From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V4 #7 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, January 5 1999 Volume 04 : Number 007 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- A new fun Jewel poll! :-) ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] NJC: Spiderboy #3 now available! [Crash Boy ] Re: "do you" question [ABershaw@aol.com] How Jewel HAS changed which shows that she hasn't changed at all. [Erik J] NJC: San Diego EDAs and musicial EDAs [DmBear978@aol.com] The Greatest days are ahead of us... [lennon25@juno.com (S C R)] Re: "do you" question [Nathaniel.H.Morgan@Dartmouth.EDU (Nathaniel H. Mo] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:15:08 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: A new fun Jewel poll! :-) How many of you EDA's would like to see Jewel just do one (or at least one) TV performance with no make-up on, her hair straight and not styled, just her playing solo, singing a non-Spirit song, like maybe Moon Over Austin for example? Or, would you rather her to keep doing as she's been? This is just a poll, like the one's we've held here on the list over the past year or so, so please send all responses to me privately so the list won't be congested with unwanted letters. Thanks, Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:35:21 -0500 From: Crash Boy Subject: NJC: Spiderboy #3 now available! Hi everyone! What's up? I am pleased to announce that the third issue of Spiderboy: The Steve Poltz Fan Newsletter is now available. In this issue, we have Steve Poltz news and tour dates; articles on the Steve's VH1 special; a "Blast from the Past" story about the Rugburns in New York City and at the Jersey shore; and Gregory Page featured in this issue's "Artist Spotlight". We also have a contest to win a signed copy of "Conversations Over a Cerveza"! For ordering info, please send e-mail to: SpiderboySP@hotmail.com A preview of the third issue will soon be available on: http://home1.gte.net/ericj1/rugburns/spiderboy.html Right now, previews of the first and second issues are still there, as is ordering info for those of you who want it right away. :) The page is put together by Eric Jones, who also runs the Steve Poltz "Drunk Like Me" website at: http://home1.gte.net/ericj1/rugburns/index.html Response to the first two issues has been great, and we're really excited about this issue and the issues to come. All of us at Spiderboy thank you in advance and hope you enjoy it. The Spiderboy Staff - ------------------- Eric Montas Amy Neufeld William D. Prystauk Jim Krayer Eric Jones Alan Poizner Carrie Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:51:16 EST From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: Re: "do you" question In a message dated 1/4/99 6:03:00 PM, smegally@post.cis.smu.edu writes: << i was sitting down to listen to a friend's new copy (of Spirit) , and when "do you" came on, i was shocked to hear a completely different version than the one that i have on my older copy. My (older) version is a lot more instrumental, with a full intro and music under jewel's voice throughout the whole song. i would suspect that most of you guys have this version, because most of you got it early like i did. my friend's new version was far more a cappella in places. what's up? mike? mr. bb?>> Hmmm. I listened to my 1st run pressing & a recently purchased store bought one & the mixes on "Do You" sound identical to me. You sure you're not having audio hallucinations, Sam? If a new mix was substituted since the first run, its news to me. Can a few people who bought the album very recently please email me your description of the mix on "Do You"? As in do you have accapella parts (no instruments) on parts of the song as Sam described? Do some of you have no instrumental intro before the singing begins? Sorry I can't answer you Sam. My copies only fit the description of your "first" copy, so I have no comparison. These things do happen occasionally but in this case, not that I'm aware of. If I can verify that there are indeed two released mixes, I'll attempt to find out more & if theres a way to differentiate the two. All the best, MrBB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:54:32 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Johnson Subject: How Jewel HAS changed which shows that she hasn't changed at all. Taking just a few excerpts from a few emails, I want to discuss how Jewel has changed and why. (IMO) First, I am a philosopher and I have done a great deal of thought to how my ideas and myself as a person will be able to change the world on a grand scale, that's why I think I can know, for those of you who would question. >trying to understand this duality from a feminist >point of view is something I will try to tackle next. This statement claims that philosophical view points are different between men and women. If something is true, then it is true from whatever viewpoint you take a look at it from. The earth turned on it's axis today, that is true no matter how you look at it, whether you agree or not. Which leads in to the next quote: >It's kinda like Jewel got breast implants. There's >something masochistic and self-hatred based about this >whole thing that bothers me, like the song Enter from >the East. I think she is conforming without even >knowing it. I went through a phase of thought like this once. But then I realized that being a non-conformist and doing everything that wasn't conforming, was merely conforming to another type of conformism. Anyone remember the song alterna-girl? Realizing this actually left my conceptions spinning for a while. Then I realized that conforming itself wasn't the bad thing. It was both whether you are conscious of why you are conforming and also what you are conforming to. The clincher is that many of the things that are commonly conformed to are conformed to because they are positive things such as bathing, not killing one another, etc. So in not conforming you will at times do more damage than in conforming. So from this point you no longer look at conformism vs. non-conformism. You look to what is good and does good, in short what is right. Now if Jewel really is living thoughtfully about her life and she does want to reach the most people with her thoughtful messages as she can, she will do what she must to reach that greater goal. She wont destroy herself in the process, but she realizes the true unimportance of appearance, while also realizing the importance that others place in it. So, Jewel is being a realist and playing their game by dressing up in order to attain the higher good of getting her message out to a broader spectrum so that more people can learn what she has learned and apply it to their own lives. This so that maybe they can find their own happiness in life- and save their own souls (maybe). This relates to this objection: >I COULD STILL FIND BEAUTY IN THE LITTLE THINGS and >hope to be better tomorrow. I cannot relate to >freedom anthems. I cannot relate to massive white >noise music like I can to your very own fingers >playing the guitar. Thinking about a higher good of the world, Jewel likely started out wanting to touch every heart directly and give people hope directly, but she probably realized that once her popularity dies out and she fades away that the good she did will die as well. So, instead she has begun, as her more abstract Spirit shows, an attempt to show people how to create hope by themselves and how to make their own hearts warm, instead of depending on someone else. People just have to realize they have to just do something rather than expect someone else to do it for them. This theme shows up in WWSYS too, but the cute, lovey-dovey stuff there tended to cover up the thoughtful stuff a bit more. Spirit is less this way and therefore more effective in its purpose of teaching. This isn't where it stops though because Jewel most likely also realized that even with this manner of operation that once the people die that have learned from her music and once her music is obsolete that the good will die out. So... she has attempted to teach us all to help spread the knowledge and understanding. This by asking us to do good deeds for her birthday present instead of buying her a gift, by establishing HGH, and all the myriad of other appeals to helping the world that she has made. She also wants to help others to pass on the knowledge in the same way that she has so that it can multiply upon the world. Here's a quote from Nedra off of the HGH page on www.jeweljk.com that shows this intention: >In the spirit of giving back to the global >community which provides us with >such abundance, we choose to >advocate values and principles that >improve the human condition and foster >the positive spiritual evolution of human >awareness and action. The last line- "foster... the evolution;" HGH was established to have lasting effects by causing an evolution of humankind, not just a short-term alleviation of pain, instead, the eradication of pain and hurt by replacing them with love so that it lasts. >Jewel's contemporaries who are the brainless women >just looking for a man, in lines like: These girls >today with nothing to say No more pig tails and pony >rides They're sophisticated, they drink lattes And >have their eyes on a bigger prize Here Jewel really >does get angry if just for a moment, and it is the >best group of lines on the album, they have passion >and vibrance and life. It isn't the cheesy, sappy, >easily-criticized stuff of If I could tell everybody >one thing it'd be that we're all ok. Does she see the >hypocrisy of a statement like that when contrasted >with such a complex and useful metaphor by where she >obviously does not think quite so highly of >"everybody"? The first step in improving life is knowing yourself, but many people are blocked from this because when they begin to look honestly at themselves, they are embarrassed at what they see. To see your own evils is painful, but realizing that it is okay that we all have evils in our life and that it's not something to concern us, but rather something we ought to do something about, is the first step along the road to a thoughtful and benevolent life. So, when Jewel says "If I could tell the world just one thing," the implicature is that by her telling them that thing, they would also understand it and be able to apply it to themselves. Then "it'd be we're all okay," is pointing out the above fact that we all have ugly parts to us and that we shouldn't be afraid of them, but rather accept that they are there and then be able to really do something about them. In other words, it's okay that they are there, learn what they are and why they are there. As for the line about sophisticated women, it to me that Jewel isn't so much trying to be negative and attack those women as much as she is trying to help people be self-aware of what they are and what they are doing. The implicature is that those women are people that are living only a part of their person-hood in the pursuit of the "bigger" (said sarcastically) prize. That is, they are disabling their person-hoods by living only part of it, and making those sacrifices for something that really isn't important and is definitely not worth the sacrifice. So with all that said, I am standing behind what I said before. I think that this shows that while yes, some things about Jewel have indeed changed that those changes were born of a deeper and more important purpose of Jewel's that doesn't change. Erik The idealistic angel I'm trying to start a web page of Jewel philosophy and would like to have suggestions on categories that should be discussed. Please check out my web site and say what you think should be added or dropped. For those of you who were wondering what my web address was after forgetting to include it in my last post, here it is: http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/9011/jewel/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:36:57 EST From: DmBear978@aol.com Subject: NJC: San Diego EDAs and musicial EDAs Greetings Y'all! I might be moving down to SD(actually Carlsbad) in the next 6 months, I need to talk to a person or two about somethings. By the time I get a response, I'll remember what. Also, I'll be getting back into transcribing songs off of "Spirit". I've heard of a guitar book already out, but the store I work at hasn't gotten a hold of it yet. NAMM show here I come! Woo-Hoo! GpA- Guitar playin Angel Alex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:17:00 EST From: lennon25@juno.com (S C R) Subject: The Greatest days are ahead of us... - ---I am not interested in the past. I am interested in the future, for that is where I expect to spend the rest of my life.--- I'm not a huge fan of Jewel, but I am a fan. I have both her albums and love them to death! I'm troubled by all this crying about how Jewel has changed herself. The only way to progress as a musician is to change. You get bored sitting playing an acoustic guitar all the time. She still writes all her songs. I mean just because she isn't always playing her guitar on stage we start getting upset about it all. She's moving on. Forgetting about the past and moving on to an unknown future. She has few limits and I'm sure that excites her. That would excite me. If she continues to go in the direction she's going then go for it Girl! Whatever makes her happy! And we should be happy for her. I'm excited to see what new frontiers she is going to explore. That was my opinion thrown out into the wind...Maybe someone will catch it and write back? Be safe! Wise Angel named "Observer" - ---Kindness is the language that the deaf can hear and the blind can see.--- ------------------------------ Date: 04 Jan 99 22:06:48 EST From: Nathaniel.H.Morgan@Dartmouth.EDU (Nathaniel H. Morgan) Subject: Re: "do you" question - --- smegally@post.cis.smu.edu wrote: i was sitting down to listen to a friend's new copy (of Spirit) , and when "do you" came on, i was shocked to hear a completely different version than the one that i have on my older copy. My (older) version is a lot more instrumental, with a full intro and music under jewel's voice throughout the whole song. i would suspect that most of you guys have this version, because most of you got it early like i did. my friend's new version was far more a cappella in places. what's up? mike? mr. bb? - --- end of quote --- My only guess is that one of your speakers may be dead, so you're only getting the channel w/ her voice and not the one w/ the instruments. I'm guessing, though, I haven't paid much attention to which speakers are carrying each part. Whoa.....my first post in a while - feels kinda wierd..... - -Nathaniel ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V4 #7 *************************