the exact number because it is immaterial), but I'm in a service fraternity. We have a National Convention every 2 years. This past year was in Minneapolis and at the closing banquet we always all sing our fraternity toast song. If I must say so myself it is a sight to see almost 2,000 brothers(male and female as we're coed) sing this song. If you wish to meet EDAs(which I do reccomend indeed :)), there's always Bearsville, beach cleanups, foodbanks, Living Room Concerts/Tours, and many other events to meet people. As Dennis for sure, and several others have said...you don't need a 'veteran' to set up a gathering. Also, Please don't take any of what I've said as an insult, offense, cause for argument or mass hysteria, and simply take them as what they are...suggestions. I don't claim to be an expert nor do I wish to be. That's all I'll say for now on this issue :o) Ok..onto my question...Ok..I'm going to Springfield, MO to visit some friends. They're college students and therefore have classes. I was wondering if anyone lived in the Springfield area and wanted to meet sometime, maybe chill an hour or two somewhere. I'll be staying until Sunday March 28th in the afternoon. If anyone wants to meet up, please let me know before Monday(3/22) morning as I'm moving out of my apartment then and won't have email access until probably March 29th afterwards...Oh..and let me know in private. Don't post to the list. Thanks a bunch :) Take care everyone and I hope you all have a Fantastic Day! :o) Seth D. Fulmer mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #140 ***************************