From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #129 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, March 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 129 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jewel/Steve pix [DKookyBaka@aol.com] Re: EDAs are EDAs -- vets are animal doctors [BenderGrrl@aol.com] Just a quick note...... [AESTHETE99@aol.com] Re: Let's build our future! ["The Quiet Angel" ] Re: Future of the list [KNicky3116@aol.com] Jewel on Spanish TV [Harte Adrian ] The Free jewel Banner [STAC5984@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:36:47 EST From: DKookyBaka@aol.com Subject: Jewel/Steve pix Hi people. I know a lot you in Australia have been to many Jewel concerts and gotten many pictures of both Steve and Jewel. Well.... if you were able to get pictures of either Steve and/or Jewel, please e-mail. I'm willing to pay or trade some good stuff for some pictures. Thanks, bye. Lesley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:12:06 EST From: BenderGrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: EDAs are EDAs -- vets are animal doctors I just wanted to point out really briefly that sure the play on words and actions is fine and all but "vets" in this case aren't "animal doctors" it's short for "veterans" and i'm sure you knew that but the word vets being thrown around is good because with that word comes the remembrance that times were different and now what made the list what it was is hidden under many other people that join the list just for news. As Tammy said, why not just join the jewel news list? A list that was set up just for that? I'm sure we'd achieve some sort of re-kindling of old EDA friendship flames you know? Just my buck and a half - -Linda the Lovable ANgel on a snow day ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:01:28 EST From: AESTHETE99@aol.com Subject: Just a quick note...... Hey all, It's been nice to read some posts from old familiar names over the past couple of days as well as hearing about Jewel and Steve turning on an entire continent to the fun the rest of us have been privy to for so long. In a way, hearing about these shows in Australia reminds me a lot of the excitement I felt several years ago. Thanks guys and keep posting. Also, I just read Greg Dunn's post and I have to agree that more gatherings can only be good. I've only made it to one EDA gathering in the last year (Alan's last LRT) and I could definately use a few more. Unfortunately I am not in a position to hold a gathering right now, although Mark (Crunch) and I have tossed about the idea of renting some beach house or something before. So maybe all this will re-motivate me. BTW, the last time I actually saw Greg Dunn was at Lizstock wearing only his tighty-whities into the wee hours of the morning. So, if nothing else, the chance to see him in all his semi-naked glory again will force me to attend the next gathering. And if I remember correctly, Igor was there that night too. Now if HE resurfaces on this list, not only would I be shocked, but we will have come full circle in some bizarre/year 2000/apocalyptic kind of way. And besides, all-in-all, I do miss him. Okay, I'm rambling now......... Jon Reade ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:16:40 -0500 From: "The Quiet Angel" Subject: Re: Let's build our future! From: Sue Harrison >Maybe we (the New Angels) can find a common ground with the Vet Angels. >We should try organizing some sort of get-together. >I think it would be great to have some sort of annual EDA induction >ceremony!! >Not only would it make the New Angels feel accepted.....it would bring >lots of EDA's together. We could have a blast! >It would be so much fun. >Think about it.....Vets and New Angels...... >Watcha's think??? >I'd be really happy to get involved in some sort of activity with fellow >EDA's. >I'm sure we'd all get a lot out of it. Sue took the words right out of my mouth. Ever since Alan's post, I've been searching for an event that we EDA's could do together. Gatherings, they were great, what happened? I think gatherings were one of the reasons why we were so close. We were having one almost every month (sometimes even more than that) when I joined. Now there's only Bearsville, EDAF activities, --*whispers* Beach Clean up April 24-- and JewelTV. Sorry to cut this so short, but I have kids (cousins' not mine) to pick up from school. I'll expand more on this when I return home next week. But you all can continue discussing from here. I'll keep searching for something to do... do we really need a reason though? The Quiet Angel Abel rosarioa@cuny.campuscwix.net Quiet_Abel@hotmail.com shhhangel@email.com ICQ# 1313131 IM: ShhhAngel "I'm a sensitive man of the 90's sweetheart, who cares for your emotional being an awful lot" --Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:17:20 PST From: "The Sexi One" Subject: i found this really kickin jewel book hey sexi edas, i was up in borders yesterday and of coarse as always browsing the music section, and i found this really chessy info book on jewel. with chapter titles like "an angel standing by" and "no more foolish games" it's a real winner! actually it's really informative and has really awsome pics in it. like everyother page is a full color pic. and the book is n't the normal size kind of book. it's rather large. it was 14.99 or somthing like that. and it was by Mark Bego. it even has my favorite jewel story. .. the one abotu the first time she incountered red pubic hair. hehe. also any eda's who live around the park city area in pa . in the sam goody there i found the jewel hands singel . both of them. i got the last on the first on. but there was some others laft. and there was also a moring song single there to. i made my dady drive me all the was from mertztown to get it. but i am very happy! =) i love ya all! Taryn the off the wall angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:05:27 PST From: "Rebecca Smith" Subject: Re: The Future of the EDAs; Gatherings! Hello to all, After getting back online after the weekend and reading all the posts about the evolution of this list, I had several thoughts. I agree with lots of your thoughts, and even the ones I don't totally agree with I can understand. I joined the list a couple of months after Jewelstock. I loved what I found! After I posted my inital "Hi, I'm a newbie, please help me" post, I received lots o' letters from other EDAs who were warm, welcoming, and happy to have another person aboard. I used to post pretty frequently (perhaps too frequently), and like Liz, looked to the list for advice, humour, etc. I used to look forward so much to checking my email and immersing myself for a while in this wonderful community, this new family I had become a part of. After some changes in my life and a big move, I got back on the list as soon as I could, and it had changed. It had grown tremedously and eventually became moderated. When I was first told about the moderation, my reaction was neutral; I could see the positive in it, but wondered how it might affect the close, family-like environment I had known and loved. I was very happy to hear that Mike had taken on this responsibility, as he is a wonderful person and I could think of noone better to handle this list (although I did ponder, as have I and many others since, what precise type of insanity would prompt a person to take on such a task). :) However, I have found that this list isn't quite as warm and interesting as it used to be; it seems more sterile. Of course this has a lot to do with the size of the list now; when there are more people at a party, it's not as easy to get to know everyone. I do think that the moderation may have played a part in this as well, but then we all saw what happened the last time it was un-moderated for a couple of days; Yikes! But who knows; maybe it would have settled down after the thrill was over. Sort of like nudity; at first it's a big thrill, kinda taboo and all that, but for people who live in nudist parks, it's no big deal (I hope that made sense). I'm not really sure what the answer is, but those are my thoughts. Another line of thought I have is about how we can work toward fixing it, toward getting back to the closeness the list used to have. Things might not ever be exactly as they used to, but there's no universal law saying that we can't try to get to know one another better and try to form a community like we used to have. The future of the list is up to its members. I didn't get to attend an EDA gathering until last summer, when I went to Bearsville '98. I drove over 1,000 miles to attend (from North Carolina to New York), and it was definitely worth it! It was so much fun, and it was wonderful to finally get to meet these great people with whom I had corresponded for so long. Although I was a newcomer in person, I was welcomed with open arms, as were all the other newcomers, no matter how long they had been on the list. I would strongly suggest to anyone who wants to reclaim the spirit of the "old days", or who wishes the list was more close-knit like it used to be: attend EDA gatherings! Or even make your own, if there aren't any near you and you have the time and energy to put into pulling one off. Sure, it's a lot of work, but if people work together, I'm sure the end result would be worth it. As a fellow EDA and good friend mentioned, it seems strange that a few dozen EDAs showed up for Bearsville last year, yet a few *hundred* EDAs miraculously appeared in the Tri-State Area when MTV needed EDAs to put on television with Jewel. So maybe it's not just Jewel that's changed, hm? Maybe we really *are* "the difference that makes a difference". Food for thought, I think. :) I, for one, will most definitely be driving up from North Carolina again this year to go to the Bearsville reunion (and I'm making it a full week this year!), and anyone interested in hitching a ride from the south is encouraged to contact me. Gatherings are where a majority of list folklore originates, and where most of the inside jokes thrive (and ones from the past are explained in full). Gatherings are an equalizer; everyone is embraced at the same level. "List vets" don't get a special place around the campfire, and their beer gets stolen just like everyone else's (right Dennis?). :) Friendships made on the list are cemented even more, and new friends are to be made as well. Call me the "EDA Gathering Cheerleader". That's all I have to say about that. In closing, please feel free to write back, no matter how new (or old) :) you may be; it's nice to hear from people every once in a while so I know that the list hasn't turned into a bunch of hair-extension obsessed zombies. :) Hugs all 'round, Rebecca Blessed Be :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:26:28 -0800 From: "Arthur, Lori" Subject: Re: Future of the list I'm finally caught up on my emails, so here are my two cents. OK, it's really three cents. I'm also a member of a Sarah McLachlan list known as Fumblers. That list is wholly unmoderated and although sometimes it gets on my nerves, in the end I like it that way. We have a system set up where you use a three letter code to denote what your message is about: BST = Well, you know. Just ramblings. NSC = No Sarah Content (about other artists, etc) And so forth. That way, if you aren't interested in the topic, you don't have to open the email or read that section of the digest. We've had lots of enlightening discussions and some that make no sense whatsoever. It's a heck of a lot of fun and we don't always discuss Sarah. Perhaps that's what we need here. Those who only want to hear about Jewel-relevant things such as concert dates, updates to the websites, etc can subscribe to the Jewel-News version of the list. And those who would like to try out being unmoderated, we'll stick to the normal and digest forms of the list. Of course there must be rules and I like Alan's thoughts on that (although I don't have a copy of his email on hand). Common courtesy is what it comes down to. Treat others with the same respect that you'd like from them. We're all Jewel fans and we all have valid opinions. I for one did not know about the EDA thoughts list. But I do feel a little restricted as to what I can post to the list and what I can't. And I think that is what some people miss. There is a sense of community on my Sarah list that is somewhat lacking on the Jewel list. Then again, maybe I should just get onto the thoughts list and keep my whiny mouth shut. After all, with increased posting means more and more emails in my overcrowded inbox. :-) Lori Jupiter's Angel email: larthur@fullerton.edu __________________________________ Why was there nothing it refused? No misery, no regret, no hateful picture to rotten to accept? Like a greedy child it snatched up everything. Just once, could it say, No thank you? I just ate and can't hold another bite? --Toni Morrison, Beloved ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:26:45 EST From: KNicky3116@aol.com Subject: Re: Future of the list In a message dated 3/15/99 3:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, larthur@Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU writes: << And so forth. That way, if you aren't interested in the topic, you don't have to open the email or read that section of the digest. We've had lots of enlightening discussions and some that make no sense whatsoever. It's a heck of a lot of fun and we don't always discuss Sarah. Perhaps that's what we need here >> I am also a Fumbler, and I totally agree with Lori. Although the high amount of posts can be agrivating at times, it is better in general. If I don't have time to read the off-topic or non-Sarah posts, then I just delete the ones with the specific heading. As much as I love this list, and as much as I know Mike is working really hard, I think that the moderation is too strict. Many times I don't bother posting because I figure, "hey, it's not gonna go through anyway"...whether it has to do with Jewel or not. I just think it would work out better if people could just post about what's on their minds, and just use common sense and post within reason. It may be crazy at first, but we'd all learn to settle down right? :) I know everybody is saying pretty much the same thing, but all I know is that we're all, for the most part, great people and we could expand so much with this list. Do I make sense? Probably not, but I had to say something. - -Nicole angel on horseback ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:37:54 +0100 From: Harte Adrian Subject: Jewel on Spanish TV Dia daoibh (Hi), Just time for a bi-monthly delurking. I was happily listening to some recently acquired angelfood on Saturday and channel-surfing seeking to avoid teletext soccer score updates - just more bad news - when I came across the 'Musica' show on Spanish TV channel TVE, and just as I switched over it started showing Jewel in studio. It was the 'Hands' perforamnce recorded in Spain I think last month - I remember it was mentioned at the time. Anyway, it was an excellent version, with Jewel looking really at ease - much more so than on French TV DSL appearance. And for you guys that want to know - and gals too, she looked better than I have ever seen her - really natural with straight hair all dressed in black . pants and top. And at the end of the song she changed from singing 'God's hands' to 'affections of God' (might have been 'reflections'). And she finished off with a very cute Gracias. Even better Jewel news is that, 'Hands' has now appeared on the video jukebox in my local bar. I tried playing it nine times when I discovered it, but it obviously had an anti-sad obsessive fan device fitted, so I only got one. As regards bg debate on future of list. I am a relative newbie so can only imagine what 'old' list was like. But for foreign EDA's, the list is a godsend - the news is great and it is great to hear US perspectives and opinions, and Aussie tour reviews. And I think it's a great community, so don't sell yourselves short. I'm going Stateside in July for a few Jewel dates, and I can't wait to meet fellow EDA'S (especially one in particular). So that's my tuppence worth Best wishes to all for a happy Lá Fhéile Phadraig, Slán agus beannacht, adrian the irish eda in exile PS Another great thing about the list is that you can cheekily ask if any UK EDA has had time to transcribe, photocopy or scan a copy of the Mail on Sunday article. You don't get the magazine with it in Switzerland - anyone willing to mail it to me - please - Chris? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:48:25 EST From: STAC5984@aol.com Subject: The Free jewel Banner Hey, I recieved that banner today we were supposed to get for entering the Atlantic contest a while back. It's really nice! Be on the lookout at your mailboxes :) Kevin <>< ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #129 ***************************