From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #134 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, March 17 1999 Volume 04 : Number 134 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- MrBB-THE REAL Europe Tour Dates Revealed!! [ABershaw@aol.com] Jewel list temporarily down & Jeopardy reminder [DuckOfPrey@aol.com] Jewel Interview in S'pore ["Jean" ] playing WWSYS on guitar ["Jill Muno" ] The list, gatherings, etc. [NeOblCar@aol.com] Give the people there due respect! [scott e sykes ] Bitching... [Ronnie J Stratton ] "Newbies" [Ronnie J Stratton ] Re: The Future of The EDAs- PLEASE read this [EDAkate@aol.com] NYC get together thingy [Hapechickn@aol.com] Re: Newbies + Vets = Lots More Vets! :-) [Silverxblu@aol.com] More insight for newer folks [ABershaw@aol.com] Spirit music book? [GitarAngel@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:43:38 -0500 (EST) From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MrBB-THE REAL Europe Tour Dates Revealed!! Hi all you patiently waiting European EDAs, Here is the first additional ACCURATE info you've been waiting for! I think you'll now see why I waited to post these now. The post-UK swing of the tour is considerably different than all the information you've recieved from non-official sources. We still haven't confirmed a few dates & venues are not yet available, but you can start planning accordingly in regards to this schedule which contains all confirmed information including NEW dates in Spain & Italy. There may be a few more dates added at the end of the tour but as of now, nothing else is confirmed. Thank you for your patience. And without further delay, here's Jewel's ACCURATE European Tour schedule. Best wishes, MrBB May 1st, Belfast, N. Ireland May 2nd, Dublin, Rep of Ireland May 4th, Southampton, England May 5th, London, England May 6th, Cambridge, England May 8th, Glasgow, Scotland May 9th, Manchester, England May 10th, Warwick, England May 11th, Bristol, England May 14th, TBA May 15th, Hamburg, Germany May 16th, Berlin, Germany May 24th, Pinkpop Festival, Holland May 26th, Paris, France May 27th, Offenbach, Germany May 28th, Stuttgart, Germany May 29th, Munich, Germany May 31st, Zurich, Switzerland June 1st, Milan, Italy June 2nd, TBA, Italy June 3rd, TBA, Italy June 5th, Balbao, Spain June 6th, Barcelona, Spain ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:23:32 EST From: DuckOfPrey@aol.com Subject: Jewel list temporarily down & Jeopardy reminder Hi folks...... Mike C here from my AOL account. Unfortunately, my service provider has been down for over 7 hours now, meaning I have been unable to access the Jewel list mail to send it on. The buffoons managed to botch up minor upgrade and it looks like they are down until the morning. I had to laugh at their message when I called......... "........we have been upgrading our access to the internet, which is normally a ten minute job...." Anyway, while I am at it I would like to remind you all of fellow list member Barry Hren's appearance on Jeopardy on Wednesday and Thursday. On Thursday's show Alex Trebek brings up the EDAs....in the form of a question, of course ;-) Check your local listings for airtime. Mike :-) P.S. The last time this happened (my service provider taking a nap), they came back online quite shortly after I sent on a similar message from AOL....so hopefully history will repeat itself. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:43:05 +0800 From: "Jean" Subject: Jewel Interview in S'pore Okay, for all Singaporean members (all 8 of you :), Showbuzz has an interview with her tomorrow night. Apparently, Diana Ser went to Sydney, Australia for it, so remember to set your VCRs! Will give details about the interview tomorrow evening :-) Jeanette "I do not regret the things I've done, but those I did not do." (Lucas, Empire Records) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 06:40:02 PST From: "Jill Muno" Subject: playing WWSYS on guitar Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me learn this song. I got the tabs for it off some EDA site, but I don't really get it. Do you just strum the chords or is there a picking pattern, I can't tell. And when do the chords change in the song, I can't tell that either from listening. I think I am tone deaf or something cause I can barely tune my guitar either. Thanks for any help. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:34:44 EST From: NeOblCar@aol.com Subject: The list, gatherings, etc. I've been subscribed the regular jewel list for a week, so I guess that makes me a really new newbie .... Several people, some of who I consider my best friends in the world, have voiced their undying love for newbies. I can attest that any kind, open, honest newbies are always welcome. Believe me I don't love Dennis Harris anymore than I love Tom Miles, John Hickey or any of the dozens of other newbies I have met after him. (Of course, using Dennis as my example was VERY deliberate, but that's another story.) Besides newbies are usually easy targets in laser tag! Next important point, if the only Mike you know is "list owner/moderator Mike" then you are selling yourself short. Mike is one of the most wonderful persons in the world to know and meet. If there is one little tenet of wisdom I could express it would be that before you complain/post to anyone about Mike or the list, talk openly to him first. There has never been a moment in the past Mike has not been able to explain to me reasonably all sides involved (and in every case I have felt like the heel for questioning his decision). Finally, I agree with everyone who has said gatherings make the group ... but things have slowed down. I certainly don't mind hosting gatherings, but at some point last spring I didn't want to give the impression that Tammy and I were the EDA gathering gods, or more appropriately "hogs". I also felt bad because I (we) couldn't attend a lot of events hosted by people that make very complicated arrangments to attend ours. Maybe others started to feel the same way and that's why gatherings slowed down. But that is going to change! The summer tour will certainly bring a lot of us together again (I mean regardless of age, you are going to shows right?) and there will be plenty of other activites! I guess I am trying to say if you give up on the list now you're going to miss it, because this is going to be the best summer since '96 ! ! ! ! ! ! -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:45:34 -0800 From: scott e sykes Subject: Give the people there due respect! For my whole life, i have been taught a valuable lesson. Respect your elders, they are wiser, smarter, and have a lot more to say! I have known a few veterans on this list to be nothing less than honest, caring, and loving people who respect anyone and everyone on this list! This list has been up for several years now and with a great list comes great people! PLEASE, stop being disrepectful to the loved people we call vets. They wouldn't do the same to you! Scott S. Big Sexy Angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:54:18 -0600 From: Ronnie J Stratton Subject: Bitching... Hey I'm new, I just subscribed today. But isn't this entire concept of the bulletin board that Jewel gives us hope and love and joy in our time of need, not fighting and bitching?!? Not alot of people are griping, but what's up with complaining about the "vets' or "newcomers"? There are a lot of really smart and cool people on here and I'm not saying to be quiet because it's your freedom of speech. We all should just calm down about the newcomers, because this is a community and everyone should be welcome. Wouldn't Jewel feel the same? -RJ P.S. Also, No one's writing on the boards right now so e-mail me! I want to get to know as many people as possible! -K-? LIKE WRITE RIGHT NOW!!!!!! -RJ 0: ) <---- an angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:14:01 -0600 From: Ronnie J Stratton Subject: "Newbies" HEY EDAS! I'm really new and so I guess I fit under the catogory of "newbies". Now sit back and think about that; isn't that a little critical and stereotypical? Us "newbies" love Jewel just as much as the vets. The vets are acting very immature and are being very rude. Ya'll aren't welcoming us. I mean, I don't know about other "newbies" but I feel a little unwanted, like my opinion doesn't count because if how long I've been on this board. Not all vets are acting immature, don't get me wrong, you know who you are. And the vets are putting across the message that the "newbies" aren't worthy of this board because of how long we've been here. Well, aren't we a G-R-O-W-I-N-G C-O-M-M-U-N-I-T-Y? Don't we need to ADD to this to make more people aware of JEWEL?!? I mean, we're just bitching about ourselves. Let's NOT bitch. I don't know about other "newbies", but I'm having second thoughts. - -RJ P.S.- All ya'll newbies out there, write me! And ANYONE, write me. I want to know if I'm alone or not. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:20:56 EST From: EDAkate@aol.com Subject: Re: The Future of The EDAs- PLEASE read this hi all yall, this is kaite the introspective angel who paints watercolored roses (who groped steve poltz, mooned patty scoboria, waded in the creek and flashed people at Bearsville98) REMEMBER ME?!?~ man that was a long introduction, i guess i'm kinda notorious to those of you who know me (and how could you forget ME?!) anyways... back to the point... in regards to MrBB's letter 'bout the future of the EDAs, i have come to a very simple conclusion to regaining the community we usedta have (back in the good ol' days... remember like, '97?) teehee, anyways back to the point again... i have ADD, don't blame me, blame my psychologist... the very simple answer to this problem is as follows: pay attention... DEATH TO ALL NEWBIES!!!! see? isn't that simple?! YAY! now jool fans, you must understand... ****THIS IS A JOKE**** in case that you have no sense of humor, feel free to email me and discuss it with me or whatever (flame...EEK! am i allowed to say flame?) in which case do not send it to this address, send it to Rugburnfan@aol.com where all emails received are automatically traced to their originators and they are in turn infected with the Trojan Horse Virus... ****ONCE AGAIN A JOKE**** but do send it to Rugburnfan@aol.com because i don't get a lot of mail on that address and i am more likely to read it.. i would love to hear your feedback =) please understand that i am a rugburn fan, and therefore have a very sick sense of humor, enjoy eating hotdogs on buttered up buns, drinking heavily and smoking pot, as a matter of fact i am high as i type... ****JOKE AGAIN, IM STRAIGHTEDGE**** but that doesn't mean that i don't like drunken people and their music... ie THE RUGBURNS, Buddy Blue, practically all rock stars... i like ellipses, it gives me a feeling that you are hanging on my every word.... see? LOL if in fact you read this far into the letter, are of the male persuasion and have been through puberty in the last, oh say 20 or 30 years... email me, ill give you my number, we'll get together sometime... **ALSO A JOKE, kinda** hehe anyone know if Ted Tittle has email? he's so cool.. =) buhbye all my lovely EDAs~ (and happy birthday to MrBB on the 28th) ^i^ kaite ^i^ the longwinded introspective angel who paints watercolored roses (who groped steve poltz, mooned patty scoboria, waded in the creek and flashed people at Bearsville98) In a message dated 3/12/99 5:07:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, ABershaw@aol.com writes: << As with many here, I have a vision for this community & I think that vision still exists here amongst many others. Its a simple vision that The EDAs would continue to intelligently discuss Jewel's work, but in the process, offer each other words of friendship, lots of laughs & hopefully continue to be a force for positive change. That simple really >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:41:52 EST From: Hapechickn@aol.com Subject: NYC get together thingy Hi everyone! I'm just wondering if there are any other EDAs who live in New York who would want to get together for a day and do something. If anyone has any ideas on this email me. luv laurah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:37:00 EST From: Silverxblu@aol.com Subject: Re: Newbies + Vets = Lots More Vets! :-) Regarding Dennis Harris' post... That made so much sense. That's all I've got to say. I joined the list... Oh... Around WWSYS time. I'm not a newbie (Unless you count the fact that I haven't met certain people yet...) When I was a newbie, I had all kinds of "silly" newbie questions (i.e. "Does Jewel smoke?" "What the @#$%$# is Angelfood?") :-) Well, I've been around for awhile... After I got to know the ropes somewhat, I adopted some *fresh* newbies and tried to answer their questions to the best of my ability... I'm proud to be and EDA... It's really so much more than just a list. Although I unsubscribed once, due to the expansion of the list, I soon started to miss the happy times and gladness and togetherness and informativeness and helpfulness of the list... How else could I keep track of television appearances and video releases and... and... Yeah. And I remembered how nice it was... 'cause it was indeed very nice. And it still is, if you look beneath all the other stuff. You guys are rockin'. I'm definitely sticking around. Maybe someday I'll get to meet some of you... :-) (Subtle Hint: COME TO STINKY FLORIDA! I can't drive yet!) *niina* - -a random angel- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:37:16 EST From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: More insight for newer folks Hi again, In a message dated 3/15/99 10:51:23 PM, shallowend@asan.com writes: <> This is a major factor why The Jewel list is different than most other mailing lists out there & it's likely one of the factors that new subscribers understand the least. Many of the people here have personally met each other & found it to be an incredible experience. THAT's what Jewelstock was all about. That's what the LRT's (Living Room Tours) are all about. That's partially what the EDAF is about. Jewel & the other great LRT musicians are all just catalysts (& very willing participants) in some of these events. But they were NOT the reason the events became legendary. And that's what many of these old timers are talking about that's missing nowadays. It's not about "being superior fans", "anti-new people" or Jewel. The EDAFoundation will help you find ways to get involved in list activities geared toward helping others this year, but all that aside, you can easily find reasons to get together & just have a good time. No other purpose needed, like the Bearsville Reunions each year. Anyone can do these things almost anywhere with a little work & effort. The people here with experience doing it would be happy to help you with questions or advice, I'm sure. As the list grows, it even becomes easier to do this successfully as more people are potentially in your area. There are MANY unforgettable characters on this list & it's amazing what you learn when you meet other EDAs for real! Everybody's different from what you thought & usually MUCH more fun to be around than you ever expected! I'm not kidding. For instance, I'm nothing like you probably think I am in person. Because of my efforts to keep y'all informed & be as clear as possible, I get stuck being serious all the time on list. But in reality, as those who've met me know, I rarely stop laughing & I'm one ridiculously happy person. On this list I'm as considerate as possible when choosing my words, but in person I uncontrollably swear in almost every sentence! (Right, Mike?) That's the reality. (I left home at 15, lived with biker gang friends during High School, then did road work with bands, so what did you expect?!) I know really sick jokes, have lots of insane stories & remember when Art Fleming was the host of Jeopardy! I love meeting new & old EDAs at shows & having them join us at our annual Cape Cod summer bash. My point in this ramble is that to make a "real connection" with people you have to make some effort to do so whether it's here on the list or elsewhere. I know many people are very concerned with meeting Jewel, getting autographs, etc. But let me tell ya in all honesty, standing in a crowd of people all shoving paper, CDs & pens at Jewel is NOTHING compared to meeting other EDAs. And thankfully the latter is so much easier to do! These get-togethers many of you newer folks keep hearing about & meeting up with other EDAs in your area at shows is well worth your time & effort. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:04:59 EST From: GitarAngel@aol.com Subject: Spirit music book? I may be mistaken, but i thought i heard someone(Mr. BB?) say that the music books for Spirit and POY would be sold at jeweljk. I went to the jewel store, but found only the POY lyric book. Anyone? Thanx Jackie ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #134 ***************************